>>> WELCOME BACK, WE’LL HAVE MORE ON THE JEFF BESOS NATIONAL
ENQUIRER STORY IN A MOMENT.
JUST IN THE LAST HOUR A SECOND
WOMAN WENT PUBLIC ACCUSING
JUSTIN FAIRFAX IN A SEXUAL
ASSAULT.
ASSAULT. SHE SAYS SHE WAS RAPED BY HIM IN
2000 WHILE THEY WERE BOTH
STUDENTS.
STUDENTS. MRS. WATSON IMMEDIATELY TOLD
FRIENDS THAT HE RAPED HER.
WE’RE AWAITING A STORY.
HE REPEATEDLY DENIED A SEXUAL
ASSAULT ALLEGATION FROM 2004
THAT THAT CAME IN THIS WEEK.
GEORGE IS A SYNDICATED
COLUMNIST.
COLUMNIST. I SHOULD NOTE THAT TERRY M
McCAULIFFE HAS CALLED FOR JUSTIN
FAIRFAX TO RESIGN.
IT IS CLEAR TO ME HE CAN NO
LONGER EFFECTIVELY SERVE AS
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. I NOTICED THAT DEMOCRATS IN THE
LAST WEEK ARE MORE CONFIDENTBLE
ON ASKING HERRING TO GO.
IT DIDN’T SEEM LIKE WE WOULD
EVER FEEL LIKE WE KNEW THE
STORY.
STORY. A SECOND ACCUSER CHANGES IT.
>> AND BACKED UP BY PEOPLE WHO
CAN CORROBORATE IT AT THE TIME.
I THINK THAT IT WILL BE VERY
DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO REMAIN IN
OFFICE WITH A SECOND PERSON
COMING OUT.
COMING OUT. IF DEMOCRATS WANT TO MAINTAIN A
HORL MIE
HORL MIE MORAL HIGH GRAND ON THESE
ISSUES.
ISSUES. WE PROSECUTED JUSTICE KAVANAUGH
IN THOSE HEARINGS.
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT HIGH
GROUND, HE HAS TO GO.
>> MOST OF THE DEMOCRATS SAY YOU
HAVE TO GET ON THIS?
>> YEAH, I THINK IF THERE ARE
TWO PEOPLE, ASSUMING THEIR TRUE,
AND IF THE SECOND PERSON HAS
PEOPLE SHE TOLD IN REALTIME,
WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
THIS WILL END UP WITH HIM
RESIGNING.
RESIGNING. >> LET ME PUT UP A STATEMENT
FROM JUSTIN FAIRFAX.
I DENY THE LATEST ALLEGE.
I HAVE NEVER FORCED MYSELF ON
ANYONE, EVER.
ANYONE, EVER. I DEMAND A FULL INVESTIGATION.
SUCH AN INVESTIGATION WILL
CONFIRM MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE I’M
TELLING THE TRUTH.
LY CLEAR MY GOOD NAME AND I HAVE
NOTHING TO HIDE.
I PASSED TWO FBI BACKGROUND
CHECKS BY THE FBI.
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT A VICIOUS AND
ORGANIZED SMEAR CAMPAIGN AS
DEVELOPED AGAINST ME.
WHAT DO DEMOCRATS DO.
WHAT DO YOU DO IN A SITUATION
LIKE THIS?
LIKE THIS? >> FIRST OF ALL THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR USED THE WORD
DEMONSTRATIVE.
DEMONSTRATIVE. WHICH IS DEMONSTRATIVE.
THAT ACCUSATION PALES AGAINST
WHAT WE’RE HEARING AND HE MAY
LOOK LIKE THE LAST PERSON TO
HOLD A SHIP TOGETHER.
>> THERE IS A BUZZ FEED STORY
OUT ABOUT GOVERNOR NORTHAM
SEEING IF THERE IS A WAY HE CAN
SURVIVE, AND THEN HE GOES ALL IN
AND BECOMES ESSENTIALLY A RACIAL
JUSTICE WARRIOR.
JUSTICE WARRIOR. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN ACCEPT?
>> I THINK AT THIS POINT WHEN
YOU KNOW THAT JUSTIN FAIRFAX HAS
SOMEONE ACCUSING HIM OF RAPE, TO
KEEP THE PARTY GOING IN THAT
STATE AT THE VERY TOP THEY MAY
HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO
ACCEPT THAT.
ACCEPT THAT. I DON’T KNOW IF THAT -- I DON’T
KNOW IF THAT WILL BE SEEN AS
CREDIBLE.
CREDIBLE. I ALSO THINK YOU KNOW HE
DOESN’T -- HE CAN’T RUN FOR
REELECTION SO THEY CAN BE RID OF
THAT PROBLEM AT SOME POINT.
IT FEELS FALSE.
IF YOU WANT IT TO BE A RACIAL
JUSTICE WARRIOR, THEN DO IT, BUT
THAT IS NOT HOW YOU REPAIR THIS
PROBLEM.
PROBLEM. >> HE IS THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY THAT IS HAPPENING JUST
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. RACE, GENDER, AND ME TOO.
IT IS A STAIN.
VIRGINIA IS A GIANT TATTOO.
>> NO DOUBT, AND AS LONG AS
THREE THREE MEN MAINTAIN THEIR
POST AT THE TOP OF THE PARTY
EVERY DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE IN
2020 WILL BE ASKED ABOUT THEM
AND JUSTIFIABLY SO.
VIRGINIA IS A REALLY IMPORTANT
STATE.
STATE. IT IS AN IMPORTANT SOURCE OF
FUNDRAISING.
