WEEK IN SOUTH FLORIDA. >> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING. I’M GLENNA MILBERG.
A LOT TO GET TO THIS HOUR.
WE BEGIN WITH THE FIRST STEP
THIS WEEK FOR FLORIDA TO BECOME
THE 26th STATE IN THE NATION
TO ALLOW PERMITFREE CONCEALED
CARRY OF FIRE ARMS AND OTHER
WEAPONS.
THE BILL FILED IN THE FLORIDA
HOUSE THIS WEEK WOULD MAKE GUN
PURCHASE AND OWNERSHIP ALMOST
RULEFREE FOR LAW-ABIDING
CITIZENS 21 AND OLDER.
THE HOUSE SPEAKER CALLED IT
REMOVING THE GOVERNMENT
PERMISSION SLIP, TAKING AWAY
BACKGROUND CHECKS,
FINGERPRINTING AND ANY SORT OF
FIRE ARM SAFETY TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS.
SUPPORTERS SAY IT RESTORES
SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO
LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS, OPPONENTS
SAY IT IS PUTTING POLITICS OVER
PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE HEAR TAKE A PARTISANFREE
APPROACH AND WE DIG INTO BOTH
PERSPECTIVES TO FLESH OUT WHAT
TO EXPECT AND WE BEGIN RIGHT
THERE WITH STATE REP RANDY FINE,
REPUBLICAN FROM BRAVARD COUNTY,
ONE-OF-THE SPONSORS OF THE
FLORIDA CONCEALED CARRY BILL.
IT IS SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU
ABOARD.
GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
YOU CAN’T SEE US BUT WE CAN SEE
YOU.
>> I CAN SEE YOU AND I’M HAPPY
TO BE HERE.
>> OKAY, AWESOME.
ALL RIGHT, THIS BILL IS,
SHOULDN’T BE A SURPRISE TO
ANYONE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE
THE GOVERNOR AND HOUSE LEADER
SHIRP HAVE BEEN TELEGRAPHING IT
IS COMING AND ARE VERY
SUPPORTIVE, START US OUT BY
FRAMING, WHY DO WE NEED THIS
BILL?
>> 25 OTHER STATES HAVE IT RIGHT
NOW.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
EVERY STATE HAS PERMITLESS
CARRY, THEY JUST HAVE IT FOR
CRIMINALS.
HAVING GUN LAWS DOESN’T CREATE
MAGIC FORCE FIELDS THAT MAKE
PEOPLE DO THINGS.
TODAY CRIMINALS CARRY GUN WAS
PERMITS ALL OVER THE STATE.
ALL WE’RE PROPOSING TO DO IS
GIVE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS THE
SAME RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS THAT
CRIMINALS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
>> SO THE MOST OPPOSITION THAT
WE HAVE HEARD COVERING, SINCE
THE BILL WAS FILED ON MONDAY WAS
THE COMPONENT THAT SORT OF TAKES
OUT ANY SORT OF TRAINING
REQUIREMENT, TO YOUR POINT, WE
DON’T KNOW WHICH CRIMINALS ARE
TRAINED ON GUNS OR NOT.
BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A REAL FEAR
THAT PEOPLE NOW CAN JUST BUY
GUNS AND GO OUT THERE AND
CONCEAL THEM AND USE THEM
WITHOUT HAVING ANY SORT OF
PROFICIENCY TRAINING.
AND TO REQUIRE THAT SORT OF
TAKES AWAY THE SPIRIT OF THE
LAW.
BUT IS THERE SOME COMPROMISE
THAT CAN BE MADE THERE?
>> WELL, I WOULD REMIND PEOPLE
THAT NOTHING ABOUT THIS BILL
CHANGES THE PERMITTING
REQUIREMENT TO PURCHASE A GUN.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU
ACTUALLY GOT WRONG IN YOUR
UPFRONT STATEMENT.
WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO BUY A
BEGIN, THAT DOESN’T CHANGE BUT
CARRYING THAT GUN, ONCE YOU’VE
GONE THROUGH THAT FULL
BACKGROUND CHECK, YOU WILL NOT
NEED A GOVERNMENT PERMISSION
SLIP FOR.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD NOTE THAT
TODAY CRIMINALS ARE NOT REQUIRED
TO GO AND GET TRAINING, WHATEVER
TRAINING THE LEFT WANTS IN ORDER
TO CARRY THOSE GUNS.
WE’RE SIMPLY CREATING AN EVEN
PLAYING FIELD AND STANDING WITH
THE RIGHTS OF LAW-ABIDING
CITIZENS.
OUR OPPONENTS ON THE OTHER HAND
UNFORTUNATELY WANT TO GIVE
CRIMINALS SPECIAL RIGHTS THAT
LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS DON’T HAVE.
>> WE WILL BE TALKING TO ONE OF
THOSE OPPONENTS IN OUR NEXT
SEGMENT.
I SUSPECT THAT STATE REP CHRIS
TEEN-- DOESN’T WANT TO GIVE
CRIMINAL RIGHTS BUT WE WILL ASK
THAT FOR SHEUMPLET I WANT TO GO
BACK TO THE TRAINING COMPONENT.
WE WERE AT A GUN RANGE WITH AN
INSTRUCTOR THIS WEEK, WEARING A
SHIRT PROUDLY DISPLAYING HIS NRA
AFFILIATION.
AND HE SAID HE FULLY SUPPORTS
THIS LAW BUT FOR THE LACK OF
TRAINING.
HE THOUGHT SAFETY TRAINK, SAFE
STORAGE TRAINING WAS CRITICAL.
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO AN NRA
INSTRUCTOR WHO COMES OUT WITH
THAT KIND OF CONCERN?
>> WELL, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO
GET TRAINING, BOTH OF MY BOYS
ARE BOY SCOUTS AND THEY HAVE HAD
EXTENSIVE GUN TRAINING AS PART
OF WHAT THEY DO TO BECOME
SCOUTS.
WE’RE NOT AGAINST TRAINING.
I THINK RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS
SHOULD DO THAT.
BUT I THINK THIS GUN TRAINING
MANTRA IS BEING USED AS A RED
HERRING TO SIMPLY COME UP WITH
EXCUSES AND BARRIERS TO AGAIN
PUT LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AT A
DISADVANTAGE VERSUS CRIMINALS
THAT DON’T CARE ABOUT OUR LAWS.
WE AGAIN JUST WANT TO CREATE A
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD BETWEEN
CRIMINALS AND LAW-ABIDING
CITIZENS.
>> SO LET’S LOOK AT THAT
CRIMINAL ASPECT.
THERE ARE SOME WHO SAY, TO YOUR
POINT AND IF WE HAVE
MISINFORMATION I AM RIGHT HERE
TO CORRECT IT.
SO THE FACT THAT YOU CAN BUY,
PURCHASE A GUN, WILL YOU STILL
NEED A BACKGROUND CHECK, IS THAT
RIGHT?
>> YEAH, THERE IS NO CHANGE IN
THE-- PROPOSED IN THE LAW FOR
HOW YOU ACQUIRE A GUN, ALTHOUGH
AGAIN I WOULD NOTE THAT
CRIMINALS BUY GUNS WITHOUT GOING
THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
>> UNDERSTOOD.
>> BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING
TO FOLLOW OUR LAWS, THOSE
REQUIREMENTSES HAVE NOT CHANGED
UNDER THIS BILL.
>> UNDERSTOOD, OKAY.
SO PART OF FLORIDA LAW IS A LOT
OF WHAT REALLY WERE
UNPRECEDENTED CHANGES IN 2018
AFTER MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS
WENT THROUGH AN UTTER
CATASTROPHE.
YOU ACTUALLY VOTED FOR THAT
PACKAGE OF BILLS BACK THEN, THAT
DID SOME REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND
HINDSIGHT THINGS LIKE THE RED
FLAG LAWS, MENTAL HEALTH, A LOT
OF MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET,
BACKGROUNDING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
NOT FIT A GUN OWNER PROFILE.
AND THEN YOU WEEKS LATER, WANTED
TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE
COMPONENTS OF THAT BILL.
