INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE
BIDEN’S PROMISE IS NOT JUST A
PIPE-DREAM.
LIZ.
ELIZABETH: GRADY TRIMBLE THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
JOINING US TEXAS CONGRESSMAN PAT
FALLON.
HE JUST CAME BACK FROM POLAND’S
BORDER WITH UKRAINE.
WE HAVE WHITE HOUSE FORMER
DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF KARL ROVE.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH ON THE
SHOW.
KARL, FIRST TO YOU, THE
PRESIDENT AD-LIBBING HIS WAY
INTO NEW BLUNDER.
A SLOPPY LACK OF DISCIPLINE
CRITICS SAY.
MAKING IT HARDER FOR RUSSIA TO
CAPITULATE. HE IS DOUBLING DOWN.
HE IS DOUBLING DOWN.
HE SAYS HE SUPPORTS WHAT HE SAID
SUPPORTS REGIME CHANGE IN
RUSSIA.
>> I DON’T KNOW, LIZ, I WISH HE
WOULD ZIP HIS MOUTH AND TAKE
ACTIONS.
I DON’T CARE WHAT HIS WORDS ARE
AT THIS POINT F HE WANTS TO HELP
THE UKRAINIANS HOW THE SHIP MORE
ASYMMETRICAL AID LIKE WE ASKED
HIM TO DO.
I WOULD SEND ARTILLERY PIECES,
ZIP POTUS’ MOUTH WOULD BE
BETTER.
>> TO HIS POINT, DROP THE MIC
MOMENT.
FIRST HE SAID IT.
THEN HE SAID HE DOESN’T WANT
REGIME CHANGE.
TODAY HE IS DEFENDING MISTAKES
HE MADE OVERSEAS.
KARL, LISTEN TO WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SAID TODAY.
WATCH THIS.
REPORTER: ARE YOU WORRIED THAT
OTHER LEADERS IN THE WORLD ARE
GOING TO START TO DOUBT THAT
AMERICA IS BACK IF SOME OF THESE
BIG THINGS THAT YOU SAY ON THE
WORLD STAGE KEEP GETTING WALKED
BACK?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: WHAT IS GETTING
WALKED BACK.
>> JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS,
SOUNDED LIKE YOU TOLD U.S.
TROOPS THEY WERE GOING TO
UKRAINE.
IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU SAID IT WAS
POSSIBLE THE U.S. WOULD USE A
CHEMICAL WEAPON AND IT SOUNDED
LIKE YOU WERE CALLING FOR REGIME
CHANGE IN RUSSIA.
AND WE KNOW --
>> NONE OF THE THREE OCCURRED.
REPORTER: NONE OF THE THREE
OCCURRED.
MR. PRESIDENT?
>> YOU INTERPRET THE LANGUAGE
THAT WAY.
I WAS TALKING TO THE TROOPS.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HELPING
TRAIN THE TROOPS IN, THAT ARE,
UKRAINIAN TROOPS THAT ARE IN
POLAND.
REPORTER: SO WHEN YOU SAID
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE WHEN YOU’RE
THERE, YOU WERE NOT INTENDING --
PRESIDENT BIDEN: I WAS REFERRING
TO BEING WITH AND TALKING WITH
THE UKRAINIAN TROOPS THAT WERE
IN POLAND.
ELIZABETH: WHAT DO YOU THINK,
KARL?
>> WELL, LOOK, PRESIDENT BIDEN
HAS DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS A
WALKING GAFFE MACHINE.
WE SAW THE GAFFS AND THEY ARE
HAVING CONSEQUENCES BOTH AT HOME
AND ABROAD.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS A
STRONG LEADER?
WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT HE WASN’T EXACTLY IN
THE BEST OF POSITIONS THIS FOX
POLL, 47-47 IN SEPTEMBER OF
2020.
AFTER AFGHANISTAN LAST YEAR IT
WAS 45-53.
IN EARLY FEBRUARY IT WAS 36-61.
I BET THAT NUMBER GETS EVEN
WEAKER HERE IN THE DAYS AHEAD IF
IT IS POLLED AGAIN BECAUSE THESE
THINGS MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A WEAK
LEADER.
THESE WERE ALL AD-LIBS, THEY ALL
HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND THEY’RE
ADVERSE FOR THE UNITED STATES
INTERESTS.
ELIZABETH: THE WHITE HOUSE,
CONGRESSMAN, TO KARL’S POINT, IT
HAS DONE EVERYTHING IT CAN TO
STOP ESCALATION BUT YOU KNOW,
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE ESCALATION
IN SAYING YOU WANT REGIME CHANGE
AND WHAT KARL IS SAYING WE’VE
GOT ALSO THIS NEW AP POLL, NINE
OUT OF 10 SAY THEY DON’T WANT
AMERICA IN A WAR AND THEN SEVEN
OUT OF 10 IN A NEW NBC POLL IS
SAYING THEY HAVE LOW CONFIDENCE
IN THE PRESIDENT’S HANDLING OF
THIS? >> WELL, LIZ, JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT
>> WELL, LIZ, JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT
AS INSPIRING AS A STEAL
CROISSANT.
WHAT WHICH NEED TO BE DOING,
WHAT I SAID BEFORE, IT CAN’T BE
UNDERSTATED, SENDING UKRAINIANS
STINGERS TO MITIGATE THE
HELICOPTER RISK.
SENDING JAVELINS, HARPOONS IF
THEY WANT THEM ANTI-SHIP
MISSILES.
LIGHT MACHINE GUNS, PLASTIC
EXPLOSIVES, AMERICAN RPDs, THE
EQUIVALENT THERE OF.
AMMUNITION.
LIGHT MACHINE GUNS.
ARM THEM TO THE TEETH.
