You might want to cancel your trips
to Disney World this summer.
Because this customer Jonathan
Vanboskerck, yes got his name
Jonathan Vanboskerck opened
his editorial by explaining
that he and his family go to
Disney World every year and
take a Disney cruise every...
Jonathan Van Boskerckwrote an op
ed in Orlando Sentinel,
about the Disney business model
that he used to love and
has now changed so much that they
just might lose him as a customer.
So let's get started with
the beginning of
what he was writing here.
When he said, unfortunately I'm
strongly rethinking our commitment
to Disney and, thus, Orlando.
The more Disney moves away from the
values and vision of Walt Disney,
the less Disney world means to me.
[COUGH] Disney is forgetting that
guests immersion is at the core
of its business model.
He went on to say,
Walt Disney used his corporation
to express his patriotism,
[LAUGH] during World War II, and
its pro capitalism really believes
afterwards.
The difference today is that
the people who run Disney use
social media to scream to the whole
world that a decision has been made
for political reasons.
Let's go through a few more of
his thoughts.
Specifically, he had an issue with
what was going on in some of these
Reits Trader Sam, I don't go to
Disney World so I don't know
anything about Trader Sam.
But Trader Sam is out because he
might offend certain people he
writes, every grown up in the room
realizes the Trader Sam is
not a representation of reality.
And is no more based on racism than
every other Disney caricature of
an out of touch white American dad.
The same with Pirates of
the Caribbean.
Disney has made significant changes
to Pirates of the Caribbean over
the years.
Whether Disney caved to political
pressure or
really thought that alterations
were necessary is irrelevant.
This should matter to the people in
Orlando because if,
Disney drives away customers like
me Orlando loses money.
I can take my tourist
dollars elsewhere.
[LAUGH] Disney,
please turn to the eyes and
vision of Walt.
The customer experience should be
that the core of your business
model, immersion should not be
sacrificed on the altar of
political correctness and
appeasing that Twitter mob.
Last he's also a Christian
conservative and he pointed
that out in the article as well.
Are you guys going to go
there anymore?
This bastion of libs?
>> Well, okay, so there's so
many parts of this number one,
because there I've been trying
boycott of Disney for decades now.
I remember covering it
in the late 1990s,
and why did they do it back then?
They said, now they allow their gay
employees have the same rights
as the straight employees.
Well, we hate that,
I mean they get health care and
benefits and stuff, that's supposed
to be just frustrate people.
So they tried this big boycott of
Disney, the worst boycott in
American history.
>> I didn't hear about it.
>> Yeah,
of course nobody did it, right?
And they loved Disney, Disneyland
hang on boy got it, right?
It didn't work at all, and so,
this isn't going to work either,
but let's go to the content of what
he's saying.
So I actually think this story is
important because it goes towards
the conservative mindset.
There's a couple factors here.
Number one is they don't want
anything to change ever, right?
But what if the thing that happened
in the past was really bad?
No, I don't want to change, okay?
But wait a minute we had slavery in
the past,
didn't we want that to change?
Some of this stuff was in reference
to slavery that we don't still want
that, do we?
No, didn't even change, right?
There is a use of a character in
the Disney universe.
And it was actually I think
Donald Duck was Combat Duck or
something and Commando Duck and
he was horribly racist against
Japanese people, why?
Because it was during World War II
and we're fighting them and
I don't know if you know this but
we used to do a lot of
propaganda against our enemies.
And so that was the Huns of Germany
of course, the Barbaric Turks
during World War I and
the racism against Japanese were
unbelievable during World War II
and we did internment camps etc.
And so when they had that very
racist song against the Japanese
they thought it's kind of awkward,
we should probably take this
one down.
[LAUGH] But people like then, boss
Abbas Kirk or whatever his name is,
all right, no we can't change at
all, I love that.
So why did you love that song?
Okay, now he didn't specifically
talk about that song to be fair,
but it goes through the point.
I'm going to give you one last
example of something that should
change, right?
In the Pirates of the Caribbean
exhibit that he actually does refer
to in his editorial.
They have something called
a Bride Auction where they purchase
women and then raped them.
That was the history of
the bride auctions,
the Pirates really did do that.
