- Hey guys, what's going on?
It's Alex from Fitment Industries
and we're on another episode of This or That.
Where you get to pick two things that we get to talk about
and we compare and we argue about them
or we just stare at each other
and wait for somebody to make an answer.
- Right.
- And--
- I'm Jasper, from Fitment Industries.
- And it's your last week.
- It's my last week,
I'm gone Friday. - Are you sad?
I can already see the top comment, bring back Jasper.
- On every other video.
- But then they'll forget.
- Right, they always forget.
- And then the summertime will come back.
- And then--
- And then, you'll hit them again, with a little musky.
- Right, right, musky. (laughs)
- A little musky action. - Yeah.
- Just a little bit, little bit of mustache.
What is the featured wheel before we forget?
- Rotiform WGR, super nice, red chrome-ish thing
that they have, super, I don't know, I love this finish.
- The red, it's a popular finish.
I think it's gonna be an awesome finish
for 2019 one-piece cast, that sort of stuff.
Let's get into it, so we have, if you guys wanna be
part of the next episode, all you have to do
is comment below, whether we would go with this
or whether we would go with that.
And then you can-- - That.
- Rate up or rate down, and then we'll pick like
five or seven, or 10 of them depending how easy
they are to answer. - Or like five.
- Or five, I guess, jeez.
- [Man] All right, so the first question
comes from Adrian Sjolund, and he asks,
Chassis mount wing with wide body
or roof spoiler with diffuser?
- So, - What would you do?
- Chassis mount wide body or roof spoiler and diffuser.
Well, I hate chassis mount wings, cannot stand them.
So yeah, roof spoiler diffuser.
Diffusers always look good.
A lot of rear bumpers always sit really high,
and, you know, roof spoilers just have that extra.
- I would say wide body and chassis mount,
and I think that I would do that, is just because
I can't do the roof spoiler, I think it's just odd.
And the diffuser's getting dated,
and I know it's weird to say.
But like diffusers,
were in three years ago. - Don't you think wide bodies
are getting dated?
- Not as bad as splitters are,
splitters were before the wide body craze.
That was back when everybody wanted to make,
they went to Menards or Fleet Farm.
- EBS plastic.
- And they went and they bought all that stuff,
and then they cut it all, they mounted it crooked,
and then they installed it on the back of--
- Splitter rods. - Yeah.
And then that was the thing, and then finally like,
oh we can do this on the side of car too.
And then they went with
the wide body over fender thing.
I think that's what I would go with.
- Yeah. - But in my eyes
I'd try not to imagine,
the BRZ/FR-S scene anymore with the wide body
and the big chassis mount wing, I'd try to imagine
a nice clean, sleek wing on a 458 Liberty Walk
- [Jasper] Now that you have, you know, two Porsche's.
- [Man] Erick Pacheco asks,
- Pachecko. - Tucked fitment on some--
- Pachecko. - On some three piece wheels.
- You really like that name. - Plinko.
- [Man] One piece concave wheels?
- So, in case you weren't listening 'cause you really
enjoyed his last name-- - Plinko, Pachecko.
(laughs)
- Oh my God, I wanna shoot you.
(laughs)
One piece wheels, fender lip or
three piece wheels tucked?
What would you choose?
Lets go on three.
One, two, three.
Fender to lip. - Three piece.
- Yeah, three piece,
tucked because you know I was,
I'm doing that now actually,
so the fronts are, I don't know,
I'm doing the opposite of what Jared's doing,
'cause he's in the room now that I think about it.
My front is, because of turning,
which blows that we have to turn,
but it's fender,
it's about fender to lip,
- But here's the thing-- - Can I give an argument
about one piece though? - Yeah, because that--
- [Jasper] One piece is cool 'cause you can get,
really concaved but it's not common, right?
- But not just that, think about how hard it is to get
fender to lip on one piece cast wheels
that aren't customizable.
- Buy a lot of spacers man, you can do a lot of stuff.
- But imagine not having spacers, and getting a fender
to lip on a one piece cast,
how hard would that be? - What are you
gonna do positive camber?
- No, but think, if you ran
costs was recent like 18 by 11 plus
they just figured it out how to make it work.
Would than not be worth more than three piece
for a tuck side up?
- No, it looks, that's the thing though
it looks good regardless, right?
- Yeah.
- But I think the thing is with cast
'cause regardless of the situation
I guess with three piece you can change,
but how often do you really do that?
- Yeah.
- I bought my wheels hoping they would kinda fit.
Like also-- - I remember you said
the story.
- This roughly would kinda would work,
kinda, you know, I did it, but I wasn't just
gonna buy smaller lips like (beep) that.
- I think I'm thinking about it more from the perspective
of how hard it was gonna be,
versus the look of it.
'Cause I feel like doing it with a one piece cast
would be so much more difficult than doing
with three piece wheels.
- Okay.
- And for that, I would be like, nice work.
