People want both parties to move
from the fringes from the extremes back to the center.
>> That is Chris Wallace on his new show, who's watching Chris Wallace?
Sorry, who's talking to Chris Wallace or something like that?
It's on HBO max, I'm sure you know that it was originally slated to be on CNN's,
CNN plus before they canceled that embarrassingly.
But, un-deterred, he continues to press his agenda on everyone, and
that is the agenda of the mainstream media to reframe things,
in a way that benefits corporations.
He says that everybody wants to take it toward the center, and AOC pushed back.
>> I think a lot of people in this country may say yes, but it's important for
us to dig into the substance of what that actually means.
As someone who is often, I think characterized as extreme,
I of course would object to that.
I do not believe that I am as extreme,
in the way that Marjorie Taylor Greene on the republican side is extreme.
The idea that there is an equating of believing in someone who believes in
guaranteed universal health care in the United States.
Was someone who believes that,
undocumented people should incur physical harm,
are somehow in the same level of extreme is something that I would object to.
>> So for people who are new to this, in mainstream media, what they do is say,
hey, everything on the left is just as crazy as everything too far to the right?
Let's meet in the middle, and then the middle conveniently turns out to be stuff
that benefits major corporations that run ads on those networks?
Now this is a difficult question, did AOC handle it correctly,
incorrectly junk thoughts.
>> Yeah, so my main complaint about her answer is that it was too erudite.
Ironically I'm doing the same thing right now.
I bring it down, make it simpler and easier to understand.
She's giving too much credence to Chris Wallace.
Look, don't get me wrong, the tenor of the answer, well,
the substance of the answer is correct let me put it that way.
But here's how I would have answered it.
No Chris, [LAUGH] I don't know that I would have said it exactly this way,
I love your brother.
But, the framing of that question is completely and utterly wrong.
So number one, you say extremes as if our side
is even extreme, I totally reject that.
In fact,
I think the extreme position is what you all in mainstream media call moderate.
And at that point of course Chris Wallace gonna jump out of his seat.
"How dare you, what do you mean"?
"It's definitely the modern position to be for corporate rule" is it?
Cuz then I would counter with these stats,
I'm gonna go right away to graphic five, okay.
So for example, AOC's position as is the position of all progressives,
is to be in favor of paid family leave?
Well that pulls at 84%, yet Chris Wallace and
everybody else in mainstream media said that Joe Manchin and Christian Cinema,
were moderates for killing that proposal.
Well, who's extreme Chris, clearly mansions extreme.
Clearly the entire, not just the Trump guys,
the entire Republican Party is intensely, extreme for
being as a proposal that 84% of Americans and by the way, 74% of Republicans want.
So who's extreme Chris?
And he said, well, that's probably just one issue.
No, first of all, as you'll see in my book,
justiceiscomingbook.com, which you can preorder.
The whole first chapter is dozens and dozens of polls,
that show that we're incredibly, are possibles are incredibly popular,
on almost every issue, but I'll just give you two more here.
How about the federal minimum wage?
Well, New Amazon/Ipsos poll released, this is from 2021, found that 80%
of Americans believe the current federal minimum wage is not sufficient, 80%.
So which one is the extreme position Chris.
Because AOC said we should do raise the federal minimum wage, and 80 democrats and
every Republican said no, 80% of the people American people say yes.
So obviously, obviously mention, corporate democrats like coons, corporate,
every Republican is super extreme to be against 80% of American people.
Finally public option.
This is not Medicare for all, it's not universal health care.
It's like the bare minimum, hey, while you have private insurance,
can the government also offer you a public option for
insurance, that you can choose to take or not take?
How does that pole, well that polls extremely high as always.
So 68% at least saying yes, we want the public option,
18% saying they don't want it.
So who's extreme, the 68% or the 18%.
So, every part of that premise is 100% wrong,
and she was correct in what she said.
She just said it way too politely, that's my opinion, Max.
>> I'll tell you I've heard of media equivalency, but
Chris Wallace really elevates it to an art.
I mean it is honestly portrayed as more extreme in this country,
to support canceling student debt.
Than to stand in front of 20,000 people and
say let's use our Second Amendment rights to stop democrats from stealing elections.
I mean, we spend so much time as a country bringing democrats
on to supposedly crazy left wing media.
And asking them to justify what is mainstream policy for
70 80 as you said percent of this country.
