>>> THE U.S. WOMEN’S SOCCER TEAM IS NOW ON THEIR WAY BACK TO THE
UNITED STATES AFTER YESTERDAY’S
HUGE WORLD CUP WIN AND THE CROWD
DID NOT JUST ERUPT IN THIS
VICTORIOUS ROAR FOR THEM, THEY
ALSO STARTED CHANTING FOR EQUAL
PAY.
PAY. [ CHANTING "EQUAL PAY ]"
>> NOW, THAT IS A MOMENT.
THE WOMEN’S TEAM SUED, OF
COURSE, THE U.S. SOCCER
FEDERATION FOR GENDER
DISCRIMINATION BACK IN JUNE,
SAYING THEY SHOULD GET THE SAME
PAY AS THE MEN WHO PLAY THE SAME
GAME.
GAME. YESTERDAY THEY GOT WHAT SOUNDED
LIKE SUPPORT FOR EQUAL PAY, TO A
DEGREE, FROM AN UNLIKELY ALLY.
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP. LISTEN TO THIS.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE FEMALE
ATHLETES SHOULD BE PAID AS MUCH
AS THEIR MAIL COUNTERPARTS?
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT
[ INAUDIBLE ] YOU ALSO HAVE TO
LOOK AT SOCCER, PROFESSIONAL
SOCCER.
SOCCER. [ INAUDIBLE ] SO I DON’T KNOW
WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HARD TO HEAR
THERE SAYING HE WOULD LOOK INTO
IT.
IT. THE QUESTION ASKED, BY THE WAY,
BY OUR WHITE HOUSE UNIT
PRODUCER, THE TEAM’S WIN WAS
CELEBRATING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND
SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE NANCY
PELOSI INVITED THEM ALL TO
CAPITOL HILL.
CAPITOL HILL. PRESIDENT TRUMP OF COURSE HAS
NOT YET INVITED THEM TO THE
WHITE HOUSE.
WHITE HOUSE. AFTER THAT FEUD WITH ONE OF THE
TEAM’S CAPTAINS, MEGAN RAPINOE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TWEETED A COUPLE
WEEKS AGO THAT HE WOULD INVITE
THE TEAM EVEN IF THEY LOST.
RAPINO SAID SHE WASN’T GOING TO
GO TO THE WHITE HOUSE AT ALL.
SOME OF HER TEAMMATES HAVE
SUPPORTED HER.
SUPPORTED HER. WITH US NOW IS A SPORTS WRITER
FOR THE ATHLETIC.
LET ME START WITH YOU.
TALK THROUGH THE NUMBERS HERE.
HOW MUCH MONEY THE WOMEN GET
COMPARED TO THE MEN AND HOW YOU
SEE THIS PLAYING OUT AS IT
RELATES TO THIS LAWSUIT AND THE
CHAMPIONSHIP, BY THE WAY, THAT
THE WOMEN CAN COME TO AND SAY,
HEY, LOOK WHAT WE’VE GOT.
>> THE ARGUMENT THAT’S USUALLY
USED AGAINST WOMEN GETTING EQUAL
PAY IN SOCCER IS THAT THE
WOMEN’S WORLD CUP DOES NOT
GENERATE AS MUCH REVENUE AS THE
MEN’S DOES AND THAT’S ABSOLUTELY
TRUE, BUT IF YOU BREAK IT DOWN
TO U.S. SOCCER, THE WOMEN’S
NATIONAL TEAM GENERATES $20
MILLION MORE REVENUE THAN THE
MEN’S SOCCER TEAM.
THAT COMES DOWN TO A LAWSUIT
AGAINST THE U.S. SOCCER
FEDERATION.
FEDERATION. IT’S MORE DIFFICULT THEN WHEN
YOU WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN TO
BROADCASTING RIGHTS AND
TELEVISION DEALS AND SPONSORSHIP
RIGHTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE
NEGOTIATED IN CONJUNCTION WITH
THE MEN’S TEAM AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK AT NIKE SALES AND
THE TV RATINGS THE WOMEN DO
OUTPERFORM THE MEN.
IT’S A DISINGENUOUS ARGUMENT
USED AGAINST THEM.
>> RAPINO WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
ISSUE OF EQUAL PAY JUST THIS
MORNING.
MORNING. HERE IS WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.
