- Hey, everyone!
So, different setting.
We're in a hotel room!
It's Playlist Live.
This is Tim H.
- Hello!
- Cheers.
We also have Dodie behind the camera.
- [Dodie] Hello, it is me!
(laughter)
- Dodie in person.
Hello!
- So, I saw these videos
from this channel called WatchCut Video,
where they got different people to answer questions,
and it's called Truth or Drink.
And they either have to tell the truth to the question,
or, if they don't want to tell the truth, they take a drink.
They do these little games with different kinds of people.
Sometimes, they do it with ex's.
Shock horror, Tim and I use to go out.
- [Dodie] Duh, duh, duh.
- Twist!
Oh my God, two YouTubers have fucked?
No.
- That's literally the start
of the drunk advice that we did.
Anyways, so Dodie has come up with
a bunch of questions that we don't know,
and they're about our relationship then
and our relationship now.
And then we to either honestly answer it,
but if we don't want to honestly answer it,
we don't have shots,
but we're just gonna chug a lot of beer, I guess.
Here's the thing, Tim and I are really good friends now,
and are very open with each other
about the past and present.
So, I feel like we might not drink at all.
So, we're just gonna be sipping throughout.
(laughter)
- [Dodie] Firstly, both of you, what were you?
- What were we?
- [Together] Dating.
- Yeah, we weren't boyfriend or girlfriend.
- That was in sync.
- [Dodie] How long for?
- Two, three months.
- Yeah, it wasn't long.
- [Dodie] How did you guys hookup?
What led to it?
- I needed a place to stay in London!
I feel like--
- We went to a movie.
- We did!
What did we go see?
- Uh.
- I have no memory of that.
- Martha--
- Martha Molly May Marlene?
- Something, Martha Marcy May.
Whatever that--
- Yeah!
Ah, good film.
- And then it was like, "Oh, I also need a place to stay."
And I was like, "Oh."
- We met because I was hooking up with someone else.
And then--
(laughter)
Okay, yeah, good?
Just remembered that.
- [Dodie] Okay, why did you guys break up?
- Do you wanna?
I'm the one that comes off badly.
So, do you want to tell it?
I mean, we broke up because, I don't know,
one of us wasn't interested in the relationship at the time.
- Me?
- Yeah, exactly.
It was weird because I, at the time,
had only had one major relationship.
- Yeah.
- And I remember it being, it was like,
at first I remember getting the vibe,
at least off my memory,
that you were pushing for a relationship.
'Cause I remember you being--
- Yeah, I do that.
- Yeah, I remember you being like, sort of like,
"Oh, I don't usually feel this way, and blah, blah, blah."
And then I remember just--
- And then I switched.
I switched within a few hours.
I actually changed my mind.
- Yeah, and that's how I remember it.
- Sorry 'bout that.
- What did I do wrong?
(laughter)
In those two hours.
- [Dodie] Tim, is there something you're angry about
that you haven't talked about?
- Ugh.
- No.
- Really?
'Cause we did talk about it.
- Yeah.
- We hashed it all out.
- Yeah.
- [Dodie] Is there something you were angry about at the time
that you haven't talked about?
- No, because we basically had a conversation I wanna say--
- About six months later?
- Properly at VidCon or something.
- Yeah.
- Where it was just like,
"Alright, these are the things I thought weren't cool,"
and then once they were said out loud,
they were genuinely aside.
- 'Cause we weren't friends
between breaking up and that conversation.
- Yeah, we had that little distance.
We had that break.
And then, for me at least, it was like,
'cause we spoke about it,
it didn't feel like there was an unsaid issue
or something like that.
And then after that it was cool.
And it only got better!
- I think so, yeah.
- After that it only improved.
- Cheers!
Aren't we great?
(laughter)
- [Dodie] I'm about to rip that up!
- Oh, Dodie's gonna fuck some shit up!
- [Dodie] Well, Hannah you seem surprised at that.
Do you have anything you want to apologize for?
(laughter)
- For the 180, I guess.
I don't know it's just, how old were we?
19, 20?
This was three, four years ago.
- Yeah.
- We dated four years ago, maybe even.
Also, it was long distance!
- Sure, yeah.
- I already think I have apologized for that before, so--
- [Dodie] Yeah, but do it again!
- I'm really sorry, Tim.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
- It's okay!
- [Dodie] What happened?
What was your breakup?
- I was staying at your's for the weekend,
and you walked me to the station for me to go home,
and I just broke up with you at the station.
I was like, I don't remember what I said.
- I think we broke up before then.
I feel like we broke up in the room.
- No, it was really awkward when we were still at your's.
- Yeah, well because that was the thing.
Then we had to, then we had to walk to the station.
- Really?
- But we kinda knew what was up.
- No, I think we both knew what was up,
because it was awkward and then I finally said it
once we were leaving.
That's my memory of it, anyways.
- [Dodie] Have you gotten jealous
about the people I've been with after you?
- No.
- You've had proper relationships since we've broken up,
whereas I've been single this whole time.
