INSTAGRAM LIKES, THAT IS.
TO OUR TOP STORY THIS HALF HOUR,
MUELLER REPORT FALLOUT, FORMER
NIXON, LIKE RICHARD NIXON
SPECIAL COUNSEL AND WATERGATE
KEY FIGURE JOHN DEAN SET TO SELF
TODAY AS HOUSE DEMOCRATS SEEK TO
KEEP THE SPOTLIGHT ON THE
MUELLER REPORT.
THE PRESIDENT TWEETING THIS OVER
THE WEEKENDS, FOR TWO YEARS ALL
THE DEMOCRATS TALKED ABOUT WAS
THE MUELLER REPORT BECAUSE THEY
KNEW THAT IT WAS LOADED UP WITH
13 ANGRY DEMOCRAT TRUMP HATERS,
LATER INCREASED TO 18.
BUT DESPITE THE BIAS, WHEN THE
REPORT CAME OUT THE FINDINGS
WERE NO COLLUSION AND FACTS THAT
LED TO NO OBSTRUCTION.
THE DEMS WERE DEVASTATED AFTER
ALL THIS TIME AND MONEY SPENT.
$40 MILLION.
THE MUELLER REPORT WAS A
DISASTER FOR THEM BUT THEY WANT
A REDO OR DOOVER.
THEY ARE EVEN BRINGING IN CNN
SLEAZE BAG ATTORNEY JOHN DEAN.
SORRY, NO DO-OVERS, GO BACK TO
WORK.
JOINING ME NOW, FOX NEWS
JUDICIAL ANALYST, JUDGE ANDREW
--
>> HOW CAN I RESPOND TO THAT?
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DEAN.
I SAID DEMOCRATS SHOULD SEND
KEVIN SPACEY, HE HAS PLENTY OF
TIME, HAVE HIM COME IN AND HAVE
HIM READ THE MUELLER REPORT
ALLOWED.
WHY JOHN DEAN?
WHAT'S HE GOT TO OFFER.
>> I WISH CONGRESSMAN NADLER WHO
REPRESENT THE DISTRICT IN WHICH
WE'RE SEATED AT THE MOMENT, I
WOULD ASK HIM THAT.
I SUPPOSE THEY WANT TO TRY -- TO
ME, IT'S INDEFENSEABLE.
FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW, THE
HOUSE DEMOCRATS, THEY WANT TO
TRY TO A ANALOGIZE DON McGAHN,
THE WHITE HOUSE LEGAL COUNSEL
WHO IS DEFYING A SUBPOENA, IN MY
VIEW A MISTAKE, I CAN TELL YOU
THE WAY I THINK HE SHOULD HANDLE
IT, JOHN DEAN'S LEGAL ROLE, THE
WHITE HOUSE LEGAL COUNSEL IN THE
NIXON YEARS.
WITH RESPECT TO JOHN DEAN, HE
STUNNED THE WATERGATE COMMITTEE.
THERE WERE TWO COMMITTEES, THERE
WAS THE SAM IRVINE COMMITTEE
WHICH HAD HOUSE AND SENATE ON
IT.
THAT WENT ON FOR A YEAR.
AT THE BEGINNING, RICHARD
NIXON'S APPROVAL RATING WAS IN
THE 70s.
AT THE END, THE APPROVAL WAS IN
THE 30s.
I DON'T THINK THE HOUSE
JUDICIARY HAS THAT THIS TIME
BECAUSE OF MUELLER AND BECAUSE
OF CABLE TELEVISION AND
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM AT A
LEVEL THAT DIDN'T EXIST IN THE
NIXON AND WATERGATE ERA, I THINK
WE ALREADY KNOW THE FACTS.
SO PUTTING JOHN DEAN ON, I DON'T
KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO.
IN THE LAW THERE'S TWO KINDS OF
WITNESSES, A FACT WITNESS, A
PERSON WHO PERCEIVED WITH SENSES
SOME RELEVANT EVENT OR AN
OPINION WITNESS, A PERSON WITH
EXPERTISE IN SOME FIELD AND CAN
INTERPRET FACTS FOR THE FACT
FINDER.
I GUESS THEY'RE GOING TO PUT HIM
IN THAT LATTER CATEGORY.
DAGEN: HE WILL BE GRILLED BY
REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE.
>> YES, HE WILL.
DAGEN: IT MIGHT WORK TO THEIR
ADVANTAGE TO PARS THE, QUOTE,
FACTS IN THE WAY THEY WANT TO
VIA JOHN -- USING JOHN DEAN AS A
MOUTH PIECE.
