when look we've talked about this before
shannon sharp
and his great podcast you know club shay
shay
he's talking to tony dungy about some of
the toughest quarterbacks that dungey
has faced in his career
and dungey made the point very clearly
that he has been challenged by
quarterbacks who can move around in the
pocket
so those quarterbacks who can move like
john elway
uh aaron rodgers those guys
just really get his attention more than
those who stand in the pocket and just
sling it like tom brady so he put
tom brady at number six on his list of
most difficult opponents to face
tom brady of course
tries to clap back by tweeting out
a picture of the
indianapolis colts in their 2014 afc
finalist banner that they actually
that's not photoshop they actually did
hang that in lucas oil stadium shame on
them
kill me hanging that afc finalist banner
up there
uh of course the the facts don't always
align don't let the facts get in the way
of a good tweet
of a good burn so tony dungy
is a former colts coach when he was not
coaching the colts in 2014
uh chuck pagano was uh
and so yeah i know i know but mike i
like the pettiness of it
i like the pettiness nah i do i don't
know that's like that that's yes
that's the equivalent that's the
equivalent of a touchdown pass
that gets called back because of holding
it was a pretty pass
it's a great play it doesn't count
doesn't count
like you can't you can't try to burn
tony dungy
and have your facts wrong like nah that
that also it's all set
it offsets the tweet
by the fact that tony was not coaching a
2014 coach he's not a journalist he's
just a dude having he's just a dude
sitting next to another dude having an
argument he's having an argument whether
it's
well i don't know if brady look i don't
know if brady is the one that sent the
tweet or not maybe it was somebody
managing
brady is brady is the goat social media
athlete he's incredible at social media
he know he has an incredible social
media team
that helps him with his social media
so i don't know if it was him or
somebody else that hit sin but whoever
it was
that thought that they were roasting
tony dungeon is swung and missed
and i'm just saying that brady played
against tony dungy he played in all
those games he knows that tony dungy or
he should know that tony dungy had
nothing to do with the 2014 colts
or the decision to hang that banner so
it's an a for effort
but he missed he was incomplete
you're being too literal on this you got
to be
this is no nobody's literal on on
on the rivalry what he's really speaking
to with literal on twitter
they're there with literally
have you ever misspelled anything on
twitter michael holly always
of course have you ever got enough of
that on twitter okay
you know how it goes that's just the way
it goes
look this this tweet speaks to the
rivalry
that has been rarely acknowledged is
rarely uh
talked about honestly and and tom
brady's been guilty of this too
there was a cult there was there is
a colts patriots rivalry that
um that few of the principles just
really get into
like if i talk to tony dungy who we all
love colleague he's great
i'll talk to tony dungy and we just
really get down just really get down
okay for real for real
how do you feel about bill belichick
he's he's not crazy about bill belichick
bill belichick is not crazy about tony
dungy yeah they're not exactly tony
tom brady and peyton manning claim to be
great friends and they hang out and all
this stuff
but when we saw tom brady's emails leak
one of his friends talked about peyton
the payton rivalry he said yeah well
his career is almost over i got a lot
more left than me okay this is right
there in this emails
bill polian can't stand the patriots he
hated the patriots so much
he didn't even call him the patriots he
called the patriots why
just because brother just wanted to mess
up
their names i think i think that's just
how he talks but okay but nonetheless
you're right they hated
each other i know patriots they hate
each other they hate each other
and this is what it's all about it it's
tom brady heard
that and instead of saying oh you're on
the 2014 colts
no he's saying he's trying to say you're
a cult
you're you're one of them of course you
think that but
whatever go ahead and hang your banner
organization it wasn't really a tony
dungy it's at the organization
okay okay sure if you want to if you
want to grade on the curve
okay sure that he's guilty by
association
that's fair but i'll tell you what's
amazing
can i tell you what's amazing though
yeah
that tom brady is out here uh in these
social media streets
at age 43 still doing the same still
holding his own
like he feels empowered to do this kind
of stuff talk about not only to talk
about yesterday
yesteryear but how about right now
right now tom brady uh still getting it
done and
can you i have to stat the staff you
know this because you covered the
patriots in your other life
tom a healthy tom brady has made the
playoffs
16 for 16 straight seasons
16 straight seasons a healthy tom brady
has been in the postseason
and if the bucks make the playoffs this
year which they should
they make the playoffs this year that
means the 17
for brady and that he helps the bucks
stop a streak
that they've had since 2007 that is
missing the playoffs so it's almost like
complete opposites tom brady comes in he
brings winning to your organization
and he just turns things around so when
you want to talk about great
quarterbacks i'm not saying you want to
but if you want to like say if you want
to have like a aaron rodgers tom brady
conversation
it's like things like this
i know you're not trying to have this
conversation neither am i
neither am i i'm just pointing out
michael smith mr michael smith i'm just
pointing out
that these are the things
that make a quarterback great this is
true