- Right.
- So that's just me, but hey what do I know?
- [Man] Light car, like a light weight car--
- Okay, yeah. - Low horsepower
or a heavy car with high horsepower?
- Ooh.
- On three, one, two, three.
- High. - High.
'Cause it's just scooting around
on 4,000, 4,500 pounds with 700 horsepower
or 600 horsepower is so much fun.
- Yeah.
- You're still not that fast,
but you can do the nastiest burnouts.
- Right, yeah.
- Anybody can do a burnout in an Mazda Miata.
Let's be real.
- It's like a numbers thing.
You're like, oh I got a Mazda Miata
and they're like, ooh like it's so fast dude.
It beats everything.
It runs the 11s and (pops lips)
in the quarter mile, you know?
- 230 horse.
- Yeah right, you're like how much is it?
300, so does my golf.
(laughs)
My golf cart also has 300 horsepower.
So it's like, then you know you get the Hellcat
and you're like 800 johnnies in a 5,000 pound big Johnny.
- It's fun, big cars with a lot of horsepower
are a ton of fun because it's a different feeling
I think, where you if you want responsiveness
go for small car with small horsepower.
If you want something that is just a blast to drive around,
big horsepower car.
- Yeah, 700 horsepower feels cool regardless
- Yeah, even like the Scatpack 392s and stuff like that
are an absolute blast to drive.
They have so much power.
- [Jasper] Because we're talking about heavy cars
and muscle cars and yeah.
- Yeah, E 360mgs are the same thing.
Throw an exhaust on that bad boy and a tune
and you're ready to roll like 600 horse.
- E 60.
- E 63.
- No, E 60 M5.
- Yeah that's true too.
- Like it's an V 10 like it's a cool sounding motor
and you're not gonna put a V 10 in a Miata.
- That's true, you can also take an Audi S6
with a D2 and a Girata motor and up-tune it.
You put that tongue back in your mouth.
- It's my lips
(blows raspberry)
Okay yeah, sorry the question comes from what's his name?
- [Man] Hypernako.
- Yeah there we go.
- [Man] He asks lowrider
or hot rod slash restomod.
- Oh my God, that is a really good question.
That's like--
- That's the question.
- Oh I love both, god.
- Hot rod or low rider is what I'm grasping from that right?
I'll start off, I would probably say hot rod then low rider.
So, I feel like a hot rod,
so the low rider I think is very much about
a very specific thing on the car
and I am not well versed in low rider culture.
So if there's people out there that are watching
this video, they're probably gonna get mad
at what I'm about to say,
but I feel like the low riding culture is very,
it came out of the scene because nobody wanted to
race cars anymore, because the 70s came along
and it was a super difficult time with the EPA
and all that stuff, and actually just enjoying
going to the drag strip and stuff.
So then people just started cruising
versus going to the drag strip,
and going to tracks, and stuff like that.
That's ultimately a lot where that
low rider scene came from.
- [Jasper] So you're saying they weren't allowed
to have power so they were just like,
let's make it look cool?
- A lot of it was that and not just that
but it was very difficult to get parts,
it was more expensive, the EPA was in full swing.
So like people just started,
they would save money and they would cruise.
That's how they would enjoy their car when they could.
They didn't take it to the track,
they didn't take it to the drag strip
because it was too much money,
it was too hard to get involved in.
I think as a result, a lot of low rider communities
are very specific to just cruising
and having some wheels, tires, maybe some different stuff.
But the hot rod culture is like the core
and the subcategory of the hot rod is the low rider culture.
So I think the hot rod culture is a little bit neater
and it has way more history than
I think of a lot of low rider culture does.
And the capabilities of having a hot rod car,
I think the amount of creativity,
the cars that you'd have access to,
the things you could do to it
far surpass the low rider culture.
Besides, when's a time that you seen a Bel Air
drive along that you haven't broken your neck at?
And you just been like, oh my god.
- First off, I think my choice would be low rider.
- Okay.
- I think low rider culture is the coolest thing
of all time.
You're talking about pin stripes.
The custom air brush work that goes into low riders,
is phenomenal, right?
It looks like someone slapped a picture on the car, right?
- Didn't that come from the hot rod culture?
- Well it's little mix, right? - Yeah.
- So I think what really changes low riders
is the hydraulics in the end. - Yeah.
- The reinforced frame,
but that's kind of what I was gonna get to with the hot rods
is they're so,
hot rods are some of
the lowest riding cars I've seen at times too.
- Yeah.
- Because this is the way I see hot rods.
It's typically a bucket, it starts as a bucket,
model, I don't know.
The first car that can get a roof on it basically.
And then the second you do super custom work,
I see it as a hot rod.
So, you're talking about flames
and you're adding an exhaust and stuff like that.
- I see Grease.
All right next question.
- [Man] So, next question
comes from Gabriel Ramkissoon.
- Don't even try.
- [Man] Stretched tires or chunky track tires?
