Speaker 1: All right, let's go on to the next segment, which is going to anger many people
in my audience. I got a ton of it, so let me back up. Last week, we looked at this interview
that Jordan Peterson did with Joe Rogan, and the interview was just word salad after word
salad of meaningless stuff. And predictably, I got a lot of emails from people saying, David,
you might not have understood what Jordan Peterson was saying, but it made a lot of sense.
In particular, his rant about the Bible. And unfortunately, you're wrong. What Jordan Peterson
said about about the Bible did not make a lot of sense, and so we're going to go through now.
We did an overview of the interview last week. Now we're going to focus in specifically on Jordan
Peterson's rant about the Bible, which makes no sense. And there's a really good there's this
subreddit called Ask a Historian. Some people would say, ask an historian that that's
a grammatical preference, and I'm going to summarize some of the comments here. The Reddit
user who wrote this out is Kiwi Hellenistic, who's an expert in early Greek literature.
So let's go through the video and we are now going to really focus it on the substance. It is an
unintelligible word salad, and it's also wrong on the substance. So let's just jump right in.
Speaker 3: So I just walked through the Museum of the Bible in Washington. That was very cool.
It's very cool music. So that structure, that's what the book is, what I figured out. I mean,
I just figured this out this week. So it was a cool it was a cool thing to walk through because
it's it's chronological. They have one floor, which is the history of the Bible. Hmm. It's
not exactly that. It's really what it is is the history of the book right now. In many ways,
the first book was the Bible, OK? Speaker 1: In many ways, the first book
was the Bible. Now what does he mean by that? He says he's talking about the history of the book,
not the content. OK, so if that's what he means, the first book was not the Bible. Books date back
to the start of the second millennium. B.C. The Bible dates to no earlier than the seventh
century B.C. or B.C., as is now often said. Some of it came much later than that even,
and the New Testament is even newer. So, OK, first statement. The first book was not the Bible. It's
just it's a factually incorrect statement. Speaker 3: I mean, literally because
at one point there was only one book. OK. Speaker 1: I mean, literally, it was
the first book because at one point there was only one book at one point.
I guess there was only one book, but it wasn't the Bible.
It was the Bible was not that book. Speaker 3: Like as far as our Western
culture is concerned, there is one book. Speaker 1: No, that's that's not true. The
Hebrew Bible is made up of a bunch of different texts, and they were written over a period of
time that is about 500 years. And prior to that, there were many books that were written.
It's what he's saying is it's it's factually untrue. There's no I mean,
I'm like over explaining, it's just not true. Speaker 3: And for a while, literally,
there was only one book and that book was the Bible. And then before it was the Bible, it was a,
you know, it was scrolls and it was writings on papyrus. And but it was we were starting
to aggregate written texts together, and it went through all sorts of technological transformations
and then it became books that everybody could buy the book everybody could buy in. The first
one of those was the Bible, and then it became all sorts of books that everybody could buy.
But all those books, in some sense, emerged out of that underlying book and that book itself,
the Bible isn't a book, it's a library. Speaker 1: Now, there's actually almost
nothing to fact check there. You know, the writings on papyrus, those were the books
of the time. So to say that because it was on papyrus, they're not really books, it ignores
the reality of the times. Not all future books emerged from the Bible, either, like the Odyssey
was written in the 8th century BCE that didn't emerge from the Bible. Most of the Iliad is
older than the Bible. That's a book, whether it was written on papyrus or not. And then there's
this sort of last thing he says here Oh, if the Speaker 3: Bible isn't a book, it's a library.
Speaker 1: The Bible isn't a book. It's a library. Speaker 3: It's a collection of books.
Speaker 1: OK? It's not really clear what he means by that. The Bible is a book made up of
different passages, written at different times and assembled together. It's a pretty vague statement
and as the culmination of everything else that he said, that's straight up wrong. It's not really
worth much one way or the other to say the Bible is a library. It's not just that if it sounds like
a word salad, we're not smart enough to understand it. To all the people emailing me, insisting
me how right he is. He is wrong. He is wrong. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't mean everything
he says is wrong, but he's completely wrong about just about everything he said in that clip.
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