greatness he bring he comes into your
organization and then everything
oh that light didn't work before oh it
works now
oh i thought that guy was dismissed oh
he's viable now tom brady comes into
your organization things just work
better
things just work
like that light line was funny i liked
it that made me chuckle
i laughed that like oh that light works
now that was fun
um you know i'll uh i actually
i'm not gonna say even in debate i want
to go back and hate me so much
sometimes we really really want to be
honest
sometimes i know i know you do
that's why i want to go back to the
tweet i want to go back to the tweet
um all right because okay forget about
the forget about the specifics of
the banner and who coached when
uh does brady have a point because
tony dungy as usual his point was well
articulated
and it was logical and he was clear he
wasn't ranking the greatest quarterbacks
of all time
he was strictly talking about from a
defensive preparation perspective
the hardest guys to prepare for are the
ones who make things happen
off schedule that's it's it's football
it's
it's x's and o's it's inside baseball or
inside football talk
that's what that was yeah so he was
talking about mobile quarterbacks
dual threat quarterbacks who are all the
play breaks down
yes every now everybody's got to respond
to something and not even necessarily
dual threat quarterbacks from a lamar
jackson's you know standpoint but uh
a steve young you know how the regard of
steve young i had for him
steve or aaron rodgers or john elway who
could scramble and extend plays
you know again off schedule stuff so he
didn't say anything offensive
however if you're tom brady
i kind of get why that would rub you the
wrong way why that would grind your
gears
because you've heard your whole career
how immobile you are and how limited
athletically you are you've heard people
try to qualify
your greatness and your accomplishments
like what about tom brady
if you're tom brady you're sitting back
and somebody's saying
with a straight face that aaron rodgers
is more difficult to prepare for
yet all you've done is throw for more
yards
more touchdowns than just about
everybody i mean drew brees trade
records
you've won more super bowls you've won
more you are the goat
whether you are whether you whether you
run fast or not i don't know how fast
goats are
but he's the goat what does it matter
if i'm tom brady i'm thinking what does
it matter whether or not
you know i extend plays my plays
end in touchdowns and my games end and
wins
so to speak so i get why tom brady would
feel compelled to clap back
because however you wanted to find a
difficult task
nobody's harder than the guy to whom
everybody
including more often than not tony
dungy's colts
nobody's more difficult to defend or to
prepare for
than the guy you always lose to it's
kind of that simple
however he gets it done stylistically
doesn't matter the results speak for
themselves
so if i'm braiding this i get why he
would i get why he's like
what more difficult to prepare for as
many times i've cooked you and everybody
else
whether it's from the pocket or outside
the pocket i'm the most difficult to
prepare for by virtue of being the
greatest ever player position
excuse me the most accomplished ever
player position i beg your pardon i'm
not giving you you know you know where i
stand on that but go ahead
okay you slipped you slipped hey like
couple more sips of that eggnog you
right there
so i caught myself a couple more sips
you're right where i need you to be
uh greatest of all time you almost said
it uh no he's still a good you know he's
the greatest he's the greatest
he's the greatest no he's great but he's
not the best stepper plated position
it's a slight nuance there okay
all right um all everything you said
there
is true i think what so
i can see that being brady's perspective
and brady's mentality
almost like uh that that gift that
jordan gift
and i took that personally i took it
personally
and i took that person everything um
but he wouldn't have taken it personally
and he wouldn't have responded that way
if
any other coach from that era had
commented
it was tony dungy commenting that got
under his skin
like if pete carroll said if if pete
carroll's there with shannon sharp hey
who was the toughest uh
quarterback she was oh he would he would
have put oh he would have easily or
whoever does his twitter
would have posted a picture of him on
one knee was what super bowl was that
was that
it was a super bowl uh of a 49 it was 49
yeah
him on one knee you know basically pose
victory formation
like he would have found something
because he's got the receipts i don't
know everybody he
found something but i don't know i don't
know if it's just
it's just like that tony dungy
and the colts it's just the right
it's that there's beef there's it is
there's difference
and it's interesting it's almost like um
it is it's it's celtics lakers
it's got that kind of thing you know
giants dodgers
there's just nothing a little bit a
little bit
oh it's a little bit that forgot do you
remember i would
let me this is talking about being off
script do you remember when
josh mcdaniels decided to go to accept
the head coaching job with indianapolis
and then changed his mind do you
remember what chris ballard said
some of the rivalries back on rivalry's
alive something like that oh okay
it's still there even though those
characters are long gone manny's gone
brady's
brady was still there when he said it
but manny was long gone
yeah chris ballard wasn't there for
those those tough
colts patriots games
but it's kind of in the woodwork
i love it girl i love it man i love when
people are no it was fine
that was fun kind of hold on to some
long after long after the event has
passed
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