HAS THAT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND
SHOULD FLORIDA REMAIN A MARJORIE
STONEMAN DOUGLAS PUBLIC SAFETY
ACT STATE?
>> WELL, I SUPPORTED MOST OF THE
BILL WHEN I VOTED FOR IT I MEAN
IN ANY LARGE PIECE OF
LEGISLATION, THERE ARE OFTEN
THINGS THAT YOU DON’T LIKE BUT
THE GOOD OUTWEIGHS THE BAD. I
THINK THAT BILL ON THE WHOLE HAS
BEEN GREAT AND AS I HAVE TALKED
TO MY SHERIFF AND OTHER LAW
ENFORCEMENT FOLKS AROUND THE
STATE, THEY ARE VERY GLAD WE
PASSED IT.
I WOULD VOTE FOR IT AGAIN TODAY.
THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT WE CAN’T
MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO
PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF FLORIDIANS
BY SAYING YOU DON’T HAVE TO GET
THE GOVERNMENT’S PERMISSION IN
ORDER TO CARRY THAT GUN THAT YOU
ALREADY HAVE GOTTEN PERMISSION
FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO OWN.
>> THERE IS SOME STUDIES I
WANTED TO KIND OF THROW OUT SOME
FACTS AND FIGURES FROM, THESE
ARE FROM JOHN HOPKINS CENTER FOR
GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION.
I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY, I’M
SURE THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH
OUT THERE THAT ANYONE CAN PULL
FROM ANYWHERE.
THESE KIND OF STUCK OUT TO ME
FOR OUR DISCUSSION TODAY THOUGH
BECAUSE IT LOOKS AT THE CRIME
RATE IN THE 25 STATES THAT, OR
SOME OF THE 25 STATES THAT DO
HAVE PERMITLESS CARRY RIGHT NOW.
AND PART OF THEIR STATISTICS
FIND THAT GUN RELATED CRIME HAS
INCREASED FROM 10 TO 12 PERCENT
OVER THE LAST DECADE IN THOSE
STATES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF FACTS
AND FIGURES THAT REFUTE THAT AND
ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THAT?
>> I DO.
I TELL YOU TWO THINGS.
ONE, CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL
CAUSEICIAN.
SO THE FACT THAT THAT EXISTS
DOESN’T MEAN IT VE LATED.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THE
DATA SHOWS THAT THE OVERWHELMING
MAJORITY OF GUN RELATED CRIMES
ARE CONDUCTED BY PEOPLE WHO
AREN’T FOLLOWING THE LAW.
THEY’RE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.
THEY’RE BUYING GUNS.
THEY’RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE.
>> UNDERSTOOD.
>> COMPLETELY POINT TAKEN.
>> THE NOTION THAT IF YOU, THE
LAST APPROACHES THESE LAWS AS
THOUGH THEY ARE MAGIC.
I OFTEN NOTE, HOW CAN MASS
SHOOTINGS HAPPEN IN PLACES LIKE
CALIFORNIA OR CHICAGO.
THEY HAVE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS.
IF GUN LAWS WORK, THOSE THINGS
WOULDN’T HAPPEN.
SO THERE IS THIS FALSE SENSE OF
SECURITY THAT SHOW PASSING A GUN
LAW WILL ACTUALLY PREVENT
SOMETHING.
IT DOESN’T BECAUSE CRIMINALS
DON’T FOLLOW THE LAW.
AS MY SHERIFF IN BRA VARD COUNTY
SAYS ARE YOU YOUR OWN FIRST LINE
OF DEFENSE.
WE SIMPLY WANT TO ALLOW CITIZENS
TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES
FROM CRIMINALS WHO DON’T FOLLOW
THE LAW.
>> YOU REPRESENT BRA VARD COUNTY
ALOT OF SHERRIVES FROM AROUND
THE STATE, THE PRESS CONFERENCE
WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS
LAW.
WE CHECKED WITH OUR, WE DON’T
HAVE, WELL, WE HAVE ONE SHERIFF
IN BROWARD COUNTY, SOUTH FLORIDA
HAS A SHER NIF MONDAY COCOUNTY
AND A PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTER IN
MIAMI DADE COUNTY.
