POWER IN OUR COUNTRY IS NEVER
THREATENED AGAIN.
OUR REPRESENTATIVES OWE THIS
MUCH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
JOINING ME NOW IS ONE OF THE
SIGNATORIES OF THE STATEMENT,
FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY
SECRETARY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA,
JANET NAPOLITANO.
SHE IS ALSO AUTHOR OF "HOW SAFE
ARE WE."
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
TAKE TOOK EXCEPTION TO THE
COMPARISON TO 9/11.
I DONT THINK ANYBODY WAS
COMPARING JANUARY 6th TO 9/11,
BUT THEY WERE COMPARING THE NEED
FOR THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE
ROOT CAUSES OF SOMETHING
TRIGGERED BY A FORM OF
TERRORISM.
THAT WAS DIFFERENT TERRORISM IN
9/11, BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS
THAT THIS GRIEVANCE-BASED
DOMESTIC TERRORISM IS POSING A
BIG THREAT IN AMERICA.
MY THOUGHT WAS FOR REPUBLICANS
IF THEY HAD LOOKED INTO THAT
THREAT, IT COULD ACTUALLY END UP
TAKING ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND DONALD
TRUMP AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
THERES THIS THING UNDERLYING,
THERES THIS UNDERLYING THREAT
IN AMERICA WE NEED TO LOOK AT
AND DISCOURAGE.
>> WELL, WE WILL NEVER NOW.
THERE WONT BE A BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION, AT LEAST AS THINGS
STAND, AND THATS REALLY
UNFORTUNATE.
UNFORTUNATE IS TOO MILD A TERM.
THIS WAS THE MOST SERIOUS ATTACK
ON OUR DEMOCRACY REALLY SINCE
THE ATTACKS OF 9/11, AND ON
9/11, REMEMBER, ONE OF THOSE
PLANES WAS AIMED AT THE CAPITOL
AND BECAUSE OF THE ACTION OF THE
PASSENGERS IT CRASHED IN
PENNSYLVANIA INSTEAD.
ON JANUARY 6th THERE WAS AN
ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL, AND THEY
ACTUALLY GOT INSIDE AND CAUSED
GRIEVOUS INJURIES TO A LOT OF
PEOPLE INCLUDING A LOT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THE PREDICATES FOR IT.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT WAS GOING ON DURING THE
HOURS THAT THEY WERE OCCUPYING
THE CAPITOL, AND WE NEED TO
UNDERSTAND SO THAT WE CAN BETTER
PROTECT AND PREVENT.
>> IN FACT, YOUR POINT IS
WELL-TAKEN.
THERE WAS AN AIRPLANE HEADED
TOWARDS THE UNITED STATES
CAPITOL AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN
THAT THREAT AGAINST THE CAPITOL
SINCE 9/11.
THERES A SERIES OF POLLS THAT
CAME OUT THIS WEEK THAT I JUST
WANT TO SHOW YOU.
THEYRE ABOUT QANON.
15% OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THE
STATEMENT, THE GOVERNMENT, MEDIA
AND FINANCIAL WORLDS IN THE U.S.
ARE CONTROLLED BY A GROUP OF
SATAN WORSHIPPING PEDOPHILES WHO
RUN A GLOBAL SEX TRAFFICKING
OPTION.
23% OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT.
THERES ANOTHER QUESTION THAT
SAID, THERES A STORM COMING
SOON THAT WILL SWEEP AWAY THE
ELITES IN POWER AND RESTORE
RIGHTFUL LEADERS.
20% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT,
28% OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT.
THE STORM IS LANGUAGE THAT IS
USED BY QANON.
THE THIRD QUESTION SAYS, BECAUSE
THINGS HAVE GOTTEN SO FAR OFF
TRACK TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOTS MAY
HAVE TO RESORT TO VIOLENCE TO
SAVE THE COUNTRY.
AGAIN, 15% OF ALL AMERICANS, 28%
OF REPUBLICANS.
THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM
BECAUSE THIS IS NONSENSE THAT
PEOPLE WHO ARE PREPARED TO TAKE
UP ARMS IN SOME CASES BELIEVE.
AGAIN, THERE IS SOMETHING AKIN
TO WHAT WE WERE STUDYING WITH
THE 9/11EN COMMISSION TO COMMISS
PEOPLE BELIEVING CONSPIRACY
THEORIES THAT WILL CAUSE THEM TO
DO HARM TO OTHERS AND AFFECT
DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> FOR SURE.
HOW QANON HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAKE
ROOT AND EVEN GROW, AS THOSE
POLLS INDICATE, IS A HUGE
HOMELAND SECURITY RISK, AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
AND OTHERS NEED TO REALLY GET AT
THE ROOT OF THAT AND SEE WHAT
CAN BE DONE TO DEBUNK SOME OF
THOSE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT
ARE THE HEART OF THE QANON
MANTRA AND TO, IN A WAY,
PREBUNK -- IN OTHER WORDS TO
HELP BETTER PREVENT AMERICANS
FROM FALLING FOR THAT NONSENSE.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
HAPPENED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT,
HOMELAND SECURITY, UNDER THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THAT IT
BECAME COMPLETELY POSSESSED WITH
IMMIGRATION ON THE SOUTHERN
BORDER, YOU KNOW, AND IT WORRIED
ME BECAUSE THATS NOT WHAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT.
WE HAVE REAL THREATS, INCLUDING
WHAT WE JUST SAW IN TERMS OF
THIS ONGOING MICROSOFT HACK, AND
DHS NEEDS TO BE FULLY CONCERNED
WITH THREATS TO HOMELAND
SECURITY OF WHICH THIS 9/11 --
NOT 9/11, JANUARY 6th -- WHAT
THE DEPARTMENT IS CALLING
GRIEVANCE-BASED DOMESTIC
SECURITY IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
DO YOU THINK UNDER JOE BIDEN
THERE CAN BE A SORT OF A RESET
AND A RECALIBRATION OF DHS TO
ACTUALLY BE FOCUSED ON THE
THINGS THAT ARE THREATS TO
SECURITY, NOT, YOU KNOW, A PART
OF THE IMMIGRATION APPARATUS IN
THIS COUNTRY?
>> OH, I THINK THE RESET IS
ALREADY UNDERWAY, AND YOU ARE SO
RIGHT.
UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
DHS SHOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED THE
DEPARTMENT OF THE SOUTHWEST
BORDER.
THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT
THEY APPARENTLY WERE INVOLVED
IN.
NOW, BORDER SECURITY IS PART OF
THE REMIT OF THE DEPARTMENT,
DONT GET ME WRONG.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A FOCUS THERE,
BUT SO MANY OF THESE OTHER RISKS
ARE SO PRESENT AND IN A WAY
DANGEROUS TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE.
YOU NAMED SOME, DOMESTIC
EXTREMISM, CYBERSECURITY,
ATTACKS ON OUR NATIONS CRITICAL
INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE WE SAW WITH
THE COLONIAL PIPELINE ATTACK
JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF NEW AND
EVOLVING RISKS THAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY NEED TO BE
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND CONFRONT
AND MITIGATE SO THAT WE ARE,
INDEED, SAFER.
I FEAR THAT UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION THE COUNTRY
ACTUALLY BECAME LESS SAFE
BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY NOT ONLY WAS
ONLY THE DEPARTMENT OF THE
SOUTHWEST BORDER, BUT IT
SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF STABLE
AND CONTINUOUS LEADERSHIP
THROUGHOUT TRUMPS TERM.
>> SECRETARY NAPOLITANO, GOOD TO