- Now and it's weird,
'cause I think for me, a lot of it is,
there was enough time and it had to be an end.
At the time, I think the,
and I don't know whether this was before or after VidCon--
- I went back to the person.
- Yeah, that hurt at the time.
- Yeah.
- And then after that it was fine.
- [Dodie] Sorry, what was this?
- So, you know how we said that me and Tim met
when I was hooking up with someone else?
- [Dodie] Right.
- Yeah.
- And then after we broke up, I went back to that person.
- [Dodie] Oh, okay.
- Yeah, which I think at the time hurt.
Not to get deep about it.
- Let's try to get deep.
Let's get deep!
- Yeah.
I guess you have to keep in mind,
you were my second person I was actually with.
- You also lied to me about that!
- Like--
- So the way that you kind of said it to me
was you would talk about these girls
that you used to like go out with or do things with,
and in my head,
I just assumed that meant you'd had sex with them.
- Yeah.
- So in my head,
you'd slept with like a certain amount of people.
- Yeah, yeah.
- And then you eventually told me
that I was the second person,
and I was like, "What?"
- 'Cause it took me a year after my first girlfriend
to feel comfortable to actually do that with someone else.
I could go the exact same experience we had now,
and it would be totally different.
- Yeah.
- But at the time, you were the second person,
and the first person since that person
who I was able to go all the way with.
So, that is like a thing for me,
where I was like, "Oh my God, this is a big deal!"
- [Dodie] Are you still attracted to the other person?
- Yeah, to an extent, I think.
- I have moments.
(laughter)
Moments.
I like that.
Let's go with that, moment.
- New Year's!
(laughter)
- [Dodie] Would you guys sleep together again?
- Under the right circumstances.
- I agree.
It doesn't mean I would actively pursue it, I don't think.
- Uh-huh.
- But if it happened.
- Yeah.
- I don't know.
- I wouldn't hate it.
(laughter)
I remember, in fact, that we flip-flopped on certain things.
- What?
- I remember, I think it was,
I think it might have been that weird time
when we were all sleeping over at my place.
- With Jack?
- Yeah, and there was a moment when you we're just like,
"Never, I haven't thought of you in that way at all!"
And then it was really funny,
because then New Year's happened, and--
- At that point, I don't think I had though.
- I remember the thing that,
I remember the night with the bikes,
and that we got home drunk together,
and then we spent the night together.
We slept in the same bed and we spooned.
- I remember the bike thing, but yeah.
- And then we had a weird,
and we had a weird conversation following it,
being sort of like,
it was like, "Oh, we're fine, right?"
And I remember saying, "Yeah, obviously."
- Yeah.
- And then, but that was a thing.
- I don't remember spooning that night,
but I remember the bikes thing!
I tell people about that all the time.
Anytime I'm at Canary Wharf,
I'm like, "Me and Tim stole a Boris Bike once."
(laughter)
There was a Boris Bike that was unlocked,
and we got drunk and just started riding it!
- We got drunk and we just--
- [Dodie] Yeah!
- Had a thing.
- [Dodie] Make out for three seconds,
or take, I put three shots, but you don't have--
- But we've just been drinking constantly.
Make out for three seconds?
- [Dodie] Well, then make out for three seconds,
or down the last of that wine!
- But Dodie, you're watching in the camera!
- [Dodie] I'll look away.
I mean, it's gonna be online.
- No, no you can get in on this, Dodie.
- Yeah, come on Dots.
- Let me join in.
(laughter)
- Post New Year's.
- [Dodie] Stop now!
- Okay, sorry.
(laughter)
- [Dodie] That was a very weird moment.
(laughter)
- You should've been counting!
- That was weird.
- Right, do you want another one?
- Sure.
We've not really been having a moment of,
"I don't really want to answer this."
It's exactly what you predicted would happen!
- [Dodie] Do you have any funny, weird sex moments?
- Wait, about each other?
- [Dodie] Yeah.
- Oh no, I think we had really boring sex.
Whoa!
(laughter)
- Yeah, no I absolutely agree.
I do remember thinking,
I don't know whether it was after one of our weird nights,
or somewhere for New Year's, or whatever,
but I remember having a moment of being like,
"Oh, I wish I could show her that I'm better now."
(laughter)
I'm so much better now!
- [Dodie] I love that so much.
- Because I'm just like, "Oh, she got the shit me."
"She got the version of me that didn't know."
- I do feel that as well,
'cause we were really good friends when you
and some of your ex's were going out,
and you'd tell me about your sex life with them.
And I was like, "Damn, it sounds like he's good in bed now!"
And I was like, "Dammit!"
- I feel like I can give myself a pass for the fact that
well, you know, second sexual partner ever.
You were a big deal at the time because it was like,
I wasn't used to someone, and at the time,
I'm sure by now this probably sounds funny for you,
And it's like, you were communicative.
I remember my first girlfriend it was just kinda like,
"We just kinda did it!"
We didn't really hear anything.
Whereas I specifically,
alright, this can't go in.
