WEEKEND WITH TEMPS EXPECTED IN
THE 90s, THAT HOT FOR THERE.
>> Bill: BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
PUSHING ITS CLIMATE AGENDA WITH
NEW AGGRESSIVE RULES WITH A
CAPITAL A.
THEY REQUIRE MOST FOSSIL FUEL
POWER PLANTS TO REDUCE
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY 90%
BY THE YEAR 2040 OR THEY’LL BE
SHUT DOWN.
NEW RULES RELY ON RARELY USED
CARBON CAPTURE TECHNOLOGY FOR
THOSE CUTS.
EDITOR AND CHIEF FOR FORBES,
STEVE FORBES, HERE.
NO WONDER SENATOR MANCHIN SAID I
WILL BLOCK ALL YOUR PROPOSALS ON
THE EPA.
IS THIS POSSIBLE?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THIS IS THE BIGGEST POWER GRAB
IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
THEY AREN’T GOING THROUGH
CONGRESS.
THEY ARE DESTROYING AN INDUSTRY.
TAKING OVER INDUSTRIES.
EVERY MODERN CONVENIENCE MAKING
SURE YOU CAN’T USE, DISHWASHERS,
WASHING MACHINES, AIR
CONDITIONERS, ANY GAS STOVES.
IT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED POWER
GRAB AND THEY HAVE NO
JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
I A LOT OF THESE WILL GO TO THE
SUPREME COURT.
SUPREME COURT WILL DO WHAT THEY
DID WITH WEST VIRGINIA VERSUS
THE EPA AND SAY YOU WANT TO DO
SOMETHING BIG LIKE USING
TAILPIPES TO WRECK THE OIL
INDUSTRY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH
CONGRESS.
THIS THING DOESN’T WORK.
GERMANY HAS 2 TO 3 TIME THE COST
OF ENERGY WE DO IN THIS COUNTRY
BECAUSE THEY WENT THIS ROUTE.
THEY DIDN’T GO AS FAR AS BIDEN
IS PROPOSING.
>> Dana: YESTERDAY THE EPA SAID
THIS TIME IT IS LEGAL.
EVEN THE SUPREME COURT JUST SAID
THAT IT WASN’T.
WHAT’S DIFFERENT?
>> THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
THEY USE ANY STRATEGY THEY CAN.
SINCE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO
TAILPIPE EMISSIONS THEY CAN USE
THAT THING TO DO THE WHOLE
INDUSTRY.
WRECK THE WHOLE INDUSTRY.
>> Dana: WHAT ARE WE DOING TO
OURSELVES AS A COUNTRY?
>> HISTORIANS WILL LOOK BACK AND
WONDER WHERE WAS THE SUN AND
MOON.
THIS HYSTERIA NOT BASED ON
SCIENCE.
THE LAST 20 YEARS WE’VE SPENT $5
TRILLION ON SO-CALLED
ALTERNATIVES.
RENEWABLES.
THE AMOUNT OF FOSSIL FUEL ENERGY
IN THE WORLD HAS GONE FROM 86 TO
84%.
2% REDUCTION FOR $5 TRILLION.
IMAGINE IF THAT WAS USED FOR
CLEAN WATER, NEW PRODUCTS AND
SERVICES.
MONUMENTAL WASTE AND IT DOESN’T
WORK AS WE SEE IN EUROPE.
IF YOU TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS
YOU’LL RIP UP THE WHOLE EARTH
LITHIUM.
WHERE WILL THAT COME FROM?
>> Bill: THE DEBT CEILING YOU
CAN MAKE INTERESTING.
THEY WERE GOING TO MEET TODAY.
THE PRINCIPLE PLAYERS WILL NOT.
JAMESFREEMAN RIGHT THE DANGER
TRYING TO AVOID OBAMA’S MISTAKE
THE WHITE HOUSE THREATENS
ANOTHER BLUNDER FROM A
MISREADING OF RECENT HISTORY.
