MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT IS THE TOP DEMOCRAT IN THE UNITED
STATES SENATE.
YOU KNOW HIM AS "CHUCK" FROM "CHUCK & NANCY."
( LAUGHTER ) PLEASE WELCOME SENATOR CHUCK
SCHUMER!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) ( BAND PLAYING )
>> Stephen: PRETTY GOOD STUFF, HUH?
>> OH, THEY'RE GREAT.
>> Stephen: THEY ARE.
HAPPY MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. DAY TO YOU, SENATOR.
>> TO YOU, TO EVERYBODY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE
HERE TONIGHT.
THIS BOOK IS KIZMET AS MY PEOPLE WOULD SAY.
HOW'S YOUR FRIEND DONALD TRUMP?
>> GETTING WORSE EVERY DAY.
>> Stephen: THE BUZZ IS YOU GUYS CAN TALK A LANGUAGE THAT HE
CAN UNDERSTAND, THAT HE LIKES.
YOU ACTUALLY SAID OFF MIC ON C-SPAN, HE LIKES ME ANYWAY, IT'S
GOING TO WORK OUT.
>> ONE OF MY WRONG PREDICTIONS.
>> Stephen: THIS WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
>> THIS WAS A WHILE AGO.
HE WOULD START OUT BY FLATTERING ME.
THAT DIDN'T WORK, SO HE TRIED TO CALL ME NAMES.
NEITHER WORKS.
WE STICK BY OUR VALUES.
THEY'RE VERY FAR AWAY FROM WHERE DONALD TRUMP'S VALUES ARE AND
FRANKLY FROM WHERE MOST OF AMERICA'S VALUES ARE AND WE'RE
STANDING STRONG AND WE'RE THE CHECK ON DONALD TRUMP.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT
HISTORIANS WILL CALL S-HOLE-GATE FROM LAST THURSDAY.
( LAUGHTER ) A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THIS
AFTERNOON, HE TWEETED SENATOR DICKEY DURBIN TOTALLY
MISREPRESENTED WHAT I SAID AT THE DACA MEETING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT SENATOR DURBIN IS TELLING THE
TRUTH WHEN HE SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT SAID REPEATEDLY WHY DO
WE NEED PEOPLE FROM -- >> I HAVE NO DOUBT.
FIRST, DONALD TRUMP HAS LIED SO MANY TIMES IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE
HIM ON ANYTHING LET ALONE THIS, BUT SECOND, I'VE KNOWN DICK
DURBIN FOR 35 YEARS.
HE WAS MY ROOMMATE FOR 20 YEARS.
WE SHARED A LITTLE ROW HOUSE.
HE'S ONE OF THE MOST HONORABLE PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.
I NEVER HAVE KNOWN HIM TO LIE.
I TOTALLY BELIEVE DICK DURBIN AND I THINK MOST AMERICANS DO,
TOO.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: MANY PEOPLE LOOK
AT THIS THE AND WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID AND JUST
SAID, OKAY, WELL, DONALD TRUMP IS A RACIST.
DO YOU THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP IS A RACIST?
>> LOOK, HIS COMMENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN CAN BE
DESCRIBED AS NOTHING BUT RACIST AND OBNOXIOUS.
HE SAYS HE'S NOT A RACIST.
WELL -- >> Stephen: HE'S THE LEAST
RACIST PERSON -- >> THE LEAST RACIST PERSON YOU
WOULD EVER SPEAK TO.
>> Stephen: OF ALL TIME.
O I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR DONALD TRUMP, OKAY, ACTIONS
SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
IF YOU WANT TO JUST BEGIN THE LONG ROAD BACK TO PROVING YOU'RE
NOT RACIST OR BIGOTED, SUPPORT THE BIPARTISAN COMPROMISE THREE
DEMOCRATS AND THREE REPUBLICANS PUT ON THE FLOOR, EVERYONE GAVE,
AND GET THE DREAMERS SAFETY HERE IN AMERICA.
THAT'S WHAT HE SHOULD DO.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) AND LET ME SAY THIS, STEPHEN --
THAT BILL -- DONALD TRUMP AT ONE POINT SAID, WELL, THERE ARE
THREE AREAS OF CONTENTION.
THE THREE OF THEM, THE SIX OF THEM, TRIED TO GO SOMEWHAT IN
HIS DIRECTION ON THOSE THREE AREAS IN RETURN FOR DREAMERS.
IF THIS BILL DOESN'T BECOME LAW, THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE THING
STANDING IN HIS WAY AND THAT'S DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
INTRANSIGENCE.
IF IT WAS PUT ON THE FLOOR IN THE HOUSE OR THE SENATE IT WOULD
GET A MAJORITY VOTE IN EITHER ONE.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE HIS INTRANSIGENCE OR DO YOU
THINK HE'S JUST BEING PRESSURED BY THE FARTHEST RIGHT ON
IMMIGRATION POLICY IN HIS OWN PARTY?
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THE FARTHEST RIGHT, WE WILL NOT
HAVE AN IMMIGRATION PARTY.
YOU CAN'T GET A SMALL GROUP ON THE EXTREME GOVERN, IT'S A
FORMULA FOR FAILURE.
>> Stephen: WHAT'S HE LIKE TO NEGOTIATE WITH?