AND NONE OF THE ABOVE WANTED TO
WEIGH IN ON THIS, DO YOU SEE
THIS, IS THERE AN URBAN AND
RURAL DIVIDE BECAUSE OF HOW GUNS
ARE USED DIFFERENTLY IN AN URBAN
LANDSCAPE AND RURAL LANDSCAPE?
>> WELL, I LIVE IN THE 9th
LARGEST COUNTY IN THE COUNTRY
AND MY SHERIFF WAS AT THE PRESS
CONFERENCE.
THE FLORIDA SHERIFF’S
ASSOCIATION CAME OUT IN SUPPORT
OF THIS BILL.
SO I CAN’T SPEAK TO WHAT EVERY
CITIZEN AND WHAT EVERY SHERIFF
IS DOING IN THE STATE.
IT’S MY UNDERSTANDING THE
OVERWHELMING MAJORITY SUPPORT
THE BILL BECAUSE WHETHER YOU ARE
IN KEY LARGO OR BRA VARD COUNTY,
THESE ISSUES CAN EFFECT YOU.
>> REPRESENTATIVE, YOU HAVE A
WEEK COMING UP IN TALLAHASSEE
THAT DOESN’T EVEN INCLUDE THIS
YET.
A LOT TO GO ON.
WE WILL BE WATCHING IT ALL AND
WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS
MORNING.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH
US.
>> I’M HAPPY TO BE HERE, THANKS
FOR HAVING ME.
>> OKAY.
AND NEXT, THE OPPOSING VIEW,
PARKLAND’S REP CONCERNED ABOUT
GUN POLITICS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
GUN POLITICS AND PUBLIC SAFETY. SHE’S IS.
SHE’S IS. >> NO SOONER THAN THE PERMITLESS
CARRY BILL WAS OFFICIALLY FILED
THIS WEEK, A FAST AND FURIOUS
BACKLASH ERUPTED FROM OPPONENTS
WHO FEAR THAT LIFTING BACKGROUND
CHECKS AND LICENSING AND FIRE
ARMS TRAINING WILL COMPROMISE
PUBLIC SAFETY.
AMONG THOSE MOST VOCAL THE SOUTH
FLORIDA STATE REP WHOSE DISTRICT
INCLUDES A PARKLAND COMMUNITY
THAT LIVES KALT STROPHIC GUN
VIOLENCE FIRST HAND.
STATE REP CHRISTINE, DEMOCRAT
FROM PARKLAND IS WITH US RIGHT
NOW, CHRISTINE, GREAT TO SEE YOU
AND THANK YOU.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WERE
YOU ABLE TO LISTEN TO REP FEIN
IN OUR LAST SEGMENT.
>> I WAS, GLENNA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME
TODAY.
I APPRECIATE IT.
>> OF COURSE, OF COURSE.
SO I WANT TO START OUT WITH
SOMETHING THAT HE HAD SAID.
AND I WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION
TO RABDY FEIN SAID THAT GUN LAWS
AREN’T SOME MAGIC BULLET THAT
STOPS CRIME.
THAT GUNS ARE DANGEROUS BECAUSE
THEY ARE IN THE HANDS OF
CRIMINALS.
AND FLORIDA WOULD LIKE TO EVEN
THE PLAYING FIELD.
I WONDER WHAT YOUR REACTION IS
TO THAT?
>> YEAH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
AND IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM DO
I THINK NOR DOES ANYBODY I KNOW
THINK THAT CRIMINALS SHOULD HAVE
MORE RIGHTS THAN NONCRIMINALS.
ADDITIONALLY, THIS IS JUST
ANOTHER TOOL IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY TOOLBOX.
THERE IS NO ONE LAW, THERE IS NO
ONE POLICY THAT WILL ERADICATE
GUN VIOLENCE.
BUT WE HAVE MANY TOOLS IN THE
TOOLBOX TO WORK TOWARD PUBLIC
SAFETY AND THAT INCLUDES
COMMUNITY VIOLENCE, INTERVENTION
PROGRAMS.