THE IN THE WON’T ATTEND THE
MEETING TODAY.
PERHAPS PROGRESS BEING MADE.
>> THE FACT THAT HE MET WITH
SPEAKER MCCARTHY SAYING I’M NOT
GOING TO NEGOTIATE TELLS YOU ALL
YOU NEED TO KNOW.
STAFFS ARE STARTING TO FEEL EACH
OTHER OUT ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE
AND SO THE FACT THAT MCCARTHY
GOT THIS THING THROUGH THE HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES, THAT GIVES A
REAL CLOUT IN NEGOTIATIONS THAT
WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN IF HE JUST
CAME WITH A PROPOSAL.
I THINK YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING
DONE.
AND WHAT BIDEN DOESN’T REALIZE
IF SOMETHING GOES BACK THE
CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP HE WILL HAVE
TO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY.
HE WAS IN CHARGE AND HE FUMBLED
BADLY.
>> Dana: THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE
TOWN HALL DEBATE PRESIDENT TRUMP
WAS ASKED ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING
AND TOLD HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO
LET IT GO.
HE SAID THAT WOULDN’T BE A
POLITICAL PROBLEM FOR THEM.
I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S TRUE.
BUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS IF
THERE IS A DEFAULT TO EVERYBODY
IN AMERICA IS NOT GOOD, RIGHT?
>> IN TERMS OF DEFAULT, THE
GOVERNMENT HAS THE WIGGLE ROOM.
THEY HAVE LAWYERS THERE.
THEY CAN STILL CONTINUE TO PAY
BILLS.
THEY STILL CONTINUE TO PAY
INTEREST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR A DEFAULT.
SO IF THEY STOP PAYING THE
INTEREST IT’S BECAUSE THEY MADE
A POLITICAL DECISION, NOT REALLY
A LEGAL DECISION.
>> Bill: SO HE WAS SAYING IT WAS
MORE PSYCHOLOGICAL THAN ANYTHING
ELSE.
TRUMP’S POINT THE OTHER NIGHT.
MANY DEMOCRATS BELIEVE OBAMA
SHOULD HAVE NEVER AGREED TO
NEGOTIATE WITH REPUBLICANS OVER
THE DEBT CEILING IN 2011.
THEY BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A BIG
MISTAKE TO DO SO NOW.
IF MR. BIDEN’S WITHDRAWAL FROM
NEGOTIATING WITH CONGRESS TURNS
OUT TO BE THE EQUIVALENT OF HIS
WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN IS
IT POSSIBLE TO OVERSTATE THE
RISKS?
END QUOTE.
>> IT SHOWS THIS ADMINISTRATION
IS THROWING ASIDE ALL SENSE OF
RESPONSIBILITY.
EVEN IN 2011 YOU HAD HARRY REED
WHO HEADED THE DEMOCRATS.
NO LOVER OF REPUBLICANS.
MCCONNELL AND OTHERS SAYING YOU
HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
THEY WENT TO THE PRESIDENT.
HERE IS THE DEAL AND DO IT.
THEY FINE LE DID SOMETHING AND
CUT THE BUDGET BY $9 HUNDRED
BILL OVER AN EIGHT-YEAR PERIOD.
THE JOURNAL POINTED OUT THE LAST TEN DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS
TEN DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVEN
NEGOTIATIONS.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND
WE CAN’T KEEP SPENDING.
THE LACK OF STATURE FOR AMERICA
BECAUSE WE AREN’T GETTING OUR
ACT TOGETHER INSTEAD OF THE
PRESIDENT GOING BEFORE THE
NATION TO SAY HERE IS WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO.
HE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.
>> Bill: SMART OF HIM TO CUT A
DEAL.
HE SAW THE NUMBERS THE OTHER
DAY.
>> Dana: DO YOU THINK HE WILL?
>> I THINK SO, YES.
>> Bill: THAT MIGHT BE THE JOE