We're not erasing the history of
that and that's an interesting and
uncomfortable as creating.
By the way, if we tried to teach
that in the schools,
probably this guy would be
opposed to teaching, right?
[LAUGH] >> The actual history of
it, but in this, not a ride, but
the little thing that they put on
exhibit that they had in Disney
World, it was said the banner read
auction, take a wench for a bride.
And then the animatronic robot or
whatever, the woman would lift up
her skirt and shore legs and
twirls back and forth.
And then the auctioneer would say,
we want the redhead etc, right?
So it was literally an auction to
buy women.
Do you really want your daughters
to see that?
Maybe he does,
[LAUGH] I don't know.
But I'd say pretty good idea to
change that, [LAUGH] okay, so I got
one more thing I wanted to say but
Julie, I want you to jump in.
>> It's really funny, and I don't
mean to, sounds sexist in this, but
when I was reading the article,
I actually thought it was written
by somebody named Karen.
And reality is,
it was somebody named Jonathan,
writing this article and
as a mother of four I was thinking,
my God,
I bet he's been to Disney World so
many times and
his kids have aged up and
they're miserable and
he's miserable.
And he's misdirecting all of his
anger towards Disney's
new policies, it's probably
time to kill the Disney vacations
with your 16 year old son who's not
enjoying them anymore.
>> Julie that's so
interesting that you say that,
because earlier in the show we
cover the story of Ron Johnson
Republican Senator from Wisconsin.
And we did get a chance to comment
it, but he said something
weird that had nothing to do with
this topic at hand.
It was about vaccinations and
he's got a conspiracy theory on
that and stuff.
But he said,
they're affecting our kids,
I think that they're all getting
feedback from their kids who
are now all progressives, right?
Because 80% of the Gen Z and
Millennials are progressive say
we're somewhere between 70 and 80%.
I think Julie is onto something
that this guy's- [CROSSTALK] >> Our
kids, he said and
I make them go crazy, next,
they don't have to do it anymore,
society will do it for them.
>> Yeah, so, they're looking at and
they're, now our kids think we
shouldn't even be
racist against Japanese people.
What is this world coming to?
Right, so, [LAUGH]
>> They're going to vote for
Democrats when they turn 18.
>> Yep.
>> Exactly that's their number one
fear, but I want to make a second
point, the whole focus on being pro
capitalism is so
wonderfully ironic here.
Because why is this the making
these decisions?
Because they're all big liberals,
no executives that decide he want
to maximize profit.
And if they don't maximize profit,
they will be fired.
How do you maximize profit by
appealing to the greatest number of
people?
The good news for the country is
even though there's still these
Republican monsters running around
these retrogrades, etc.
Most of the country is now clearly
progressive and especially among
the young, under 45 year olds
are massively progressive.
That's why Nike did
the Colin Kaepernick ad.
That's why Disney,
sorry, yeah, maybe we
shouldn't have women auctions.
[LAUGH] Right, and we shouldn't do
these things at all, and
we should change with the times so
we can make more money.
The reason Disney's doing it is
because they are pro capitalist.
>> The free market society and
capitalism, this only applies
when Republicans like it to
benefit themselves whenever that is
changing the narrative and
they have to actually do something
differently.
They aren't totally against free
markets, they're against
with democracy we've seen that also
worse because they're losing their
power, that's their issue.
So also one of the things,
you talk about boycotts and
all these things don't work.
You know why boycott of
Disney World won't work?
Is because, your kids
are going to say, hey Dad,
let's go to Disney World.
They're going to say no son because
there's too many politically
correct things happen in
Disney World, he's going to lose
his mind you're going to go to
Disney World anywhere.
Ted Cruz's against
the entire country of Mexico slows
the Republican Party.
He went down to
Mexico because his daughter said,
let's go Dad, and boy did he go?
You're going to go when the kids
say hey, you know what,
I'm on spring break, let me go,
trust you will.
>> [LAUGH] Yes, and
these guys are trying to hold on to
a time that number one wasn't that
good to begin with.
And number two,
it is a futile effort.
And the corporations have already
realized that the people trying to
hold on to the bad past have lost.
The ironic thing is
the thing they're most complaining
about is capitalism.