NEIL: LUCAS TOMLINSON, THANK
YOU, MY FRIEND, IS VERY, VERY
MUCH.
WANT TO GO TO’S LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR, WINSOME SEARS.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, VERY GOOD
TO HAVE YOU.
I MOW THERE WERE PROTESTS
OUTSIDE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF
JUSTICES’ HOMES, BUT
PARTICULARLY IN YOUR NECK OF THE
WOODS MANY VIRGINIA, JUDGE
CLARENCE THOMAS’ HOME.
WHAT MEASURES ARE BEING TAKEN TO
KEEP THOSE JUSTICES WHO RESIDE
IN YOUR STATE SAFE?
>> WELL, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE
GOVERNOR AND ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT THAT I WANTED TO KNOW WAS
WHY COULDN’T WE PUT A BLOCKADE
AT THEIR HOME, YOU KNOW, RIGHT
AT THE STREETS, AND HE LET ME
KNOW THAT, AS GOVERNOR, HE
DIDN’T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY.
BUT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS
THAT AUTHORITY, AND THEY REFUSE
TO DO SO.
AND OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL
COULDN’T DO SOME OF THOSE THINGS
EITHER BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HAVE
THE AUTHORITY.
HE WOULD BE DISBARRED.
SO WE’RE ACTUALLY A NATION OF
LAWS, A STATE OF LAWS, AND SO
WE’RE EXPECTING THE LOCAL
GOVERNMENT TO HELP.
NOW, WHERE JUSTICE CLARENCE
THOMAS LIVES, IT ISES A PRIVATE
STREET, SO HE CAN BLOCK THERE.
BUT, HOOK ARE, THIS IS ABOUT
PROTECTING THE INNOCENT.
IT’S ALWAYS ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
IF IT’S NOT ANYTHING ELSE.
SO WE HAVE TO INSURE THAT WE
PROTECT THE LIVES OF THE
ELDERLY, WE DON’T SAY, NO,
THEY’VE LIVED ALL THE GOOD YEARS
AND IT’S TIME FOR THEM TO MOVE
ON AND SO WE PULL THE PLUG, AND
WE DON’T DO IT FOR CHILDREN WHO
ARE BORN WITH DISABILITIES.
NO.
WE PROTECT THEM.
EVERY LIFE IS IMPORTANT.
AND SO THAT’S WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT.
AND I DON’T WANT IT TO GO DOWN
IN HISTORY THAT I AS THE
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DID NOT
PROTECT LIVES OF THE UNBORN.
NEIL: HAVING SAID THAT THEN,
GOVERNOR YOUNGKIN HAS SAID THAT,
YOU KNOW, HE’S LOOKING AT AN
ABORTION LAW THAT WOULD STOP
ABORTIONS AT 15 WEEKS, MORE THAN
15 WEEKS.
HE’S TALKING AS WELL WITH A
NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS,
ANTI-ABORTIONISTS, ALL, WHO IN
ORDER TO MAYBE GET MORE VOTES
FOR THAT, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR,
HE MIGHT BRING IT UP TO 20
WEEKS.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT
STANDS?
>> WELL, WE’RE NOT, YOU KNOW,
BACK IN SESSION YET.
THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL BE WHEN
WE COME BACK IN JANUARY.
WE’LL BE BACK IN SEPTEMBER, BUT
I DON’T THINK WE’RE GOING TO BE
DECIDING ANY OF THAT IN
SEPTEMBER, SO IT’LL BE JANUARY.
SO LEGISLATION IS BEING CRAFTED
RIGHT NOW AT THE 15-WEEK MARK.
AND, BY THE WAY, CURRENTLY
VIRGINIA, THE ABORTION YOU CAN
HAVE UP TO 25 WEEKS.
FOLKS, IN CHINA THEY LIMIT IT TO
24 WEEKS.
CHINA.
