TRISH: BREAKING TODAY, EVERYONE,
SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER
HAS CHARGED A LAWYER WITH CLOSE
TIES TO FORMER TRUMP ADVISOR
RICHARD GATES, FOR LYING TO THE
FBI IN THE ONGOING RUSSIA PROBE.
ALEX VANNEDDER SWAN IS EXPECTED
TO PLEAD GUILTY ANY MINUTE FROM
NOW.
INDICTMENT COMES DAYS AFTER
MUELLER CHARGED 13 RUSSIAN
NATIONALS IN OUR ELECTION.
OUR NEXT GUEST SAYS WE NEED TO
SEPARATE POLITICS FROM THE
PROBE.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER RUSSIA
INTERFERED IN OUR ELECTION.
THEY USED A BUNCH SOCIAL MEDIA
WEBSITES TO TRY TO CREATE
CONTROVERSY AND USED MICHAEL
MOORE TO CREATE CONTROVERSY AS
WELL.
IN FACT, MICHAEL MOORE WAS
THERE.
WE SHOWED YOU THE PICTURE
EARLIER, MAYBE WE STILL HAVE IT,
OUT THERE LEADING A RALLY IN
NEW YORK CITY THAT HAD BEEN
ORGANIZED BY THE RUSSIANS!
FOX NEWS STRATEGIC ANALYST
LIEUTENANT COLONEL RALPH PETERS
WANTS MORE FROM BOTH SIDES.
HE JOINS ME NOW.
COLONEL PETERS, YOU KNOW, I LOOK
AT THIS, AND I, MY ONE CONCERN
IS THAT THE RUSSIANS DID SOMEHOW
MANAGE TO PLAY A WHOLE BUTCH --
BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHETHER MICHAEL
MOORE OR OUR FBI, LIKE JAMES
COMEY, THEY TOOK A PIECE OF
GARBAGE, DOSSIER, QUOTE,
UNQUOTE, CREATED BY A BRITISH
SPY WHO LOOKS LIKE WAS FED A
WHOLE BUNCH OF OF LIES BY THE
RUSSIANS.
NEXT THING WE KNOW WE'RE ISSUING
A FISA WARRANT ON IT.
COME ON.
>> THEY PLAYED MANY PEOPLE IN
TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN.
THE EVIDENCE IS STRONG THAT THEY
DID BUT, TRISH, THE FUNDAMENTAL
PROBLEM HERE, BY TEARING
OURSELVES APART WE'RE PLAYING
INTO PUTIN'S HAND.
WE POLITICIZED THIS, THIS IS NOT
A POLITICAL ISSUE, IT'S A
STRATEGIC ISSUE OF THE FIRST
IMPORTANCE.
DEFENDING THE FUNDAMENTAL TOOL
OF OUR DEMOCRACY, FREE AND FAIR
ELECTIONS.
TO BE HONEST, PRESIDENT TRUMP
MADE IT ALL ABOUT HIMSELF,
DEMOCRATS MADE IT ABOUT GETTING
TRUMP, THE REPUBLICANS TO FORGOT
THE THEY'RE THE PARTY TO PROTECT
US FROM RUSSIANS.
THE ENEMY IS NOT DONALD TRUMP,
CERTAINLY NOT ROBERT MUELLER,
THE ENEMY IS VLADMIR PUTIN.
EVERY AMERICAN, FROM
NANCY PELOSI, DEVIN NUNEZ,
SHOULD BE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
STANDING UP AGAINST THE
RUSSIANS.
THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO PROVIDE
LEADERSHIP TO PREVENT PUTIN
INTERFERING IN THE NEXT CYCLE OF
ELECTIONS.
INSTEAD WE'RE TO THE GETTING IT.
WE'RE TEARING OURSELVES APART.
IT IS DEVASTATING TO THE
COUNTRY.
PUTIN IS LAUGHING AT ALL OF US.
TRISH: IT IS AS THOUGH HE WAS
ABLE TO USE OUR GREATEST
STRENGTH, THE OPENNESS OF OUR
SOCIETY AGAINST US, RIGHT?
IT IS THAT OPENNESS, TRUST IN
OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR OPEN, FREE
PRESS, HE USED ALL OF THAT
DIRECTLY AGAINST US TO CREATE
THIS DIVISION, TO CREATE THIS
UNCERTAINTY, TO CREATE, COLONEL
THIS, CHAOS?
>> YEAH.
AN AMERICAN SOVIET SYMPATHIZER
WAY BACK IN THE 1920s, LINCOLN
STEFFENS, WENT TO THE
SOVIET UNION.
HE MADE UP THIS LINE, CONCOCT
THE IT, I HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE
AND IT WORKS.
WHEN IT COMES TO INTERNET
MANIPULATION OF ELECTIONS AND IT
STINKS.
PUTIN WAS AHEAD OF US.
THERE ARE MANY REASONS WERE THIS
HAPPENED.
TRISH: I WANT TO BACK UP HERE.
I DON'T KNOW THIS MANIPULATED
OUTCOME OF ELECTION.
>> NOBODY KNOWS THAT.
TRISH: WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
ABOUT THAT BUT WHAT I COULD SAY
IT CONTRIBUTED TO THE
MANIPULATION OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE TO INSPIRE A KIND OF
CRAZED, RAW EMOTION TO THE POINT
WHERE THANKSGIVING DINNER SOME
FAMILIES COULDN'T EVEN TALK
ABOUT POLITICS BECAUSE NOBODY
CAN DO SO WITHOUT A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT INVESTED, RIGHT?
I MEAN THAT WAS IN PART WHAT
PUTIN WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THE DIVISIONS, BOTH SIDES HAVE
BEEN EQUALLY DIVISIVE.
I'M NOT GOING TO DEFEND EITHER
SIDE IN THIS.
AGAIN WE'RE PICKING EACH OTHER
APART.
WE'RE BLAMING THE FBI.
NO, WE'RE BLAMING TRUMP CAMPAIGN
AID.
TRISH: I HAVE NOT BEEN BLAMING
THE FBI.
>> I KNOW YOU DON'T.
TRISH: NO, I DO BLAME THE FBI!
>> I DON'T.
TRISH: I THINK FBI FELL FOR THIS
AS MUCH AS OTHERS.
THE IDEA WE'RE ISSUING A FISA
WARRANT BASED ON A BUNCH OF
OPPOSITION RESEARCH PAID FOR BY
THE DEMOCRATS, THAT IS KIND OF
MESSED UP, COLONEL.
>> TRISH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YET
ALL WENT INTO THE FISA WARRANT.
WE WON'T FOR SOME TIME BUT I'LL
TELL YOU I WORKED IN THE FBI I
HAVE UTTER FAITH IN THEIR
ABILITY OVERALL TO DO THE RIGHT
THING.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ATTACKING
OUR INSTITUTIONS.
>> I KNOW, BUT COLONEL, THEY --
>> LET'S NOT DO PUTIN'S WORK FOR
HIM, TRISH.
TRISH: I AGREE WITH THAT.
THE PROBLEM I DID DO PUTIN'S
WORK FOR HIM.
ISSUING THE FISA WARRANT.
>> BE AMERICANS TOGETHER.
LET'S BLAME PUTIN.
THAT IS WHERE THE BLAME LIES.
PUTIN IS OUR ENEMY.
TRISH: I THINK WE NEED TO BE
SMARTER ABOUT IT.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
>> WE SURE DO.
THE PRESIDENT TRUMP NEEDS TO
FULLY IMPOSE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA
VOTED BY SENATE 98-2.
TRISH: AND CHINA.
>> CERTAINLY OF COURSE, OF
COURSE.
BUT THE RUSSIANS NEED TO PAY A
PRICE FOR WHAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO
DO, WHATEVER THE ULTIMATE
EFFECTS MAY HAVE BEEN.
PUTIN IS THE VILLAIN HERE.
TRISH: I HEAR YOU.
I HEAR YOU.
HE IS.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
MITT ROMNEY SAW THAT ONE COMING