ELIZABETH: EDWARD LAWRENCE THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
JOINING ME NOW FORMER DEPUTY
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR KT
KT MCFARLAND AND ROB O’NEILL, HE
IS THE FORMER NAVY SEAL TO
KILLED OSAMA BIN LADEN.
ROB, FIRST TO YOU, CARNEGIE GET
THOSE THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS OUT
NOW?
HOW WOULD YOU DO IT?
>> YEAH, WE CAN GET THEM OUT
NOW.
WE JUST NEED A LOT OF MARINES
AND A LOT OF 82nd AIRBORNE
AT THE AIRFIELD TO LET THE
TALIBAN KNOW, I’M AMAZED WE’RE
TELLING THE TALIBAN WHAT WE’RE
DOING, GETTING PERMISSION, TELL
THEM WE’RE KILLING EVERYONE IN A
GUN.
IT WILL NOT TAKE ONE DAY BUT A
NUMBER OF WEEKS.
EVERY TIME WE MEET THE TALIBAN
FACE-TO-FACE WE CRUSH THEM.
WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN.
WE NEED STRENGTH.
IT IS TIME FOR THIS
ADMINISTRATION TO ADMIT WE’RE
WRONG WITH THE PULLOUT.
NOW WE’LL FIX IT.
I’M A BIG BELIEVER DOESN’T
MATTER HOW YOU GOT WHERE YOU’RE
GOING, YOU’RE JUST THERE NOW.
WE’RE JUST HERE NOW.
WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED
US AND USE AMERICAN MIGHT,
COALITION MIGHT AND GO GET THEM.
ELIZABETH: KT, I HEAR WHAT ROB
IS SAYING THEY’RE SAYING THE
ROAD TO THE KABUL AIRPORT IS
BLOCKED.
THE WHITE HOUSE STILL DOES NOT
KNOW HOW MANY AMERICANS ARE
STRANDED.
IT IS EXPECTED TO BE SEVERAL
THOUSAND.
FEARS THEY CAN’T REACH THE KABUL
AIRPORT IN TIME.
THE U.S. EMBASSY SAYING THERE
WILL BE DELAYS DUE TO
CHECKPOINTS, GET THERE ON YOUR
OWN BUT ROB IS SAYING SOMETHING
ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TO THAT.
WHAT DO YOU SAY?
>> ROB IS RIGHT.
IT IS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT A
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
IS LEAVING AMERICAN CITIZENS
BEHIND IN AFGHANISTAN, KNOWING
WHAT FATE AWAITS THEM.
HE IS DOING IT, WHY?
BECAUSE HE IS TRUSTING THE WORLD
OF THE TALIBAN OR I GUESS TAKING
HIS ORDERS FROM THE TALIBAN
GETTING THE AMERICAN MILITARY
OUT THERE HAVE AT A CERTAIN
POINT?
WE HAVE AMERICAN CITIZENS ALL
OVER AFGHANISTAN.
THEY’RE NOT JUST IN KABUL.
THEY’RE NOT JUST WORKING FOR THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT.
THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO TEACH
SCHOOL, THE GIRLS IN PARTS OF
AFGHANISTAN.
WE HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE
CIVILIANS WORKING ON A FARMING
PROJECT IN ANOTHER PART OF
AFGHANISTAN.
THESE PEOPLE ARE ALONE.
THEY HAVE NO WAY OF GETTING TO
KABUL AIRPORT.
IT IS NOT LIKE YOU GET IN YOUR
CAR TO DRIVE FROM WASHINGTON TO
BOSTON.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO WAY
OF GETTING FROM ONE PLACE TO
ANOTHER AND EVEN IF THEY HAD A
CAR, TO DRIVE TO KABUL AIRPORT
THEY WOULD BE STOPPED EVERY MILE
OR SO BECAUSE EVERYBODY IN
AFGHANISTAN HAS AN AK-47 AND
THEY’RE ALL GOING TO BE OUT ON
THE ROADS LOOKING FOR AMERICANS,
LOOKING FOR BRIBES.
MY CONCERN, AND I THINK I GET IT
LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION, THEY KEEP SAYING
THIS, WE’LL EVACUATE ALL
AMERICANS WHO WANT TO LEAVE,
THEIR DEFINITION OF WHO WANTS TO
LEAVE IS THE PEOPLE WHO GET
THEMSELVES TO KABUL AIRPORT IN
TIME BY AUGUST 30 FIR.
IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS SETTING
THENSELVES UP TO SAY THE OTHER
GUYS DIDN’T WANT TO LEAVE.
ELIZABETH: SO THIS IS GOING TO
BE A CLINTON MOMENT, DEPENDS ON
WHAT THE MEANING OF THE WORD IS,
IS?