IN FACT, IN SPAIN I BELIEVE IT’S
14 WEEKS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE’RE MORE LIBERAL
IN VIRGINIA THAN SOME OF THE
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AND EVEN
CHINA.
AND SO WE ARE GOING TO TRY OUR
VERY BEST BECAUSE LET’S THINK
ABOUT WHAT’S HAPPENING AT 15
WEEKS.
BABY IS STARTING TO SUCK IN THE
WOMB, THE BABY IS STARTING TO DO
TURMOILS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS
IN THIS WOMB.
AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS, WHAT IS
THE MOTHER HAVING?
IT’S NOT A LIZARD, IT IS A BABY.
SHE’S HAVING A HUMAN BABY.
AND THE DEMOCRATS WENT TOO FAR
SO MANY YEARS, WHAT, 2, 3 YEARS
AGO WHEN DELEGATE KATHY TRAN
HERE IN VIRGINIA PROPOSED
LEGISLATION, LAW THAT YOU CAN
HAVE THE BABY UP UNTIL THE TIME
THAT THE BABY’S SUPPOSE SUPPOSED
TO BE BORN AND HAVE THAT
ABORTION, UP UNTIL THAT TIME.
AND THEN WE HAD GOVERNOR
NORTHAM, A PEDIATRICIAN, FOLKS,
A PEDIATRICIAN WHO SAID THAT,
YES, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE THE
BABY AFTER THE ABORTION AND
RESUSCITATE THE INFANT, WE’LL
KEEP THE INFANT COMFORTABLE
UNTIL THE MOTHER DECIDES WHAT TO
DO.
HEAVENS, MAN, WHAT ARE YOU
TALKING ABOUT?
THE BABY IS ALREADY HERE.
WHAT KIND OF A SOCIETY WOULD WE
BE IF THE BABIES ON THE ABORTION
TABLE STRUGGLING FOR LIFE AND WE
TURN ASIDE?
NO, WE’RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
WE’RE GOING TO BRECHT THE
INNOCENT.
CONCERN PROTECT THE INNOCENT --
NEIL: SO IN THAT --
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I UNDERSTAND.
AND YOU’RE QUITE RIGHT, I MEAN,
THERE ARE FAR STRICTER ABORTION
STANDARDS ABROAD.
IN FACT, FRANCE WON’T ALLOW
ABORTIONS AFTER 16 WEEKS.
SPAIN, 14 WEEKS.
ARGENTINA, 14 WEEKS.
FINLAND, 12.
ITALY, 12.
UKRAINE, 12.
RUSSIA, 12.
SO YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT,
GOVERNOR.
I DID WANT TO EXE EMPLOYER SOME
OF -- EXPLORE SOME OF THESE
OTHER STATES THAT ARE ALREADY
IMPLEMENTING SO-CALLED TRIGGER
ANTI-ABORTION LAWS.
IN THE CASE OF TEXAS AND SOME
OTHERS, THAT OUTLAW ARE IT FROM
THE POINT OF
FERTILIZATION/CONCEPTION MORE OR
LESS.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THOSE
EFFORTS?
>> WELL, I HAVE NO AUTHORITY IN
THOSE STATES.
I WAS ELECTED IN VIRGINIA.
THE PEOPLE IN THOSE STATES WILL
MAKE THAT DECISION.
I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND
THIS.
OSTENSIBLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS
TRIED TO DO IS TO USE THE
PROBLEMS AND THE HISTORICAL
GRIEVANCES THAT BLACK PEOPLE
HAVE FACED TO ADVANCE THEIR
NEFARIOUS WITH AGENDA.
IT IS A NEFARIOUS AGENDA.
BUT LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED
EVER SINCE ROE.
WELL, I’M GOING TO LOOK AT SOME
STATISTICS HERE.
IN VIRGINIA THE BLACK POPULATION
IS 19-20%.
2019, 15,000 PLUS ABORTIONS WERE
DONE.
46% OF THEM WERE DONE BY BLACK
WOMEN.