And yet I've never seen Chris Wallace sit down with a Marjorie Taylor Greene or
Lauren Bow Bert.
And ask them to defend really any of the calls to
violence that they have said at Trump rallies or at their own rallies.
It is just a remarkable thing, to see that these are painted as equally extreme,
when if anything what AOC is doing is representing more fearlessly than
the democratic establishment.
What a majority of people in this country actually want.
>> And by the way, not just Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Bow Bert,
I've never seen them ask what they call a moderate Republican or
a moderate Democrat.
One tough question in their entire goddamn lives.
And then it's more frustrating with Chris Wallace,
cuz Chris Wallace is actually pretty good at this.
So we're fair, like of all the interviewers,
Chris Wallace usually ask the toughest questions.
But even him when it comes to the so called centrist,
know a beautiful, lovely, awesome moderate corporate democrat,
tell Republican, tell us how awesome you are, right?
So why didn't he ever ask them?
Isn't it incredibly extreme to be against paid family leave?
Isn't it incredibly extreme to be against higher wages when the American people
obviously want higher wages?
Never, not once, not Chris Wallace, not any other reporter,
they call themselves reporters.
But they've never asked a tough question of the people who actually ruled
this country, which is the people who serve corporations and the donors.
>> And you'd think you'd have enough evidence by pointing to those polls,
to be like, all right, everything that AOC advocates for,
is in line with most people in America.
And that would be enough to say that, everything that she says is not crazy.
But let's look at that shows existence.
The reason that show exists is because, Chris Wallace was on Fox news,
which has leaned into whichever way the wind is blowing.
And said to all of America once, Chris Wallace one time, maybe two times,
maybe three times on that networking dared to say the sky is blue.
>> Yeah. >> Everybody
else out there saying the sky is purple, the sky is purple.
Eyes do see being like, well the purple sky reports coming up after this and
next we're gonna talk about traffic.
Everybody else is the sky is purple, the sky is purple.
They said get out, and because he dared to one time support reality,
CNN is like, come this way sir, you've got your own show here.
And then they imply that everything Chris Wallace does is fair,
because he was just slightly more fair than the wackos on Fox news.
And when he frames all kinds of questions, I watched this interview.
This interview was crazy, insane.
To set up that first question, he shows a poll saying, we asked people, and
37% of people said that the Democrats are too extreme.
And 37% of the 38% of the people said that Republicans are too extreme,
that is the makeup of the parties relative to the population of America.
So Democrats said they're crazy and Republicans said they're crazy.
That has no nothing to do with what most people want.
The stats Jake radio, are what most people want, and
that should be your barometer for seeing who's too extreme and who's not.
But, Chris Wallace undeterred, presses it and he goes on CNN,
the clips that people are passing around are him promoting his show on CNN.
So this is how he sells the people who still watch CNN to go watch his show,
take a look.
>> She does not seem to think or at least is not saying publicly that there needs
to be a course correction in terms of the Democratic Party, which is interesting.
>> No, it is interesting and
she absolutely does not think that there should be a course correction.
I talked to her about the fact that even Republicans said she'd moved too far to
the left.
Some democrats who kept their distance from her in the campaign thought she'd
moved too far to the left.
But for instance, on the issue of inflation where some people are saying,
well look, we need less government spending.
That that stoked demand over supply.
She says, no, we need to go after corporations.
There's been price gouging, there's been windfall profits.
So, she's not talking about cutting back on social programs.
She's talking from a Democratic Socialist point of view, about full speed ahead on
trying to rejigger, our American economy and our American marketplace.
>> This drives me crazy.
This drives me so crazy cuz he loves to get in those words Democratic Socialist.
And someone recently on, I forget what show it was, put a comment in and
they were asking questions.
How do I communicate with my, and
they said boomer parents who are watching CNN, who think that AOC and
everybody, and most people who watch TYT are too extreme and love socialism.
I'd ask you parents, what are the things they love most about their lives,
that the government gives them.
And they'll say Social Security and Medicare,
that is just in line with all the programs like paid family and medical leave,
that is just in line with Universal health care.
That is going to be another program like that one that they like.
Chris Wallace when AOC pointed out the price gouging in that interview,
Chris Wallace literally said, she says, listen.
I understand you're talking about inflation, but
really when I look at the stats.
It is the corporations who are trying to extort people because
they're trying to see how much they're gonna pay for diapers.