FUNDRAISING. THEY HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY
EFFECTIVE AT ESSENTIALLY
OBLITERATING THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY THERE IN THE LAST TEN
YEARS.
YEARS. THEY HAVE FUNCTIONALLY EATEN
THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. NOW WE’RE SEEING THE PARTY START
TO IMPLODE FROM THE TOP DOWN.
THE LONGER THE SCANDAL GOES ON
THE MORE IT HURTS THE NATIONAL
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> IS THERE NIP THAT CAN TAKE A
LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THE STATE?
DOES PRESIDENT OBAMA?
>> I THINK THAT ERIN WOULD HOPE
THAT NORTHAM WOULD DO THE RIGHT
THING.
THING. >> BUT IF HE DID THAT THEN WHAT
WOULD YOU HAVE HAD?
GOVERNOR FAIRFAX RIGHT NOW.
>> EXACTLY, THIS IS MULTIPLE
PRONGED.
PRONGED. IT IS GREAT THAT HE FOUND THE
LUGT ON THE ISSUES BUT IT IS A
LITTLE LATE.
LITTLE LATE. AND PROBABLY AS YOU SAID NOT
BELIEVABLE AT THIS POINT.
I THINK THAT EACH OF THESE THREE
MEN HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION
WHETHER OR NOT THEY’RE PUTTING
THEMSELVES FIRST OR THE STATE OF
VIRGINIA FIRST.
VIRGINIA FIRST. AND I THINK FOR VOTERS, FOR THE
LONG TERM INTEREST OF THE PARTY,
WE’RE BETTER OFF WITH THESE
PEOPLE PUTTING THE STATE AND
THEIR VOTERS AHEAD OF THEIR OWN
PERSONAL POLITICAL INTEREST.
>> THE THING THAT TERRY M
McCAULIFFE SAID IS THAT THEY CAN
GO LONGER EFFECTIVELY GOVERN.
THAT MEANS EVERY TIME YOU’RE
INTERVIEWED YOU WILL BE ASKED IF
YOU WORE BLACK FACE OR RAPED
SOMEONE.
SOMEONE. IS IT ABOUT POLITICS OR DOING
SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE TO BE
PUNISHED FOR IT.
IF A REPUBLICAN HAS TO RUN
VIRGINIA FOR AWHILE, THEN OKAY.
>> AND IF WE DON’T --
>> I WISH WE HAD A RECALL
PROVISION HERE.
PROVISION HERE. IT FEELS LIKE THE VOTERS SHOULD
HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
>> BUT THAW DON’T.
THIS IS THE POLITICAL CLASS THAT
WILL SOURCE THIS OUT.
THIS IS OCCURRING AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE DEMOCRATIC
NATIONAL PRIMARY AND WE SAW THE
RUTHLESSNESS AND SWIFTNESS WITH
WHICH THEY MOVED AGAINST AL
FRANKEN BECAUSE HE WAS BLURRING
THEIR MESSAGE.
THEIR MESSAGE. I WOULD EXPECT THEY WILL NOT SIT
STILL AND ALLOW THEIR MESSAGE TO
BE DROWNED OUT BY THIS
DISTRACTION FROM VIRGINIA.
>> THE DEMOCRATS CAN’T LOOK LIKE
THEIR CARE MORE ABOUT HOLDING
POWER -- THEN WHAT THE POINT OF
ATTACKS ON MITCH McCONNELL AND
MERRICK GARGARLAND.
MERRICK GARGARLAND. >> RIGHT, A PRINCIPAL IS NOT A
PRINCIPAL IF YOU SELL IT OUT
BECAUSE YOU MIGHT LOSE THE
GOVERNOR’S MANSION.
GOVERNOR’S MANSION. THAT IS NOT HOW THOSE THINGS
MIGHT WORK.
MIGHT WORK. ONE THING ABOUT FAIRFAX’S
STATEMENT IS HIS CLAIM THAT
THERE WAS A COORDINATED SMEAR
CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. HE IS NOT JUST SAYING HE IS
INNOCENT.
INNOCENT. HE IS IMPLYING THAT MULTIPLE
WOMEN ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN A
NEFARIOUS AND ORGANIZED WAY TO
DAMAGE HIS GOOD NAME.
THAT IS VERY COMPARABLE TO WHAT
WE HEARD OTHER MEN SAY AND WHEN
THEY SAY THINGS LIKE THIS
DEMOCRATS SCORCH THEM.
>> BUT BRETT KAVANAUGH IS ON THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT. SO IT WORKED.
>> THERE IS A HIERARCHY OF
OFFENSES, HE IS NOT ACCUSED OF A
CRIME.
CRIME. >> AND HE IS AT LEAST ACTING
LIKE HE WANTS REMORSE AND THAT
SUDDENLY MATTER -- WE’RE ALL A
LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF HIM BUT THE
MORE HE DOES THESE THINGS THE
BETTER IT LOOKS.
>> I THINK FAIRFAX DESERVES AN
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. I’M SURE THERE ARE STEPS BEING
TAKEN TO DO THAT.
I ALSO THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY
LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS GOING ON
WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE
INCLUDING THE BLACK CAUCUS ABOUT
WHAT TO DO ABOUT NORTHAM.
HE MIGHT THINK THAT HE WILL STAY
IN OFFICE, BUT THIS STORY HAS A
FEW MORE CHAPTERS.
AND EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO
ABILITY TO VOTE HIM OUT OF
OFFICE RIGHT NOW, HE WILL NOT
HAVE --
HAVE -- >> YOU DON’T WANT THIS, IN THE
ATMOSPHERE IN 2020.