Speaker 1: We have a voicemail number. That number is 2192. David P, here is a caller who says
if Trump thinks that by running for president again, he'll avoid getting indicted. He is
wrong. This is the opinion of the caller. Speaker 5: Trump is talking about running
for president to avoid being indicted. There's no that's not going to work.
Merrick Garland is not going to stop any indictments or investigations just because he
declares that he's running for president. His only option is to move to another country that does not
extradite. Extradite. And he'd have to stay there for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, listen, I generally agree that Trump running for president is not going to
prevent an indictment. However, it is completely plausible that if there is an indictment
forthcoming against Donald Trump and Donald Trump is again the sitting president, it's after January
of 2025. Trump won in November 24, is sworn in in 25, and then the indictment comes forward.
I do believe that Donald Trump will at least have a reasonable attempt to make to say, no,
no, no, no, no, I'm the president. I can't be dealing with this right now. He used it
while president the first time around to avoid having to testify and respond to requests from
various women who had filed lawsuits against Donald Trump. So he will absolutely do that.
But to the extent that Trump wants to. From what we're told, get out of legal trouble in terms of
indictment by announcing his candidacy. I agree that that's not going to do anything. That's not
going to work. Now, whether there's actually any charges forthcoming remains to be seen. We
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