HE'S GOT TO ANSWER TO THE
REPUBLICANS TOO.
>> I THINK IT WILL BE A NEGATIVE
FOR THE DEMOCRATS AT THE END OF
THE DAY BY THE TIME THE
REPUBLICANS FINISH INTERROGATING
HIM.
THEY CAN INTEAR GET HIM ABOUT
ANYTHING -- INTERROGATE HIM
ABOUT ANYTHING HE WANTS, THEY
CAN INTERROGATE HIM ABOUT THE
NIXON YEARS.
HE'S ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE STILL
AROUND FROM THOSE DAYS.
DAGEN: IT'S A HISTORY A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
EVEN I WAS A CHILD DURING THE
WATERGATE HEARINGS.
I'LL POINT SOMETHING ELSE OUT.
YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND DO A
LOT OF READING ON WHAT WAS GOING
ON.
THERE WAS SO MUCH MORE GOING ON
TO HURT NIXON'S APPROVAL RATING.
THERE WAS THE FAILED
CONFIRMATION OF L. PATRICK GRAY
AS THE FBI CHIEF.
HE HAD BEEN THE ACTING CHIEF
DURING THE WATERGATE BREAK-IN.
ALL THESE THINGS STARTED
TUMBLING OUT DURING THE
CONFIRMATION HEARING.
IT WASN'T JUST THE RAYBURN
COMMITTEE AND THE OTHER
WATERGATE --
>> THE VIETNAM WAR RAGING.
DAGEN: AND THE ARAB OIL
EMBARGO.
>> HE WENT FROM ONE OF THE
GREATEST LANDSLIDES IN HISTORY
TO RESIGNATION IN '74.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE TWO
YEARS?
SAM IRVINE.
JOLLY OLD AVUNCULAR CHAIR OF THE
COMMITTEE, KEPT BRINGING WITNESS
AFTER WITNESS, THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT OF WHICH WAS THE
FELLOW WE'LL HEAR FROM THIS
AFTERNOON.
WHAT HE'LL SAYS ABOUT MUELLER
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOTHING
BUT HIS OPINION.
I DON'T KNOW HOW RELEVANT THAT
IS TO A FACT FINDER.
DAGEN: BEFORE WE MOVE ON, DO
YOU THINK MUELLER EVENTUALLY
TESTIFIES?
>> YES, I DO.
DAGEN: YOU DO?
>> YES.
I AM VERY CRITICAL OF LAWYERS
WHO AVOID SUBPOENAS.
IF SOMEBODY SENDS YOU A
SUBPOENA, LEGITIMATE AUTHORITY,
A GRAND JURY, A CONGRESSIONAL
COMMITTEE, AND YOU CAN'T GIVE
THAT INFORMATION, YOU DON'T
DISREGARD IT.
YOU TAKE THAT SUBPOENA TO A
JUDGE AND YOU CHALLENGE IT.
YOU END UP WITH CONTEMPT AND
WITH DAMAGE TO YOUR LEGAL
REPUTATION AND TO YOUR ABILITY
TO PRACTICE LAW WHEN YOU JUST
SIT ON IT.
SO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DON
McGAHN SHOULD NOT BE SITTING
ON THESE SUBPOENAS.
THEY SHOULD CHALLENGE THEM.
DAGEN: LET'S MOVE ON TO
INVESTIGATING THE INVESTIGATORS.
ON SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES
YESTERDAY MARIA SAT DOWN WITH
FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ADVISOR,
CARTER PAGE.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT
HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH FBI
INFORMANT STEPHAN HALPER.
MARIA: WHEN YOU SPOKE WITH
MR. HALPER, WERE YOU UNDER THE
IMPRESSION YOU WERE GETTING
INFORMATION FOR THE STATE
DEPARTMENT, THE CIA AND FBI AT
THAT TIME.
>> I HAD A LONG-STANDING
RELATIONSHIP WITH PROFESSOR
HALPE.
WE'LL SEE.
AGAIN, I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BUT
THIS WAS -- MY CONVERSATIONS
WITH HIM INTENSIFIED RIGHT IN
THE MONTHS BEFORE MY
ILLEGITIMATE FISA WARRANT IN
SEPTEMBER 2016 WHEN ALL THE
DEFAMATORY ARTICLES WERE BEING
PLACED BY THE DNC.
PROFESSOR HALPER WAS BEING
POSITIVE, HE WAS LIKE SORT OF A
HARRIET TUBMAN FIGURE.