- Chunky, chunky like a fat tire?
- That's so subjective though.
So I think that's a tough question to answer
because 315 25s on an 11 is a stretch, technically.
- Technically stretched, yeah.
- So, you can say stretched,
I think a lot of people assume a 195 on a 10.
I like meaty set ups, I think they're super cool
on the right cars.
Nothing makes me happier than seeing an Evo
or something like that on some beefy (beep) TE37s
some R triple A Rs and you're looking at the car like
holy (beep) that thing's gonna fly.
And it probably is completely stocked
but it looks like it's ready to fly.
I think it's just a more aggressive look
but stretched tires give you a lot more versatility
depending on how much you're trying to dial and fit it.
- Yeah, I think you're right.
It's all depending.
There's a Subaru that comes to mind
that has Ts or Brons T37s, air out,
aired out on some tiny flares,
but he's aired out on tire.
Like on flat tire.
Which looks incredible.
It just looks fast,
but I don't want,
if I had a meaty set up on my car,
it would look so bad.
- Yeah. - But--
- Because it's a different look though.
- Yeah, I think I would.
- But don't do stretched tires on stocked suspensions.
You can not do anything like that.
- That was gonna be my reasoning for
if you're talking to the general public.
- Yeah.
- It would be flat tire.
Let's just say flat is fitted tire
because that can go with lowered, stocked suspensions,
stuff like that, because if you go
you know, if you're running like mine.
I have a two 15 40 on a 10.
If you had that in the air.
If had your car in the air.
- Yeah the stock would look terrible.
Next question, final question.
- So wait, hold on, sorry.
Do we both say like flat tire?
- Yeah.
- Okay cool, yeah sorry.
- [Man] So the next and final question
comes from Heckle EM.
Hood exit exhaust or fender exit exhaust?
- Ooh.
- Top exits.
- Yeah. - What did I say?
- [Jasper] No, I'm just saying like tight.
- [Yeah] Yeah, they're just (beep) neat.
And then the moment you pop the hood off
it's all there.
The whole shebang is there.
- Like normally there's a really cool
setup going into
this one pipe. - Yeah and it's
always purposeful, you know?
It just looks good and people that have that,
usually, generally know what they're doing.
- And they normally shoot flames.
- [Alex] And they shoot flames.
- That's normally like the hater pipe.
It's called a hater pipe because it's all like.
(Jasper makes shooting noises with mouth)
- But here's the problem that's the younger Alex
saying yes to the hood.
It always looks like dog (beep) after like two months
because they're doing the two step,
they're firing (beep) into the air,
and everything around that escape
gets burnt, gets torched--
- The wind shields dirty.
I've seen wind shield wipers melted.
I've seen like hood where they cut it,
it'll actually start to melt and peel down.
- Yeah some people do it really well.
- Yeah, but 90 percent of the people that do it
usually do it in the garage.
And then 50 percent of their hood is (beep)
So it's super cool
until you look at the rest of the car
and you see that all of this crap is happening around it
because it's not meant to be there, really.
- Yeah.
- So, I wanna say fender because when you're shooting out of
the fender, or you're shooting out of the side,
it's shooting away from the car
instead of up and then back down.
And you can drive it,
generally speaking, you can drive it more.
So if you have it completely open,
you can't drive the car in any sort of incoming water
because of the water and because of all that stuff.
- Hydro locking.
- And people don't usually recommend it.
- Yeah, they put buckets on top of the--
- And you do that properly
and if you actually install a shield
that I've seen people do, they'll attach a shield
when it's supposed to rain or something like that.
It's safer, it allows you to drive your car more.
It's still cool, it's just not as prominent.
- Yeah, yeah.
It's just like the hood exit.
- [Alex] So baller.
- [Jasper] It's so cool but--
- [Alex] Pew pew pew pew.
- But when it's done right,
I'm gonna go with like Josh Freeman, right?
'Cause he has a real good hood exit.
It's really weld on welds that go all the way up
and it goes past the hood so it doesn't burn it.
And then he's got this super
riveted steel tear drop design around it.
So it's very well done
but fenders are so uncommon for a thing.
I mean everyone is just like,
it almost seems like a cheap out at times
when people are just like. (blows raspberry)
Like, the turbo sticks up, like (beep) it.
Let's just let the pipe go up.
- Are we good?
So that is the last question,
that was a long This or That though.
- I'm okay with that. - Yeah.
- That was a very well--
- We hope you guys enjoyed, we'll actually drop
the questions in the description with times,
so that if you just want to skip past one
and just get to the long (beep) one
that we just rambled on about.
- Yeah. - You can do that.
- Actually that's a good idea.
- 'Cause so that the middle one
was probably, I think my favorite question.
- The low rise and the hot rods?
That was, yeah like a very
well described explained question.
- So let us know what you guys want us to talk about next
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- Hold on, I didn't get to finish.
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- Peace.