NOW, IF THE KKK HAD SAID WE WILL
PAY FOR EVERY BLACK WOMAN TO
HAVE AN ABORTION WHO WANTS ONE,
WE WOULD SAY TO OURSELVES, WAIT
A MINUTE, SOMETHING SOMETHING’S
UP.
WHY DON’T THEY WANT US TO HAVE
OUR BABIES?
BUT YOU SEE THAT WE DON’T
UNDERSTAND WHAT’S GOING ON, AND
SO WE’RE LOSING SO MANY BLACK
LIVES THAT MATTER.
SO, FOLKS, WE’VE GOT TO
UNDERSTAND, WE’VE GOT TO
UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO PROTECT
THE INNOCENT, WE NEED TO PROTECT
THE BABIES IN THE WORLD NO
MATTER WHAT RACE, NO MATTER WHAT
COLOR, NO MATTER ANYTHING.
THERE ARE SOME EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES, YOU KID NAME SOME
COUNTRIES THAT ARE LESS LENIENT
THAN WE ARE WITH THE ABORTION
TIME LIMIT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME EUROPEAN
NATIONS THERE AREN’T EVEN BORN
BABIES WHO HAVE DOWNS SYNDROME.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN AMERICA WHO
HAVE DOWNS SYNDROME.
IF THEY LIVED IN SOME OF THESE
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, THEY WOULD
NEVER HAVE BEEN BORN.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS IF WE
DON’T PROTECT THE INNOCENT, ONE
DAY IT WILL BE OUR TURN.
IF YOU CAN’T COUNT ON YOUR
GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT THE
INNOCENT, YOU WILL BE NEXT.
ONE THING WE LEARN FROM HISTORY
IS WE DON’T LEARN FROM HISTORY
AND, UNFORTUNATELY, IT SEEMS
WE’RE CONDEMNED TO REPEAT OUR
MISTAKES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
NEIL: SO VERY QUICKLY,
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR -- I
APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE
FINISH MIKE PENCE HAS SAID THERE
OUGHT TO BE A LAW AGAINST
ABORTIONS, PERIOD.
THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> I’M SORRY, I DIDN’T HEAR THAT
PART.
THERE IS A LAW.
NEIL: MIKE PENCE WANTS A LAW TO
OUTLAW ABORTIONS, PERIOD.
>> NO.
I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO
AT LEAST INSURE THE LIFE AND THE
HEALTH OF THE MOTHER.
I CAN’T ASK A WOMAN TO SACRIFICE
HER LIFE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF SHE HAS CANCER
AND SHE NEEDS TREATMENT AND
MAYBE THAT TREATMENT WILL RESULT
IN THE DEATH OF HER CHILD, I
CAN’T ASK HER TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
HER LIFE AND THE LIFE OF THE
CHILD AT THAT POINT.
THAT NECESSARILY IS A
DIFFERENCE.
SO I BELIEVE ALSO A, YOU KNOW,
IN TERMS OF RAPE AND INCEST.
BUT CERTAINLY, MOST OF THESE
ABORTIONS IT’S NOT RAPE, IT’S
NOT INCEST.
WE’RE GIVING OUR CHILDREN TO THE
GOD OF MY CAREER.
WE’RE GIVING OUR CHILDREN TO THE
GOD OF I CAN’T AFFORD THIS BABY.
WE’RE GIVING OUR CHILDREN TO THE
GOD OF IT’S NOT THE RIGHT TIME
YET.
OR I’M TOO OLD FOR THIS.
WHATEVER GOD YOU CHOOSE.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW,
REALLY, NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION
YOU HAVE, AT SOME POINT YOU KNOW
IN YOUR HEART THAT THIS IS A
BABY, A BABY IN THE WOMB.
AND THE BABY IN THE WOMB WANTS
TO LIVE.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT.
GOVERNOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR TAKING THE TIME.
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE