>>> HERE IS A BASIC FACT. THE GREATEST PROBLEM, THE
GREATEST NUMBER OF AMERICANS
RIGHT NOW IS NOT TECHNICALLY
CONTRACTING THIS VIRUS.
IT’S LOSING YOUR JOB BECAUSE OF
THE PANDEMIC, A PROBLEM THAT NOW
HAS HIT A STAGGERING 26 MILLION
PEOPLE FROM SMALL BUSINESSES TO
THE GIG ECONOMY TO ALSO, OF
COURSE, MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND
INSTITUTIONS.
INSTITUTIONS. SO LET’S START LIKE THIS.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU WERE
ON MARCH 11th?
THAT WAS ONE DAY THAT BROUGHT
HOME HOW FAST THINGS WERE
SUDDENLY CHANGING.
SUDDENLY CHANGING. SEVERAL SPORTS LEAGUES SHUTTING
DOWN THEIR SEASONS.
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF RELATED
JOBS IN PERIL.
MY NEXT GUEST WAS AT HIS JOB,
DALLAS MAVERICKS OWNER MARK
CUBAN.
CUBAN. WAS WITH HIS TEAM IN THE MIDDLE
OF A GAME WHEN THE URGENT NEWS
CAME IN THE NBA WAS SUSPENDING
THE WHOLE SEASON.
IN FACT, WE’LL SHOW YOU.
HERE IS CUBAN TAKING IN THE
SUDDEN NEWS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
THIS IS SHOT RIGHT FROM WHEN IT
HAPPENED IN REALTIME.
>> THIS IS CRAZY.
THIS CAN’T BE TRUE.
I MEAN, IT’S NOT WITHIN THE
REALM OF POSSIBILITIES.
IT SEEMS MORE LIKE OUT OF A
MOVIE THAN REALITY.
IT’S REALLY NOT ABOUT BASKETBALL
OR MONEY.
OR MONEY. YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, YOU
KNOW.
KNOW. YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE
YOU’RE DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
WORK HERE ON AN HOURLY BASIS.
WE’LL PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM FOR
THEM.
THEM. .
. THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO MEASURE
ALL THE RESPONSES TO A CRISIS AS
IT HIT ALL THESE DIFFERENT
COUNTRIES AND INSTITUTIONS AND
ECONOMIES.
ECONOMIES. WE’VE COVERED THIS.
THE W.H.O. MADE SOME MISTAKES,
BUT IT WAS AHEAD OF MANY
COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THE U.S.
WHERE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION
LAGGED BEHIND WHAT THE W.H.O.
WAS SAYING MEDICALLY.
SPORTS LEAGUES LIKE THE NBA AND
NHL, THEY DIDN’T HAVE PRIVATE
INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS LIKE THE
PRESIDENT TO SHAPE THEIR
DECISIONS, BUT WE NOTE THEY
STILL CAME OUT MORE DECISIVELY
IN SHUTTING DOWN AND PROTECTING
MANY IMPACTED PEOPLE THAN DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. NOW CONSIDER WHAT DONALD TRUMP
SAID THE VERY SAME DAY THE NBA
SHUT DOWN, AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT
THE REST OF THAT WEEK.
>> THE VAST MAJORITY OF
AMERICANS, THE RISK IS VERY,
VERY LOW.
VERY LOW. >> OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE
SMALLER COUNTRIES HAVE MANY,
MANY DEATHS.
MANY DEATHS. 32 IS A LOT.
32 IS TOO MANY.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF
NUMBERS YOU’RE SEEING COMING OUT
OF OTHER COUNTRIES, IT’S PRETTY
AMAZING WHEN YOU THINK OF IT.
>> BUT WE’VE DONE A GREAT JOB
BECAUSE WE ACTED QUICKLY.
WE ACTED EARLY.
AND THERE IS NOTHING WE COULD
HAVE DONE THAT WAS BETTER THAN
CLOSING OUR BORDERS TO HIGHLY
INFECTED AREAS.
INFECTED AREAS. >> JOINING ME NOW IS
ENTREPRENEUR AND INVESTOR MARK
CUBAN.
CUBAN. HE ALSO OWNS THE DALLAS
MAVERICKS AND IS ONE OF THE MAIN
INVEST OWNERS THAT REALITY SHOW
YOU’VE PROBABLY SEEN, "SHARK
TANK."
TANK." THANKS FOR JOINING ME, MARK.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
>> LET’S START WITH WHAT WE JUST
SHOWED.
SHOWED. HOW DO YOU RATE THE PRESIDENT’S
HANDLING OF THIS VIRUS IN
COMPARISON TO, SAY, THE NBA AND
THOSE KIND OF INSTITUTIONS AND
OVERALL?
OVERALL? >> YOU KNOW WHAT?
I’M NOT GOING TO SECOND GUESS.
WHAT’S DONE IS DONE.
WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS WHAT’S
HAPPENING NEXT.
HAPPENING NEXT. WHAT I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IS
WHERE IS TESTING COME FROM.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET IT
IMPLEMENTED?
IMPLEMENTED? HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO TRACKING
RAND TRACING?
RAND TRACING? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A FEDERAL
JOBS PROGRAM THAT EMPLOYEES
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED
RIGHT NOW TO DO THAT TRACKING
AND TRACING.
AND TRACING. >> YOU KNOW, HE WAS DEALING WITH
IMPERFECT INFORMATION.
IMPERFECT INFORMATION. WE KNOW WHO HE IS.
I DIDN’T EXPECT A WHOLE LOT.
BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING NEXT.
THAT’S WHAT I CARE ABOUT.
>> PART OF WHAT WE’RE DOING
NEXT, OF COURSE, WILL INFORM ON
WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ECONOMY.
YOUR VIEW OF THE ECONOMY RIGHT
NOW AND HOW DO YOU GET IT MOVING
AGAIN WITHIN THESE RESTRICTIONS?
>> I THINK WE SHOULD LEARN FOR
WHAT WORKS.
WHAT WORKS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE’VE DONE
FOR RESTAURANTS IN PARTICULAR,
WE’VE ALOUD PICKUP AND DELIVERY.
AND WE HAVEN’T HAD ANY REAL
PROBLEMS.
PROBLEMS. AND I ACTUALLY TALKED TO SOME
RESTAURANT, AND I KNOW A LOT OF
SMALLER ONES AREN’T DOING WELL.
BUT SOME PICKUP AND DELIVERY,
SOME RESTAURANTS HAVE DONE
REALLY WELL WITH PICKUP AND
DELIVERY.
DELIVERY. WHY NOT EXTEND THAT TO ANY
COMPANY IN THE UNITED STATES.
SO ANY COMPANY THAT WANTS TO
OFFER PICKUP AND DELIVERY
EXCLUSIVELY, OPEN UP RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHEN WE GET TO OPENING UP
OUR RETAIL LOCATION, THAT’S A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MATTER, AND
I’LL TELL YOU WHY.
BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE PROTOCOLS
IN PLACE TO GUIDE THOSE SMALL OR
MEDIUM OR LARGE-SIZED RETAIL
BUSINESSES TO TELL THEM WHAT TO
DO TO DEAL WITH SANITATION AND
JUST I’LL GIVE YOU A SIMPLE
EXAMPLE, RIGHT.
EXAMPLE, RIGHT. IT’S A CLOTHING STORE, AND ARI
WALKS IN AND HE WANTS TO TRY ON
A T-SHIRT.
A T-SHIRT. TRIES IT ON, PUTTING IT BACK,
DECIDES HE DOESN’T WANT TO BUY
IT.
IT. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THAT
T-SHIRT?
T-SHIRT? YOU CAN’T JUST PUT IT THERE FOR
THE NEXT PERSON TO BUY.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> SOMEBODY GOES INTO A
RESTAURANT --
RESTAURANT -- >> WELL, WAIT.
>> TAKES OFF THEIR MASK,
SNEEZES, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO
DO?
DO? >> DOES THE EXAMPLE CHANGE IF I
WANT TO TRY ON A PEAR OF EASIES?
>> HE IS A BILLIONAIRE.
HE CAN LET YOU KEEP THEM.
>> HEY, YOU KNOW FORBES SAYS --
I KNOW YOU KEEP TRACK OF THIS
STUFF.
STUFF. FORBES SAYS KANYE IS NOW A
BILLIONAIRE.
BILLIONAIRE. DO YOU THINK HE HAS MORE MONEY
THAN YOU, SINCE HE BROUGHT IT
UP?
UP? >> YOU KNOW WHAT?
FOR HIS SAKE, I HOPE HE DOES.
>> LET’S GET INTO THIS PRACTICAL
PART, BECAUSE WE’VE PREPARED YOU
TO TALK ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT
YOU’RE SAYING.
YOU’RE SAYING. YOU’RE A PRACTICAL BUSINESS
PERSON.
PERSON. SOMETIMES WE GOT SOMEONE WHO
CLAIMS HELP WAS IN BUSINESS IN
THE WHITE HOUSE.
OF COURSE A LOT OF WHAT HE WAS
IN WAS ENTERTAINMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE GOVERNMENT
WHICH I WILL ADMIT CONGRESS IS
FULL OF LAWYERS.
THEY KNOW CERTAIN THINGS LIKE
LAWS.
LAWS. BUT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE
REOPENING.
REOPENING. HERE IS WHAT THE FEDERAL
GUIDELINES NOW SAY ABOUT PHASE
ONE REOPENING LARGE VENUES LIKE
THE SIT-DOWN MOVIE VENUES.
PLACES OF WORSHIP HAVE STRICT
PHYSICAL DISTANCING PROTOCOLS.
THAT’S BASICALLY PREVENTION.
YOU CAN’T DO A SPORTS VENUE LIKE
THAT.
THAT. GYMS CAN OPEN IF THEY HAVE
STRICT PHYSICAL DISTANCING.
YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT.
BARS MUST REMAIN CLOSED.
WITH YOUR ENTREPRENEURIAL
EXPERIENCE, DOES THAT STRIKE YOU
AS RIGHT FOR BUSINESS OR DO YOU
THINK THERE IS A WAY TO CONTINUE
TO INNOVATE FOLLOWING THE EASY
GUIDELINES?
GUIDELINES? >> I THINK IT’S REALLY LIMITED,
AND IT’S ALMOST USELESS, RIGHT?
I MEAN, LOOK, AGAIN, WHAT DOES A
SMALL RESTAURANT NEED TO KNOW IN
ORDER TO KEEP THEIR PATRONS
SAFE?
SAFE? WHAT DO THE EMPLOYEES NEED TO
KNOW SO THAT WHEN THEY GO TO
WORK THAT.
WORK THAT. >> FEEL SAFE?
WHAT THE CDC HAS PRESENTED IS
COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT WE’VE
BEEN SEEING, BUT IT DOESN’T
REALLY PROTECT EMPLOYEES OR
CUSTOMERS AT ALL.
I NEED TO GO -- I THINK IT NEEDS
TO GO MUCH FURTHER.
THEN WE CAN START TO TALK ABOUT
OPENING UP THE RETAIL SIDE OF
IT.
IT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE’RE WOELY
UNDERPREPARED.
UNDERPREPARED. AND WE NEED, WHETHER IT’S STATE
OR FEDERAL, THERE NEEDS TO BE
VERY SPECIFIC PAROLE PEROT KOHLS
IN PLACE TO BUILD CONFIDENCE AND
PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES AND
CUSTOMERS.
CUSTOMERS. >> YOU MENTIONED STATE AND
FEDERAL.
FEDERAL. A LOT OF THIS OBVIOUSLY IS THE
STATE LEVEL.
STATE LEVEL. THAT’S WHY THE PRESIDENT RUNNING
HIS MOUTH ABOUT WHAT HE WILL
ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW GOVERNORS TO
DO IS IRRELEVANT.
IT LITERALLY HAS NO LEGAL
SIGNIFICANCE, BECAUSE GOVERNORS
MAKE THEIR OWN CALL.
TO THAT END, WHERE YOU DO
BUSINESS IN TEXAS, I WANT TO
SHOW TEXAS GOVERNOR ABBOTT.
HE HAS BEEN DISCUSSING HANDLING
IT IN YOUR STATE.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> ALL RETAIL STORES,
RESTAURANTS, MOVIE THEATERS, AND
MALLS CAN REOPEN MAY 1.
I AM LIMITING OCCUPANCY TO NO
MORE THAN 25%.
THE EXTENT TO WHICH THIS ORDER
OPENS UP BUSINESS IN TEXAS
SUPERSEDES ALL LOCAL ORDERS.
>> DO YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT
APPROACH?
APPROACH? >> IT’S KIND OF SHOWMANSHIP.
THE REALITY IS A RETAIL STORE
TRYING TO OPEN UP OR ANY LARGE
VENUE TRYING TO OPEN, WHETHER
SMALL THEATER, WHATEVER IT MAY
BE, WHEN YOU TO RESTRICT TO 25%,
IT’S GOING TO COST YOU MORE TO
OPEN UP THAN ANYTHING YOU’D
ACTUALLY BRING IN REVENUE.
NOW THE PICKUP AND DELIVERY,
THEY DID EXTEND TO ANY COMPANY,
WHICH I LIKED, AS I SAID
EARLIER.
EARLIER. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT’S A
MARKETING.
MARKETING. IT’S GAMESMANSHIP.
IT’S GAMESMANSHIP. MAYBE A COUPLE OF BUSINESS
DISEASE OPEN UP.
BUT ARI, WHAT WE’RE REALLY
MISSING, BECAUSE DEMAND IS GOING
TO BE SO MUCH LESS THAN IT WAS
BEFORE, JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW
SOME OF THESE GUIDELINES, THESE
SMALL BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO
LOSE MORE MONEY BY OPENING UP
FOR RETAIL.
FOR RETAIL. AND NOBODY IS GIVING THEM ANY
HELP.
HELP. NOBODY IS GIVING THEM ANY
GUIDANCE.
GUIDANCE. THERE SHOULD BE SUPPORT THERE.
AND AGAIN, NOBODY IS STANDING UP
FOR EMPLOYEES.
FOR EMPLOYEES. WHO IS -- WHAT ARE EMPLOYEES
GOING TO DO IF THEY FEEL THE
PRESSURE TO COME TO WORK, BUT
THEY DON’T FEEL IT’S SAFE?
WHO DO THEY TURN TO?
WHO DO THEY TALK TO?
THAT’S WHY I KEEP HARPING ON
VERY SPECIFIC PROTOCOLS TO
PROTECT EVERYBODY.
PROTECT EVERYBODY. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU MENTIONED THE HELP.
WE HAVE BEEN REPORTING ON THESE
TERRIBLE STORIES ABOUT BOTH THE
PROBLEM AT STATE AND FEDERAL
LEVEL OF GETTING EVEN BASIC
UNEMPLOYMENT HELP, EVEN GETTING
THROUGH WITH THE SYSTEMS,
GETTING THE SMALL BUSINESS
LOANS.
LOANS. A LOT OF PEOPLE POINTING OUT WE
SHOULDN’T EVEN CALL THEM SMALL
BUSINESS LOANS WHEN YOU LOOK AT
SOMEONE WHO IS ABLE TO COME IN
THERE.
THERE. SHARKS IN THE BAD SENSE OF THE
WORD.
WORD. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> GET WHAT I’M SAYING THERE?
>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
>> YOU GOT IT.
I SLOW DOWN THE BAD JOKES.
IT’S JUST SOMETHING I DO.
BUT LET ME SHOW YOU IN ALL
SERIOUSNESS, THIS INCLUDES, YOU
KNOW, SOME OF YOUR
CONTEMPORARIES.