And Chris Wallace goes, he literally says,
I'm trying to wrap my head around that one.
That's exactly giant corporations felt like they weren't making enough
profit during the pandemic, they were.
People's demand came back a little bit back to normal even, and
they're trying to make up all the money they lost when we had a pandemic.
They are bilking everyone for every cent they can get out of them.
Meanwhile their profits have not gone down.
And everybody even loves like a windfall profit tax,
and Chris Wallace is there on behalf of corporations to
represent Fox news on the new CNN, and say I can't believe it.
And Kate Baldwin who I normally like is like, "tell me more".
>> No, it's just that what you're see on Chris Wallace news is
100% corporate propaganda.
And that was an excellent example of it, and as always, unlike them,
we're not just gonna say it like " yeah this is it, and then well let's move on",
we're gonna prove it, okay.
So listen to what he said, "AOC is for government services, and not for
corporate price gouging".
Well that part is correct right now, he makes us sound extreme.
But wait is it extreme?
I showed you exit polling on the day of the election, and
I'll just give you two out of the about eight or so polls that I showed you,
which all are on the progressive side.
And they asked people, whose number one issue was inflation,
not the average voter, number one issues inflation.
They're really worried about inflation.
They said should we do it by not raising minimum wage 68%, no, that they said no,
that doesn't make sense.
I want you to raise wages, so you can keep up with inflation.
The same number that you see in the poll I quoted earlier, and then on price
couching the 83% said yeah, it's definitely the corporate price gouging.
And we want you to do something about it.
Yet when you heard on CNN just now you saw it with your own eyes?
He said, that's her Democratic Socialist idea.
But, he said something along the lines that you can, we wanna watch it, about
how that's not how he sees the American economy, and the American marketplace.
As if the pro corporate position is more pro America, when I just showed
you the numbers, and that's not what Americans agree with at all.
So we have the numbers, we have absolute facts, Chris Wallace in CNN doesn't
mention a single fact about what American people actually want, they just tell you.
And it's so subtle, that's why it's, honestly you got to give them credit.
Mainstream media is so much better at this than Fox News.
Fox News is a blunt instrument.
They're just like democrats eat babies, whatever they steal elections, who cares,
who do you don't have to win an election, you just take it, right?
That's dumb, and it works for right wingers and I feel terrible for
right wingers that works for them.
But for other people you have to be more sophisticated, and
the sophisticated way of saying it is never to mention the polling,
never to mention what the American people actually want.
Just tell them, the American marketplace is in favor of cutting government
spending that goes to the average American.
And the American economy is not in favor of regulating corporations at all, right.
That is where the Democratic Socialists.
So, look Chris Wallace, he's the best of him and he sucks.
>> Okay [LAUGH], so, I got more but go ahead max.
>> I'll give Chris Wallace credit for his sleight of hand here,
just because he speaks in a monotone.
He expect you to believe,
that the fact that we're talking about canceling student debt, social spending.
What he's calling for is austerity budgeting,
at a time when corporate profits are the most extreme they have ever been.
And he's hoping you won't notice that that is more extreme than anything AOC or
democrats are even proposing.
And, he's acting like all these things that AOC is proposing are things that
Democrats are voting on and passing.
I wish, but the fact is, Democrats are slow rolling any kind of major spending
legislation, but corporations are not slow rolling those profits.
And Chris Wallace just hopes you'll think that one of those things is normal,
when it is absolutely not.
>> Yeah, look, the last thing I'll say is, go harder,
whether it's AOC or Bernie or any progressive.
Do not let them get away with it.
She questioned his framing great, wonderful right?
But give him numbers, and
challenge him and say you tell me why is it normal that in the midst of inflation
when everybody in Washington is talking about cutting wages.
That you think it's normal for the oil companies to make record profits, and
then pass that all on to the consumers, but
the consumers aren't allowed to get higher wages.
Why is that normal?
Go ahead, I dare you to defend that.
And by the way, when you defend that you'll be the other guys will accidentally
be doing an ad for us.
Because when you want, when you get the CNN, good to go, of course,
no good progressives say you should have higher wages.
Can you believe them?
And the no good progressives, they say that the corporations are making too
much profit when it's they only made a record profit,
this quarter in the quarter before the quarter before.
Can you believe it?
Thank you for the ad.
That's why you got to hit him, but that takes courage.