>> I THINK EVERYBODY IS READY
FOR IT, EVERYBODY WANTS IT,
EVERYBODY IS READY FOR THE
CONVERSATION TO BE MOVED TO THE
NEXT PIECE AND TO HAVE SOMETHING
LIKE THAT AND, YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY IN THE BIGGEST MATCH
THAT WENT SO FAR BEYOND ANYTHING
SPORT WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
>> FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE HOW
MUCH DOES IT HELP OR NOT WHEN
THE NATION’S MOST POWERFUL
POLITICIANS, PEOPLE LIKE NANCY
PELOSI, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO INVITED
THESE WOMEN TO CAPITOL HILL,
COME OUT AND SAY, YES, OF COURSE
THESE WOMEN SHOULD GET EQUAL
PAY?
PAY? >> IT HELPS INCREDIBLY BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ACTUAL
ACTION ON THAT.
I WAS JUST IN LONDON FOR THE
SEMI THAT THE U.S. PLAYED
AGAINST ENGLAND AND THEY HAVE A
MINISTER OF SPORT WHO HAS SPOKEN
VERY OUTSPOKENLY ABOUT THE NEED
FOR EQUAL PAY, EQUAL COVERAGE
AND EQUAL REALLY COMES DOWN TO
EQUAL RESPECT.
EQUAL RESPECT. I THINK THAT IT’S GREAT TO HEAR
POLITICIANS TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT
WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO
FROM A LEGISLATIVE STANDPOINT TO
ENSURE THERE IS EQUAL PAY?
>> I THINK ALSO IN TERMS OF
POLITICIANS ACTUALLY TALKING
ABOUT THIS, IT WILL BE
INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES BRING THIS UP ON THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL, EQUAL PAY IS
SOMETHING THEY’VE MADE A
CENTERPIECE OF THEIR CAMPAIGNS,
PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR KAMALA
HARRIS, KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND.
SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE
HOW MUCH THEY SORT OF LATCH ON
TO THIS WOMEN’S VICTORY HERE AND
TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
>> SOMEBODY ELSE WE’VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT SUPERSTAR WOMEN
ATHLETES AND I HAVE SOME TOUGH
NEWS TO BREAK TO ALL YOU WHO ARE
WATCHING THIS SHOW AND NOT
WIMBLEDON.
WIMBLEDON. 15-YEAR-OLD TENNIS PHENOM COCO
GAUFF HAS LOST HER WIMBLEDON
MATCH, SHE WAS PLAYING THIS
MORNING.
MORNING. SHE IS THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO BEAT
VENUS WILLIAMS EARLIER IN THE
TOURNAMENT.
TOURNAMENT. SHE HAS BEEN ON THIS HOT STREAK.
CAME OFF A COME BACK WIN OVER
THE LAST COUPLE DAYS.
WE ARE THINKING OF HER AND
ROOTING FOR HER EVEN IN THIS
MOMENT OF WHAT IS SURE TO BE A
DIFFICULT EMOTIONS, BUT IT HAS
ME ASKING YOU THIS, RIGHT, IN
ALL GRAND SLAM TOURNAMENTS WOMEN
GOT EQUAL PRIZE MONEY.
THAT’S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE 2007
IN TENNIS.
IN TENNIS. WHY IS IT TAKING SOCCER SO MUCH
LONGER TO GET IT TOGETHER?
>> WELL, IT’S THE COMMON
REFRAIN, RIGHT, EQUAL PAY FOR
EQUAL WORK AND A LOT OF PEOPLE,
A LOT OF THE DETRACTORS ARE
SAYING THAT THE WOMEN DON’T DO
EQUAL WORK.
EQUAL WORK. THAT’S WHAT THEY ALWAYS SAID IN
TENNIS BECAUSE THE WOMEN PLAY
TREE SETS INSTEAD OF FIVE.
IN SOCCER IT REALLY DOESN’T HOLD
UP.
UP. GLOBALLY IT’S A BIT OF A
DIFFERENT ISSUE, BUT THE U.S.
BREAKDOWN, I MEAN, THE SUCCESS
THAT THE WOMEN HAVE HAD, THE
NUMBER OF GAMES THAT THEY PLAY
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT
THE PERFORMANCE BONUSES WHICH IS
BASED ON HOW FAR THEY GET INTO
TOURNAMENTS THE WOMEN MAKE 38%
OF PERFORMANCES BONUSES THAT THE
MEN DO.
MEN DO. IT REALLY DOESN’T HOLD UP.
BUT THE REASON THAT IT’S BEEN
TAKING SO LONG IS REALLY JUST
THIS KIND OF INSTILLED IDEA WE
UNDERVALUE WOMEN’S SPORTS AND
THE WORK THAT THEY DO SO WE
CONSIDER THE WORK THAT THEY DO
TO NOT BE EQUAL.