CONTEMPORARIES. THEY OFFER THESE SMALL BUSINESS
LOANS, AND SOME COMPANIES, YOU
KNOW WHERE I’M GOING WITH THIS,
THEY USE IT AS A LOOPHOLE
BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THE LAKERS
HAVE SOME LOWER NUMBER.
THEN THEY BACKED OFF IT WITH BAD
PRESS.
PRESS. POTBELLY, SHAKE SHACK.
YOU’VE HEARD THE STORIES.
NUMBER ONE, DO YOU THINK THE
PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THOSE
ORGANIZATIONS WERE WRONG TO GET
THAT MONEY, EVEN IF I’LL BE FAIR
AND ACCURATE ABOUT IT, EVEN IF
TECHNICALLY IT WAS LEGAL?
>> YOU KNOW, INITIALLY, KNOW, I
WOULD SAY THEY WEREN’T WRONG
BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS THE
EXPECTATION THAT THERE WAS
ENOUGH MONEY FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT THE MINUTE YOU FIND OUT
THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL
BUSINESSES THAT WEREN’T ABLE TO
GET FUNDING IF YOU DIDN’T RETURN
THE MONEY, THEN YOU’RE A BAD
ACTOR.
ACTOR. AND I KNOW THE LAKERS DID RETURN
THE FUNDING.
THE FUNDING. I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER
COMPANIES THAT RETURNED IT ARE
LISTED AS WELL.
AND NOW THEY EXCLUDED THOSE
COMPANIES IN THE SECOND TRANCHE,
WHICH IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT THE REAL PROBLEM, ARI, IS
THE SMALLEST COMPANIES DIDN’T
HAVE AN EQUAL SHOT BECAUSE
PARTICULARLY THE BIGGER BANKS
CONTROLLING MOST OF THE
APPLICATIONS CONTROLLED OVER WHO
GOT THE MONEY AND WHO DIDN’T.
>> SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR
YOU.
YOU. YOU KNOW SO MUCHER THIS. ABOUT T
YOU’RE IN THIS CRISIS SO YOU’RE
NOT GOING TO REWIRE THE ENTIRE
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
A LOT OF AMERICANS ARE FEELING
LIKE IT’S 2008 REDUX, WHERE THE
BANKS ARE ALWAYS BEING TOLD OH,
WELL, THE BANKS ARE CRITICAL,
THEY’RE MISSION CRITICAL AND WE
HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT.
YOU WERE JUST MENTIONING A
LOTTERY.
LOTTERY. HOW EXACTLY PRACTICALLY WOULD
YOU WANT TO FIX THIS?
>> FIRST YOU DO SOME MATH,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? HOW MANY SMALL BUSINESSES ARE
THERE?
THERE? THE DECLINE IN THEIR BUSINESS.
THAT’S THE TOTAL YOU’RE GOING TO
NEED.
NEED. SO YOU START THERE.
IF YOU CAN’T GET THAT AMOUNT
APPROPRIATED IN TERMS OF A
LOTTERY, ANY BUSINESS APPLIES TO
ANY BANK.
ANY BANK. ONCE THEY TAKE AND APPROVE THE
APPLICATION, THEY SEND TO IT THE
GOVERNMENT, THE SBA, OR THE
TREASURY.
TREASURY. THAT TREASURY SAYS WE’RE GOING
TAKE THE FIRST 50,000 COMPANIES
AND CHOOSE THEM RANDOMLY.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY’S GOT AN
EQUAL CHANCE.
EQUAL CHANCE. ONCE WE CHOOSE TO 50,000, WE’LL
SEE WHAT THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS,
AND THEN WE’LL DO IT AGAIN UNTIL
THE MONEY IS GONE.
REALIZE WE’VE DONE THIS TWICE
NOW.
NOW. WE’RE GOING HAVE TO DO IT MANY
MORE TIMES, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. THE CATCH-22 FOR A LOT OF THESE
SMALL COMPANIES IS THAT THEY
AREN’T GOING
AREN’T GOING GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR
EMPLOYEES FOR EIGHT WEEKS BUT
CHANCES ARE THEY AREN’T GOING TO
BE ABLE TO OPEN.
SO NOW THEY’RE PAYING EMPLOYEES
TO DO NOTHING.
THEIR EMPLOYEES WHETHER THEY CAN
GET UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ARE
GETTING PAID MORE ON
UNEMPLOYMENT.
UNEMPLOYMENT. SO THEY CAN’T GET THEM TO COME
BACK A LOT.
THEY’RE IN THIS CATCH-22.
WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE
SOMEBODY WHO TRULY UNDERSTANDS
SMALL BUSINESSES, WHO TRULY
UNDERSTANDS THE PREDICAMENT
SMALL BUSINESSES AND THEIR
EMPLOYEES ARE IN AND JUST LOOK
AT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
HAVING TO GO THROUGH BANKS WHEN
YOU’RE IN A RUSH TO GET MONEY IN
PEOPLE’S HANDS, I UNDERSTAND WHY
THEY DID THAT.
BUT NOW THAT WE’VE BEEN THROUGH
THIS TWICE, LET’S OPTIMIZE IT
AND GET IT RIGHT.
>> REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.
I WANT TO SHOW A LITTLE JOE
BIDEN BEFORE I LET YOU GO REAL
QUICK.
QUICK. >> SURE.
>> SURE. >> WE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT
LEADERS.
LEADERS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE TEXAS
GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR. HERE IS HOW JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THE PANDEMIC.
>> THIS NEW ENEMY MAY BE UNSEEN,
BUT WE HAVE THE TOOLS, THE
EXPERTISE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY,
THE SPIRIT TO DEFEAT IT.
BUT WE NEED TO MOVE AND WE NEED
MOVE FAST.
MOVE FAST. >> THE VICE PRESIDENT THERE
CAMPAIGNING FROM HOME.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HOW HE IS
DOING?
DOING? WILL HE GET YOUR VOTE IN
NOVEMBER?
NOVEMBER? >> YOU KNOW, DEPENDS WHO THE
FINAL TWO CANDIDATES ARE.
I’M OBVIOUSLY NOT A FAN OF THE
PRESIDENT AT ALL.
SO RIGHT NOW I’D SAY YES, BUT AT
THE SAME TIME, WE NEED
LEADERSHIP, AND WE’RE NOT
GETTING IT ANYWHERE.
I THINK VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS
BEEN TOO SILENT.
HE HAS BEEN TOO QUIET.
HE IS NOT REALLY OFFERING
SOLUTIONS IN A WAY THAT BUILDS
CONFIDENCE.
CONFIDENCE. AND SO, LOOK, I KNOW THIS IS A
TOUGH TIME.
TOUGH TIME. HE DOESN’T WANT TO BE SEEN AS
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A TRAGEDY
LIKE THIS.
LIKE THIS. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE NEED
LEADERSHIP.
LEADERSHIP. AND I SAY IT ALL THE TIME.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE THE LEADER
TO BE A LEADER.
AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STAND UP
AND PUT THEIR VOICE FORWARD A
LOT LOUDER AND A LOT MORE
STRONGLY THAN WHAT WE’VE BEEN TH
SEEING.
SEEING. SPEAKING UP FOR THE WORKERS,
SPEAKING UP FOR SMALL
BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES. THIS HAS GOT TO BE A BOTTOM UP
RECOVERY.
RECOVERY. THIS HAS TO BE A CONSUMER DRIVEN
RECOVERY.
RECOVERY. WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE
TOPDOWN APPROACH AND I HAVEN’T
HEARD APPROACHING ANYTHING LIKE
THAT FROM ANY CANDIDATE.
>> REALLY INTERESTING, GETTING
YOU TO COVER A LOT OF GROUND.
I’M OUT OF TIME.
THIS WAS YOUR FIRST APPEARANCE
ON "THE BEAT."
I HOPE YOU COME BACK.
>> YES, SIR.
I’LL HAVE SOME HIP-HOP
REFERENCES NEXT TIME.
>> YOU KNOW, MARK, JUST BE
YOURSELF.
YOURSELF. THAT’S THE SUCCESS SECRET.