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.
RED FLAG LAWS.
THIS IS JUST REQUIRING A PERMIT
TO CARRY A CONCEALED WEAPON IS
JUST ONE MORE TOOL IN THE PUBLIC
SAFETY TOOLBOX.
AND I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC
BEHIND REMOVING THAT.
IN FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT DATA,
THE DATA OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTS
REQUIRING PERMITS FOR CONCEALED
WEAPONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND IN FACT WHEN THE OTHER SIDE
IS ASKED FOR DATA, THEY HAVE YET
BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE ANY DATA
SAYING THAT REMOVING PERMIT, THE
PERMIT AND MAKING PERMITLESS
CARRY WILL IN ANYWAY, SHAPE OR
FORM MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.
>> SO REPRESENTATIVE FEIN HAD
MADE THE POINT THAT BACKGROUND
CHECKS ARE STILL REQUIRE FORD
GUN PURCHASES.
THERE ARE STILL LAWS IN PLACE
FOR PURCHASING HANDGUNS.
AND ACTUALLY THIS BILL DOES HAVE
A FRAMEWORK OF LAWS AS WELL
WHERE YOU, WHERE A PERSON WOULD
AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CARRY A
CONCEALED WEAPON WITH OR WITHOUT
A PERMIT.
YOU, WE ARE COMING UP ON A WEEK
IN A COUPLE OF DAYS.
THE FIFTH YEAR SINCE CATASTROPHE
AT MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS
HIGH.
WOULD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS
PERMITLESS BILL HAVE CHANGED
WHAT THAT SHOOTER WAS ABLE TO
DO?
>> WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE
HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
MOST SIGNIFICANTLY THE RED FLAG
LAWS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO
THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
WE DO NOT HAVE UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS IN THE STATE
OF FLORIDA.
SO YOU CAN STILL PURCHASE A
GHOST GUN ONLINE WITHOUT GOING
TO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
YOU CAN STILL HAVE A PRIVATE
TRANSFER OF FIRE ARMS WITHOUT A
BACKGROUND CHECK.
SO IT’S NOT THAT EVERY PERSON
WHO ACQUIRES A FIRE ARM HAS GONE
THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK.
HAVING A PERMIT REQUIREMENT WITH
CONCEALED CARRY IS JUST HAVING
ONE MORE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX
REQUIRING A BACKGROUND CHECK AS
WELL AS VERY IMPORTANTLY, HAVING
PROOF THAT YOU HAVE SOME
COMPETENCY WITH A FIRE ARM.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY
CLEAR ABOUT THE UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECK.
I WOULD SUPPORT THE LEGISLATURE
PASSING A UNIVERSALS BACKGROUND
CHECK BILL TO MAKE SURE THAT
EVERYBODY IS REQUIRED TO GO
THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN
THEY PURCHASE A FIRE ARM IN THE
STATE OF THROW ARE DA.
>> AND I KNOW LISTENING TO YOU
THIS WEEK, I KNOW THAT THE LACK
OF A TRAINING COMPONENT IS ONE
OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS OF
OPPONENTS TO THIS BILL.
AND I-- AND MAY I SAY, INCLUDING
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AN
INSTRUCTOR, A COUPLE OF
INSTRUCTORS WE SPOKE WITH THIS
WEEK, ONE IN PARTICULAR
AFFILIATED WITH THE NATIONAL
RIFLE ASSOCIATION WHO REALLY HAS
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LACK OF
TRAINING COMPONENT.
BUT PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, BAD
PEOPLE WITH GUNS RIGHT NOW MAY
NOT HAVE THAT TRAINING
COMPONENT.
SO HOW DO YOU SEE EXORTING ANY
KIND OF SAFETY TRAINING
REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT’S STILL
AVAILABLE AND OPTIONAL, OF
COURSE, BUT A REQUIREMENT.
AND STILL MAINTAINING THE SPIRIT
OF A FREE AND PERMITLESS CARRY.
IS THAT EVEN DOABLE?