- Also!
- This is too specific and sexual, I can't put this in.
- Okay, but what?
- [Dodie] Hey, don't make me put my ear in the conversation!
- Are you paying attention to this?
- Dodie, I'm so sorry you're having to listen to this.
- [Dodie] Oh, this is so much weirder than I--
(laughter)
- I don't think you realize how open
me and Tim are with each other.
- [Dodie] I don't know what to say.
- I would like to state that Dodie volunteered for this role.
- I didn't realize it would get so weird!
Here's a question.
Dare the other person to do something.
- Dare?
- [Dodie] Uh-huh.
- Like one each?
- [Dodie] Yeah.
- Oh, I know!
So, Tim told us recently that he did
a stereotypical trip to Vegas and got a lap dance.
So, I want him to imitate on me his lap dance.
(laughter)
Give me what she did to you.
- Alright.
- Ah!
- So, it's like--
- Oh, God.
- So, it's like this, right?
- [Dodie] Wow, okay.
- Is this weird?
So, I'm convincing you to get the credit card and stuff,
while I'm talking to you.
- [Hannah] Oh my gosh.
- And doing all this.
Feeling you down here, because I'm--
- [Dodie] Ugh!
(laughter)
- But he needs to dare me to do something now.
- [Dodie] Oh, yes you do.
- Ugh, I can't think of anything.
Name all the YouTubers you've slept with!
(laughter)
- Okay, how about I say the number
of YouTubers I've slept with?
- Sure.
- But I don't name them.
Where's my phone?
I have a list.
- I'm trying to think how many of mine are YouTubers.
- [Dodie] Do I ever pop into your head
when you're masturbating?
- No.
- [Dodie] Oh!
- Sorry.
- Maybe.
Probably once or twice since.
- Yeah, once or twice in four years is not that much.
- [Dodie] If you could do it again, what would you redo?
- Now, at the age of 24?
- [Dodie] Yeah, sure.
- Or go back in time?
We'd still be long distance!
You live in LA.
Like, it wouldn't work.
- [Dodie] No, no, no, go back in time!
- Oh, go back in time?
But I didn't live in London then.
I lived in Birmingham.
- [Dodie] What would you do?
(laughter)
- This is reminding me of a weird thing.
'Cause I remember
I attended the Sexual Health Awards with you.
- Oh God, with my mum!
- Yeah, and you said something
really funny to me that evening when you said,
"You became who I wanted to date at the time."
- Oh, yeah, I'll talk about that.
- Which was an interesting--
- So, I've already,
see, I've already told you this!
But, for Dodie's sake, and your sake,
yeah, when we were going out,
you were a lot more introverted, and quiet,
and shy, and not that confident.
But, I was very much attracted to those kind of people,
'cause of the mystery and blah, blah, blah.
And I've since learned
that I'm not suited to be with that kind of person.
I'm very much better at being with a person
who is extroverted, and really confident,
and outgoing, and blah, blah, blah.
And you basically became that person after we broke up.
- Sure, but here's the thing.
This might be weird.
So, maybe qualify this with saying,
it doesn't come with an ounce of upset
or unhappiness with where we are now.
I'm totally--
- Yeah.
- I think there's a version of us
in our lives where we work.
- Do you think we end up together?
- I don't know, but we last longer.
- Okay.
- Because I think we are,
I think we're both driven people
who respect that the other person is driven.
And we could be,
I think we have the qualities of a power couple.
- Oh my God, fuck yes!
- Does that make sense?
- But also, I think we would never date now
if you're living in LA.
- No, I agree.
- Fuck no.
- Okay, so you say, "Would you do anything differently?"
I'm like, not really, 'cause I'm happy with where it is.
- Yeah.
- I'm cool with like--
(burp)
I'm cool with pals.
Hot.
- [Dodie] Who's better in bed?
- Now, I don't know,
but at the time, me.
- Yeah.
- [Dodie] Why don't you find out?
- Oh my God, Dodie you're an enabler.
- Well, you know.
- [Dodie] Are you happy with where you are now?
- Yes.
- Yeah.
- Pals.
- Done.
Nailed it.
Where's your drink?
Fuck's sake.
Killin' it.
Are we setting a good example for the children?
- I like to think.
I've said it before, communication's at the heart of it.
Also, I like to think we prove that sexual attraction
doesn't eliminate that it can be a sincere friendship.
- Yeah.
- I would argue this applies to all
friendships and relationships.
And there's something to be said about,
if you're able to just say it.
Say what's on your mind.
- Yeah.
- And then figure it out.
So, I don't know.
- Great, thank you for watching.
Please give this video a thumbs up if you enjoyed it.
Thanks to Dodie for being our moderator.
(applause)
- [Dodie] I'm applauding myself.
- I apologize she had to deal with this.
- I'm so sorry, Dodie!
Thanks to Tim for being a good sport and a great friend.
Please subscribe.
Alright, bye!
- Bye!
- This was good.
We're gonna go party at Playlist now.
(smooth music)