>> OH!
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: BECAUSE YOU HAVE
BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH HIM FOR MONTHS.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: YOU'VE KNOWN HIM FROM BACK IN NEW YORK.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN EXPERT NEGOTIATE.
>> OH -- >> Stephen: ART OF THE DEAL,
MY FRIEND.
DO YOU SEE THE ART IN HIS DEALMAKING?
>> THE ART OF FAILURE IN ABOUT EVERY DEAL HE MAKES.
HE HAS TWO WAYS OF NEGOTIATING.
ONE, HE'LL SHAKE YOUR HAND AND THE NEXT DAY TOTALLY BACK OFF.
NANCY PELOSI AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND I HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH HIM
ON DREAMERS FOR BORDER SECURITY.
HE AGREED.
THE NEXT DAY GOT PRESSURE FROM THE HARD RIGHT AND BACKED OFF.
THAT'S WHAT HE DOES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE OTHER WAY IS SAYING "HERE'S HOW I WANT IT, YOU DO IT MY WAY
OR ELSE."
HE WASN'T A GOOD NEGOTIATE IN REAL ESTATE DEALS IN NEW YORK
AND ONE OF THE MANY REASONS HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN A
FAILURE SO FAR IS HE'S A POOR NEGOTIATOR BECAUSE HE USES ONLY
ONE OF THOSE TWO TACTICS.
>> Stephen: THE WORD IS WHEN YOU AND NANCY PELOSI MET HIM IS
YOU PLAYED ON HIS LOVE OF NEW YORK AND GOT ON HIS GOOD
SIDE.
WE ACTUALLY MANAGED TO GET A CAMERA INTO THAT MEETING WITH
OUR FRIENDS FROM SHOWTIME FROM OUR SHOW COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS,
WE HAVE A CLIP OF OUR CAMERAS CATCHING THE THREE OF YOU
NEGOTIATING.
JIM?
>> JUST KNOW YOU CAN'T SOFTEN ME UP WITH A BUNCH OF NEW YORK
TALK.
>> OF COURSE NOT, MR. PRESIDENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT -- NEW YORK.
>> WHAT ABOUT IT?
I WAS TAKING THE STATEN ISLAND FERRY THE OTHER DAY.
>> EMPIRE STATE BUILDING.
HUDSON RIVER.
KATZ'S DELI.
TRAIN TRACK.
CENTRAL PARK.
FIVE!
>> Stephen: ACCURATE?
ON THE MONEY.
LEFT OUT ONE THING, BROOKLYN!
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I TOTALLY GET IT.
NOW, LET ME ASK YOU, THERE'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT BUT
HAS TO DO WITH THE CHANGING SENATE.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE DEMOCRATS WILL TAKE THE SENATE?
>> YES.
>> Stephen: ARE YOU CONFIDENT THEY WILL TAKE IT BACK?
>> WE'RE WORKING REAL HARD AT IT AND I THINK THE ODDS ARE GREATER
THAN HALF WE'LL TAKE BACK THE SENATE, ABSOLUTELY.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: AND THE HOUSE --
I THINK THE HOUSE ODDS ARE VERY GOOD, TOO.
>> Stephen: MM-HMM.
IN PART, WE HAVE A REAL FRIEND IN TAKING BACK THE HOUSE
AND SENATE, DONALD TRUMP.
>> Stephen: RIGHT, BUT DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL THEN BE VOTING
FOR DEMOCRATS OR AGAINST DONALD TRUMP?
AND I MEAN THIS SINCERELY -- >> YES, YOU DO.
>> Stephen: THIS YEAR WHAT DOES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY STAND
FOR?
>> SO, LOOK, WE HAVE TO BE A STRONG CHECK AGAINST TRUMP BUT
THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT.
WE HAVE TO SHOW AVERAGE FOLKS WE'RE ON THEIR SIDE WHILE TRUMP
IS ON THE SIDE OF THE WEALTHY AND POWERFUL INTERESTS.
IF WE DO BOTH, WE'LL TAKE BACK THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
>> Stephen: WELL, YOU LOST ONE OF THE STARS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE BIGGEST FUNDRAISERS OF THE
DEMOCRATS IN AL FRANKEN.
>> YES.
>> Stephen: LOOKING BACK ON HOW THAT WAS HANDLED, THAT
FRANKEN WAS ASKED TO RESIGN AGAINST HIS WILL, AS YOU CAN
TELL FROM THE SPEECH HE GAVE, BEFORE THE ETHICS INVESTIGATION
WAS OVER.
DO YOU FEEL THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO?
>> WELL, LOOK, I AM A STRONG BELIEVER IN #METOO.
WOMEN HAVE BEEN ABUSED, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN SO MANY
DIFFERENT WAYS THAT I THINK THAT A STRONG STAND IN THAT REGARD IS
VERY IMPORTANT.
YOU CAN LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE, AS YOU SHOULD, AND PEOPLE
SHOULD GET SOME PROTECTIONS, BUT I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF SYMPATHY
FOR THE WOMEN WHO SAY THIS HAS GONE ON TOO LONG AND WE HAVE TO
BE REALLY STRONG TO FIGHT IT ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>> Stephen: WELL, SENATOR SCHUMER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.