THEY WILL REALLY TO THERE?
ROB, YOU HEAR WHAT KT IS SAYING,
YOU HEAR WHAT TRUMP’S POSITION
WAS, HIS PLAN, NATO, SECURITY
COUNCIL SAID YES TO THAT PLAN.
IT WAS CONDITIONS BASED, CUT OFF
TIES TO AL QAEDA.
WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN ACCOUNT FOR
AMERICAN AS AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT IS WHAT PATEL IS SAYING,
BIDEN DUMP AD PLAN.
DIDN’T HAVE A PLAN.
HOUSE INTELLIGENCE SHARE ADAM
SCHIFF SAYING QUOTE, VERY
UNLIKELY EVACUATIONS WILL BE
DONE BY AUGUST 31st AND THEY
CAN’T ACCOUNT FOR EVERY
AMERICAN.
YOU SEE WHAT IS GOING ON, ROB?
>> ISN’T IT CRAZY THEY’RE
ALREADY MAKING EXCUSES KNOWING
THEY SCREWED UP BUT KNOWING THEY
CAN FIX IT TOO?
WE ALWAYS KNEW ON THE GROUND
EVENTUALLY WE’LL HAVE TO
NEGOTIATE WITH THE TALIBAN AT
SOME POINT BECAUSE THEY’RE JUST
THERE.
THEY HAVE BEEN RIGHT ACROSS THE
BORDER IN PAKISTAN THE ENTIRE
TIME.
THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING THIS THE
ENTIRE TIME BUT WE NEEDED TO
GIVE THEM CONDITIONS.
CERTAINLY DON’T WANT THEM
SURROUNDING THE AIRPORT.
THEY’RE GIVING US A TIMELINE.
AN ULTIMATUM WHICH IS COMPLETE
NONSENSE.
THESE ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE.
THEY SHOULDN’T BE TREATED AS A
LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT WHICH
WE’RE DOING AND WE’RE DOING
EVERYTHING THEY WANT BECAUSE I’M
CONVINCE AD LOT OF PEOPLE IN
THIS ADMINISTRATION AT THE
PENTAGON KNOW WHEN WE GET
EVERYONE OUT OF THERE THERE
WON’T BE ANYMORE TELEVISION ON
AFGHANISTAN, NO INTERNET IN
AFGHANISTAN, NO MORE SOCIAL
MEDIA.
WE’LL FORGET WHAT IS GOING ON
OVER THERE AND NOT THINK ABOUT
THE PEOPLE HAVING THEIR HEADS
CUT OFF IN FRONT OF THEIR
FAMILIES.
ELIZABETH: WE’RE HEARING THAT.
U.N. HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSIONER,
KT, SAYING THERE IS A RISE,
UNITED NATIONS IS SAYING THIS A
RISE IN STREET EXECUTIONS
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW INCLUDING
VARIOUS SEXUAL ASSAULTS AND
MORE.
BIDEN’S APPROVAL RATING PLUNGING
NEARLY 10%AGE POINTS, HISTORIC
FALL IN ONE WEEK TO 41%.
NEW "USA TODAY" UNIVERSITY
SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY POLL SHOWS
THAT.
THE MAJORITY DISAGREE WITH HOW
HE IS HANDLING THIS.
WHEN YOU SEE THAT, THE WAY
THEY’RE TOPSPINNING THIS,
REPUBLICAN BEN SASSE SAYING TELL
THE TALIBAN WE’RE GETTING
EVERYONE OUT AS LONG AS IT TAKES
DAMN THE DEADLINE, IS THAT WHAT
YOU WOULD HAVE TOLD THEM?
>> I WOULD PROBABLY ALSO SAY,
YOU HARM THE HEAD OF ONE
AMERICAN, WE’LL COME GET YOU AND
YOUR FAMILY AND COUSINS
EVERYBODY ELSE.
YOU WILL NOT DO THIS TO
AMERICANS.
I WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NEXT,
I THINK THE PRICE OF THIS, THE
BIDEN PRESIDENCY IS FINISHED.
HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO RECLAIM
THE COMPETENCY OF THE AMERICAN
PRESIDENT.
HE SEEMS WHAT HE IS.
HE IS INCOMPETENT, INCOHERENT,
HE IS UNCARING.
HIS PRESIDENCY IS FINISHED.
I DON’T WANT AMERICA TO BE
FINISHED.
I DON’T WANT THIS TO BE THE
INFLECTION POINT, ALL THE
COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, G7, THEY
SAY WE’LL NOT FOLLOW AMERICA
ANYMORE.
AMERICA WON’T SAVE ITS OWN
PEOPLE MUCH LESS US AND WHERE
OUR ADVERSARIES TAKE ADVANTAGE
OF US.