>> NO, I THINK WE HAVE TO
REQUIRE THE TRAINING.
AND LISTEN, THIS WHOLE IDEA OF
FREEDOM AND RIGHTS, THERE IS
NOTHING UNCONSTITUTIONAL ABOUT
REQUIRING A PERMIT TO CARRY A
CONCEALED WEAPON.
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE LAW ON
THE BOOKS.
SO I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO GO
BACK TO COMMON SENSE HERE.
I HAVE HAD TOWNHALLS IN MY
DISTRICT.
I HAVE DONE PRESESSION SURVEYS,
REACHED OUT TO MY COMMUNITY.
AND NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS
ASKED FOR THIS.
THIS IS NOT AN ONEROUS PROCESS,
BUT IT IS JUST ONE MORE SAFETY
MEASURE THAT WE CAN HAVE TO KEEP
OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
AND I GO BACK TO, AGAIN, THE
DATA SHOWING THAT REMOVING THE
PERMIT REQUIREMENT HAS LEAD IN
OTHER STATES TO INCREASED FIRE
ARMS AND INCREASED GUN VIOLENCE.
>> A LOT OF THE TALK NOW AND THE
MARJORIE STONEMAN DOUGLAS, NOT
ONLY THE FIVE YEAR MARK BUT ALSO
THE PUBLIC SAFETY ACT THAT HAS
CHANGED SO MUCH ABOUT GUN LAW IN
FLORIDA, WE TALK ABOUT THAT
OFTEN, GUN VIOLENCE, OF COURSE,
TAKES MANY FORMS.
AND MY FRIEND WHO RUNS PARENTS
OF MURDERED CHILDREN DEALS WITH
THAT EVERY DAY IN, AND THAT KIND
OF GUN VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS.
HOW DO YOU SEE THIS BILL, IF IT
BECOMES LAW, CHANGING ANY OF
THAT?
>> WOULD IT?
>> I THINK THIS LAW IS GOING TO
MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES LESS SAFE.
RIGHT NOW IF SOMEONE IS CARRYING
A WEAPON, CONCEALED THEY HAVE TO
SHOW A PERMIT SAYING THAT THEY
HAVE GONE THROUGH A BACKGROUND
CHECK AND THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED
TO BE CARRYING A CONCEALED
WEAPON.
WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY, THEN
WHAT HAPPENS?
>> WELL, WHAT IS IN THE BILL
RIGHT NOW IS, LET ME JUST FOR
VIEWERS INFORMATION, THERE IS A
COMPONENT TO THE BILL THAT
ANYONE CARRYING A CONCEALED
WEAPON MUST HAVE IDENTIFICATION,
MUST PRESENT IT WHEN ASKED BY
LAW ENFORCEMENT, SO THAT THEN
LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN GO AND DO
THAT BACKGROUNDING TO SEE IF
THIS PERSON IS ELIGIBLE.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
ELIGIBLE TO BE CARRYING WEAPONS
FELONS, ET CETERA, STILL WOULD
NOT BE.
BUT DO YOU SEE THIS PERMITLESS
CARRY CHANGING THE FACE OF
VIOLENCE ON THE STREETS AS WE
KNOW IT?
>> I DEFINITELY DON’T THINK IT
IS GOING TO REDUCE VIOLENCE.
I DO THINK IT WILL MAKE IT MORE
DIFFICULT TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE.
I THINK IT WILL INCREASE ACCESS
TO FIRE ARMS.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THERE IS
DATA SHOWING THAT WHEN
PERMITLESS CARRY GOES INTO
EFFECT IN STATES THAT THERE IS
ACTUALLY A RISE IN FIRE ARM A
THEFT, INS NO STATES.
>> STATE REP, WE WILL BE
WATCHING THIS BILL AND ALL THE
OTHERS.
AND FOUR MORE THAT YOU ALL WILL
BE IN TALLAHASSEE, WE’LL TALK
ABOUT ONE OF THEM COMING UP
NEXT.
BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALWAYS
BEING THERE WHEN WE MAKE THE
CALL TO HAVE YOU ABOARD.
APPRECIATE THAT.