HE UNDERSTANDS SORT OF THE
INJUSTICES OF MY -- OR HE
PRESENTED HIMSELF AS
UNDERSTANDING THAT AND I SORT OF
TRUSTED HIM.
DAGEN: JUDGE, YOUR REACTION TO
THAT?
>> THE MORE WE HEAR FROM CARTER
PAGE, AND OF COURSE THE MISSING
PART OF THE PUZZLE IS WHAT WAS
TOLD TO FISA.
THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT'S GOING
TO BE RELEASED NOTWITHSTANDING
HOWLS OF OUTRAGE FROM THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE.
THE MORE WE HEAR FROM CARTER
PAGE, THE MORE THIS SOUNDS LIKE
A CLASSIC SETUP.
INFORMATION PROVIDED TO HIM, FED
TO HIM SO HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING
SO THEY COULD TAPE HIM SAYING
IT, SO THEY COULD TAKE THE
TRANSCRIPT, LOOK WHAT THIS GUY
SAYS, WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE
TRUMP.
THAT IN A NUTSHELL IS WHAT I
BELIEVE IS NOW QUITE APPARENT,
THE FBI DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN
INTELLIGENCE ALL WORKING
TOGETHER TO CONCOCT THIS
INVESTIGATION WHICH ENDED UP
WITH THE MUELLER REPORT.
>> DO YOU THINK JOHN DURHAM IS
GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
THIS?
HE'S GONE AFTER AGENTS BEFORE.
IS THIS SOMETHING HE'S GOING TO
REVIEW?
>> HE'S CERTAINLY GOING TO
REVIEW IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO
GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
WE HEARD THIS IS A FULL-BLOWN
FEDERAL INVESTIGATION WITH A
GRAND JURY.
ANOTHER POINT WE HEARD IT'S A
REVIEW FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
IF IT'S THE LATTER, HE WON'T GET
TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
>> HE HAS THE AUTHORITY IF HE
WANTS TO GO TO THE GRAND JURY.
>> YES, HE DOES.
IF HE'S GOING TO GO THERE, HE'S
PROBABLY GOING TO GO TO THE
BOTTOM OF THIS.
THE LAST TIME HE DID THIS I WAS
CRITICAL OF HIM, THAT WAS CIA
TORTURE, HE WHITE WASHED THE
WHOLE THING.
NOBODY WAS PROSECUTED.
THERE WERE MANY WAR CRIMES
COMMITTED THERE.
DAGEN: KATHERINE HAIRAGE
REPORTED LAST WEEK DURHAM IS
GETTING UP-TO-SPEED.
>> IF KATHERINE IS CORRECT, I
HAVE TO REASON TO DISBELIEVE
THAT.
DAGEN: I PARAPHRASE.
>> WE'LL FIND OUT SOON WHAT HE
KNOWS.
WILL WE FIND IT OUT IN A REPORT
OR INDICTMENT, THAT'S THE
QUESTION.
>> HE'S THE PROSECUTOR DEFINITE
BEFORE THAT WE'LL HEAR FROM
MICHAEL HOROWITZ, THE INSPECTOR
GENERAL IN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT HIS REPORT IS COMING
OUT IN A FEW WEEKS.
>> I THINK SO.
DAGEN: THAT WILL BE FOCUSED WE
THINK STRICTLY ON THE FISA
WARRANT AND ABUSES THERE.
>> I SAID THIS TIME AND TIME
AGAIN.
THE PROBLEM IS FISA ITSELF.
ITS SECRECY, ITS LOW BAR
FOR ISSUING SUBPOENAS, ITS AWFUL
TRACK RECORD OF 99.9% OF ALL
SEARCH WARRANTS REQUESTED GRANT.
DAGEN: I SHAKE MY HEAD, THE
FACT THAT THE FBI CADET
SURVEILLANCE WARRANT ON AN
AMERICAN CITIZEN, SOMEBODY
WORKING FOR ONE PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN, USING INFORMATION PAID
FOR BY THE PRESIDENT, THE
CAMPAIGN OPPONENT.
THAT'S JUST SHOCKING AND
APPALLING AND I THINK EVERYBODY
SHOULD BE --
>> BOTTOM LINE IS, THEY CAN DO
THIS TO DONALD TRUMP, NOW THEY T
THIS TO DONALD TRUMP, NOW THEY E
MOST POWERFUL PERSON ON THE
PLANET, THEY CAN DO THIS TO
ANYBODY.
DAGEN: IT WILL BITE YOU.