GIVE THEM ECONOMIC AID THEY
NEED.
PUTIN WILL KNOW HE IS IN A LONG
STRUGGLE, WILL COME TO THE TABLE
OR AT LEAST APT TO.
ELIZABETH: WATCH WHAT HAPPENED,
KARL.
REACT TO WHAT HAPPENED.
IT IS ON TAPE.
YOU SAY THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE IS
A GAFFE MACHINE, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW THE THING IS, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT HOW HE SAID IT AND WHAT
HE SAID IT FEELS LIKE A DUMPSTER
FIRE.
HE HAS MADE FOUR MISTAKES IN
THREE DAYS.
LET’S WATCH WHAT HAPPENED.
PRESIDENT BIDEN: FOR GOD’S SAKE,
THIS MAN CANNOT REMAIN IN POWER.
SANCTIONS NEVER DETER.
YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SANCTIONS NEVER DETER.
AND YOU’RE GOING TO SEE WHEN
YOU’RE THERE, SOME OF YOU HAVE
BEEN THERE, YOU’RE GOING TO SEE,
YOU’RE GOING TO SEE WOMEN, YOUNG
PEOPLE, STANDING IN THE MIDDLE
IN FRONT OF A DAMN TANK, JUST
SAYING I’M NOT LEAVING.
I’M HOLDING MY GROUND.
WE DID, TALK ABOUT FOOD
SHORTAGES AND IT IS GOING TO BE
REAL.
ELIZABETH: WHAT DO YOU SAY,
KARL?
I MEAN WE’VE GOT, ONE HOST SAID
THE STATE, THE STATE OF THE
UNION TODAY IS AMERICA WONDERING
WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IS GOING TO
BLUNDER INTO NEXT.
>> YEAH.
WELL YOU LEFT OFF ONE OF THE
OTHERS.
HE SAID IF THE RUSSIANS USE
CHEMICAL WEAPONS WE’LL RESPOND
IN A LIKE MANNER.
WE DON’T EVEN HAVE CHEMICAL
WEAPONS BECAUSE WE ABIDE BY AN
INTERNATIONAL TREATY THAT OUTLAW
LAWS THEM.
THESE ARE BIG PROBLEMS N HIS
RESPONSE TO PETER DOOCY, HE SAID
I NEVER SAID THOSE THINGS.
WHO WILL YOU BELIEF, YOUR LYING
EYES AND EARS?
IT IS BETTER FOR THE PRESIDENT
TO STUCK TO THE ORIGINAL LINE HE
HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NEWS
CONFERENCE WHICH WAS I WAS
EXPRESSING MY MORAL OUTRAGE.
LOOK THIS HAS CONSEQUENCES.
I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
STRONG AND DECISIVE IN THE
"GALLUP POLL."
IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020, IT WAS
46%.
IN JANUARY, BEFORE ALL THIS
STARTED IT WAS 37.
CAN HE MANAGE THE GOVERNMENT
EFFECTIVELY?
CAN HE IN ESSENCE LEAD?
52% IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020.
TODAY 38.
I BET AFTER ALL OF THIS HUBBUB
AND ABOUT HIS VISIT TO EUROPE IT
WILL BE EVEN LESS.
THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE
COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY IN A TIME
OF GRAVE DANGER.
I COULDN’T AGREE MORE WITH
CONGRESSMAN FALLON.
GIVE UKRAINIANS WHAT THEY NEED.
I WOULD ADD TO THE LIST A-300
ANTI-AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS THAT WILL
ALLOW THEM TO DOMINATE THE
SKIES, BRING DOWN SOVIET JETS
FLYING ABOVE THE CURRENT LEVEL A
STINGER CAN ATTACK.
WE SHOULD DO LIKE PROVIDE THEM
MIG-29s, DISASSEMBLE, THEM
SEND AIRPORTS TO KEEP THE
UKRAINIAN AIR FORCE BOEING.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT UKRAINIANS
SHORT OF U.S. TROOPS CROSSING
THAT BORDER.
THE PRESIDENT MAKES IT DIFFICULT
TO DO THOSE THINGS TO RALLY
SUPPORT WHEN HE INCOHERENT LIKE
HE WAS.
ELIZABETH: REALITY OF WHAT KARL
SAID, CONGRESSMAN, IT IS A
NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.
THEY HAVE HIT HIM.
THEY STAGE MANAGED HIM.
HE HAS SCRIPTED PRESS
CONFERENCES.
2012, OBAMA TEAM PULLED BIDEN
OFF THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL BAH HE
WAS MAKING MISTAKES.
"POLITICO" SAYING YOU DON’T GOT
THIS, DON’T HAVE THIS, JOE.
HOW DOES A GUY WITH 50 YEARS OF
FOREIGN POLICY AD-LIB A LINE AS
BIG AS THAT ABOUT RUSSIA DURING
A HOT WEAR IN EUROPE?
>> IT MAKES YOU QUESTION HIS
MENTAL ACUITY, MENTAL STATE.
ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IN
CONGRESS, DR. RONNY JACKSON,
DOCTOR TO THREE PRESIDENTS
WORRIES ABOUT HIS MENTAL ACUITY.
HE SHOULDN’T LEAD THE FREE WORLD
RIGHT NOW.
I DON’T KNOW IF I WOULD HIRE HIM
FOR THE MID-SIZE THE COMPANY I
HAD A FEW YEARS BACK.
IT WORRIES ME GREATLY.
WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE ARMY.
WE TALKED TO THE THE 82nd
AIRBORNE COMMANDER.
WE WILL DEFEND NATO IF NEED BE
GOD FORBID.
AS KARL SAID WE NEED TO SEND
EVERYTHING FOR UKRAINIANS TO