teachers have a very high turnover rate and a former teacher venneman
Richard Ingersoll wanted to do a study or survey I should say to figure out all
the different reasons why teachers decide that they want to quit their jobs
now he is now a a PhD in sociology
and he says that he loved teaching but he just couldn't take it anymore he says
that it
there was a lack of respect for teachers got
and he felt like he needed to do something that was more for filling
something where he had more control and more
intellectual input which is ironic because as a teacher you should have
a great deal of intellectual input but before we get to its findings are
look at this number its kind incredible anywhere between forty and fifty percent
of teachers will leave the classroom within their first five years
turnover in teaching is about 4 percent higher than other professions
and by the way I a significant amount amount of teachers actually quit
within the first year up their careers so it kind of brings up this really big
problem because
our education system right now as you guys know was failing and one thing that
people constantly blame it for
is the teachers the teachers are doing enough they need to work harder it's
because you know their 10 year it's because they have the unions backing
them up
they're just lazy but when you really look into how little they make
and how little respect they get you kinda start to see that maybe the
teachers
are not the real problem behind are failing education system there's no I i
mean
II soo much became mostly service here
they're not they never work exile out the and I don't think even though I
don't think even the conservative state that the teachers are they think the
teachers unions are
right so I don't they get unit yet made up for teach you know I know I don't
know it but it's not the rates
in other words I don't think their issues with the rank and file to other
organized in the demands they make and and and the fact that they don't
that there is not individual accountability for teachers
because they're so protected by unions now at let's I'm
I'm with you sauna understand I think they're their are you giving too much
credit
I think that they don't like it because they're organized them because they
organize their like up there well i thought id well they don't like it yeah
but I think that it
especially with teachers and listen I don't like so many unions maybe some
other unions have gone too far but they want to replicate the unions and her was
a way that did
disparaging way not just about the unions that they talk about public
school teachers
public education public education and they got what they wanted to privatize
it right there to hide behind I'll talk about the administrators and the
teachers union yeah
everything but except the teachers are the main people you're talking about
when you talk about
public it but it's also you know that the this is a
probably a well I'd actually didn't read this article is really well written
your thoughtful article but it says why don't you just quit you could answer in
a second it's because the this they're starting salary for between thirty and
forty thousand dollars a year
we have been enough to live and pay back the student loans that they have
forgetting to become teachers in the first yes I okay so you brought up a
really great points and you're right you don't have to read article because
that's exactly the situation
it turns out that and you guys probably already know this the starting salary
for teacher in the US is about 35,000 672 don't think 30-40 wasn't quite right
now
has rather 536 yeah a reminder
I and about 40 percent of teachers who pursue undergraduate degrees in teaching
never even
entered the classroom at all and I think part of the reason for that is because
you know the starting salary is a deterrent I mean you're taking out these
loans to get the education and as you guys know at this point if you go to a
prestigious university
you could easily take out more than a hundred thousand dollars in student loan
debt
and then what you're gonna go work for thirty five thousand dollars how are you
gonna make enough money to thirty-five hundred years to pay back your loan
it would be impossible to pay off that student loan debt %uh
but I think the lack of respect is we're really gets under
their skin because you know you have administrators which by the way a lot of
teachers who don't want to remain teachers they want to work their way up
to an administrator where there's
a decent amount of money to make arm
but oftentimes you know they just don't even want to deal with it anymore such a
thankless job
offended you I just you know this one the creek or teacher this guy Richard
Ingersoll who wrote the piece
we are held up to a really high standard for everything this 26-year-old teacher
to publish broadcast
it stems in the sense that teachers are real people and the only thing came
close to making me stay with the kids I think that goes to the sense that again
they get blamed for everything that they're
that they're the front lines again you know you're not doing it
you when you're complaining about the teachers you know up
I'm imagine that a nobody gets in the teaching for the money
they get into it they know what it's like holy shit entry to be a teacher
that leap in thirty three thousand dollars a year
upstart but I make a 100 right you know so
you get into it because you want to change because you want to serve share
wisdom and
wide mall right miles but we've got to a point as an it just said where
where student loan debt is so out of control
I that you know even at that point where where people are traditionally said I'm
getting into this because I want to teach and course people will do that
forever
it its it's gotten even worse because of the money yet no other stock but there's
no question
well first ball back when it wasn't tolley because in the money
when the are wasn't you know again and I think it's in this article
women got into teaching because that's a job that women dead therefore they
got merit it what you did you get a temporary much that's why a lot of them
left
and mend it until they became pretzels yet like they got into
administration so and now that's changed all that but we don't think we need to
pay teachers lot more money
numb but we're never gonna do it because it shows you what our priorities are to
I mean to you have let's say newscasters right
you have newscasters that'll make hundreds of thousands of dollars if not
millions of dollars a year doing what they do and yes it's important to inform
the public
but how did those newscasters get to abort the usual work
big companies that have a lot of money there to care a lot about advertising
revenue it was a different model
than a scoreless a which is publicly funded most cases and
you know it is but if you look at if you look at our federal government or the
way we fund education we fund education their property taxes which is a terrible
idea
because if you live in a poor area with low property value
then all the sudden you're not going to have the same amount of money as you
would
if you were beverly hills for instance for the schools in beverly hills where
the property values are much higher
you know there needs to be more funding for education on a federal level i mean
we spend so much on defense
why not take more about money and funnel it into our education system that way
teachers can get paid more and there's more of an incentive to stay there
and be enthusiastic about your job as one of the arguments for a lottery to is
that they do
they the give that money despite a proportionally opposite
so the the month the lottery money for 100 dollars comes and it goes to the
to the a areas that need it most and then you know in
in diminishing numbers goes to the other areas that are getting
the most probably but you know i mean i i yeah I covered education for two years
in charleston every day
and going near the butter knife story a yeah welcome your thoughtful and exiled
cookbook and we just we had to make you know the cell towers gotta go
up for you go to school and a nice part of town same school district nice part
and I just was also struck a
talk story before but the there's the lighting at the ship's course
like the hallways were dark not pitch black but I mean
depressing but just not where you want to be a certainly not where you want
your kid to be alert
and you think were how how's this money getting spayed can we just redo this so
it's
Park in bright yeah and has cute pictures on the wall so they feel
happy to be in this place instead like kinda presenting around some corners
where you're like
just a downer yep %uh and the schools will be
for miles apart but one neighborhood would be lousy and
you know and and mostly minority in the other place would be much leisure