IT IS A CARDINAL RULE OF FOREIGN
POLICY IF YOUR ADVERSARY, WEAK,
DISTRACTED, IN TROUBLE OF ANY
SORT, THAT IS WHEN YOU MAKE THE
MOVE.
I THINK CHINA MAKES A MOVE ON
TAIWAN NEXT COUPLE MONTHS
KNOWING THEY WILL GET NO
RESPONSE, NO PUSHBACK FROM THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THAT WILL
HAVE RAMIFICATIONS THAT THE
UNITED STATES WILL LIVE WITH FOR
100 YEARS.
ELIZABETH: GOT IT.
IT IS CLEAR, BY THE WAY, KT
MENTIONED THE G7 AND ALSO OUR
U.S. ALLIES AND NATO ARE SHOCKED
AND OUTRAGED WHAT IS GOING ON,
ROB, BIDEN ASSURED THEM IN JUNE
JUST TWO MONTHS AGO, IT WOULD BE
A STABLE, A STABLE WITHDRAWAL.
THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
BY THE WAY, IT WAS NATO THAT
INVOKED ARTICLE V AFTER 9/11
SAYING ONE MEMBER IS ATTACKED
WE’RE ALL ATTACKED.
IT IS CLEAR THE PRESS, THE PRESS
ROB HAD IT WITH THE DISSEMBLING
AND PREVARICATION.
WATCH JAKE SULLIVAN, NSA,
REFUSING TO COMMIT THAT BIDEN
WILL SECURE KABUL AIRPORT UNTIL
EVERY AMERICAN IS OUT AN WATCH
AS CBS REPORTER ASK THE PENTAGON
SPOKESMAN ARE YOU BEING
DELIBERATELY VAGUE ON THE NUMBER
OF AMERICANS STILL STRANDED.
LET’S WATCH THIS.
>> HAS THE PRESIDENT DECIDED
WHETHER HE IS GOING TO NEED MORE
TIME BEYOND AUGUST 30 FURS TO
GET ALL U.S. PERSONNEL AND
AFGHAN PEOPLE OUT OF THE
COUNTRY?
>> AS I SAID THE PRESIDENT
BELIEVES WE ARE MAKING
SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS.
>> THE BROADER POINT I WOULD
MAKE IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF COUNSELOR
OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THIS
BUILDING AND AROUND THE WORLD.
>> OKAY.
I’M NOT INTERESTED IN A BROADER
POINT, I’M INTERESTED IN ANSWER
TO THE QUESTION.
ARE YOU STILL SENDING PEOPLE
THERE?
>> IF IT’S A MATTER OF CHECKING
THE NUMBER CAN YOU DO THAT AND
GIVE IT TO US OR IF YOU’RE BEING
DELIBERATELY VAGUE TELL ME WHY
YOU’RE BEING DELIBERATELY VAGUE?
>> I THINK I WILL LEAVE IT AT
SEVERAL THOUSAND RIGHT NOW.
ELIZABETH: THAT IS WHAT IS SO
SHOCKING, ROB.
THEY DON’T KNOW HOW MANY
AMERICANS ARE STRANDED THERE.
THEY’RE SAYING YOU KNOW, YOU’RE
ON YOUR OWN, MAKE YOUR WAY TO
THE AIRPORT.
TAKE IT, ROB, SO WHAT HAPPENS?
>> I DON’T THINK THEY KNOW
EXACTLY HOW MANY ARE THERE.
I DON’T EVER WANT THEM TO
PROJECT HOW MANY THEY THINK
THERE ARE THERE EXACTLY BUT
SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY’RE BEING
DELIBERATELY VAGUE BECAUSE THAT
IS WHAT THEY DO.
THEY NORMALLY GET A FREE PASS
FROM MOST OF THE MEDIA.
YOU CAN’T DENY WHAT IS HAPPENING
HERE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE FALLING FROM
C-17s, BETTER TO HOLD ON TO
LANDING GEAR OF A JET GOING
150 MILES AN HOUR THAN LIVE
UNDER TALIBAN RULE.
KT MADE A GOOD POINT.
I WOULD BE NERVOUS IF I WAS
TAIWAN.
CHINA WILL MAKE MOVES.
CHINA DOESN’T MESS AROUND.
WHEN CHINA FIGHTS, CHINA KILLS.
TAIWAN WILL NEED TO RELY ON
AUSTRALIANS AND JAPANESE TO HELP
THEM.
WOULD YOU WANT TO BE A SOURCE
FOR THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW?
WOULD YOU WANT TO STAND UP TO
THE UNITED STATES WHEN ALL THEY
WILL DO INEVITABLY BACK OUT TO
LEAVE YOU TO DIE, NOT JUST DIE
BUT DIE REALLY, REALLY BAD?