POLICEMAN AS WELL.
I’M PRAYING THAT THINGS CHANGE.
>> LET’S BRING IN MSNBC NEWS
CORRESPONDENT MIKE MEMOLI WHO
WAS ON BIDEN’S TRIP YESTERDAY TO
KENOSHA AND IS COAUTHOR TO A
PIECE THIS MORNING ENTITLED
"BIDEN AND TRUMP PUT DIFFERENT
VISIONS ON VIVID DISPLAY BACK ON
THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL".
I TAKE IT THE BLAKE FAMILY
DIDN’T WANT MUCH TO DO WITH
TRUMP, THEY COULDN’T HAVE HAD A
MEETING LIKE THIS?
>> NO, MIKA, I’VE BEEN COVERING
THIS CAMPAIGN SINCE THE
BEGINNING.
WE HAVE NOTHING BECAUSE OF THE
PANDEMIC OF A NORMAL GENERAL
ELECTION SO FAR.
WE’VE SEEN BIDEN AND TRUMP
COVERING THE SAME GROUND THIS
WEEK.
YOU TAKE STOCK OF THIS WEEK AND
WONDER IF THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE
NOT JUST WONDERING DIFFERENT
CAMPAIGNS WITH DIFFERENT
MESSAGES BUT OPERATING IN
DIFFERENT UNI VERSES REALLY.
YOU HAD PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKING
ABOUT THE RECORD GAINS IN THE
STOCK MARKET YESTERDAY IN
PITTSBURGH.
JOE BIDEN WAS IN PITTSBURGH ON
MONDAY TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY
FAMILIES HAD TO FILE FOR
BANKRUPTCY.
YOU HAD JOE BIDEN IN WILMINGTON
ON WEDNESDAY TALKING ABOUT THE
ISSUE HIS CAMPAIGN THINKS IS
FIRST AND FOREMOST IN VOTERS’
MINDS, THE PANDEMIC.
DONALD TRUMP CELEBRATING THE
75th ANNIVERSARY OF WORLD WAR II
AND NOT MENTIONING THE PANDEMIC.
IN KENOSHA YESTERDAY, THE FIRST
ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR JOE BIDEN
WAS MEETING WITH JACOB BLAKE’S
FAMILY WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN
HIS VISIT EARLIER IN THE WEEK
ONLY LOOKED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND LOOKED AT THE REMNANTS OF
LOOTING AND RIOTING WE SAW
THERE.
LET’S LOOK AT WHAT WE SAW PLAY
OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THIS
WEEK.
>> I THINK WE’RE ROUNDING THE
TURN ON THIS CHINA VIRUS.
WE’RE ROUNDING THE TURN.
VACCINES ARE HAPPENING,
THERAPEUTICS ARE HAPPENING.
YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS,
THEY’RE GOOD.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP MAY NOT THINK
THIS IS A NATIONAL EMERGENCY,
BUT I THINK GOING BACK TO SCHOOL
FOR MILLIONS OF CHILDREN AND THE
IMPACTS ON THEIR FAMILIES AND
THE COMMUNITY IS A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY.
I BELIEVE THAT’S WHAT IT IS.
PROTECTING OUR STUDENTS, OUR
EDUCATORS, OUR COMMUNITIES,
GETTING OUR SCHOOLS OPEN SAFELY
AND EFFECTIVELY, THIS IS A
NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
>> MR. BLAKE WAS SHOT SEVEN
TIMES IN THE BACK.
DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A NEED
FOR STRUCTURAL CHANGE?
>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE CALLING
FOR STRUCTURAL CHANGE AND YOU
CAN TAKE THE PEOPLE OF KENOSHA
THAT AREN’T HERE, THEY WANT
CHANGE ALSO, THEY WANT LAW AND
ORDER, THAT’S THE CHANGE THEY
WANT.
THEY WANT LAW AND ORDER.
THEY WANT THE POLICE TO BE
POLICE.
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT’S BEEN
UNLEASHED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE
IS THEY UNDERSTAND THAT FEAR
DOESN’T SOLVE PROBLEMS, ONLY
HOPE DOES.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN COUNTLESS
NONVIOLENT PROTESTS HERE IN
WISCONSIN AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY
THIS SUMMER.
PEOPLE CALLING FOR AN END TO
SYSTEMIC RACISM.
DO YOU BELIEVE SYSTEMIC RACISM
IS A PROBLEM IN THE COUNTRY?
>> YOU JUST KEEP GETTING BACK TO
THE OPPOSITE SUBJECT.
WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF
VIOLENCE THAT WE’VE SEEN IN
PORTLAND AND HERE, AND OTHER
PLACES.
I WANT’S TREMENDOUS VIOLENCE.
>> I THINK WE’VE REACHED AN
INFLECTION POINT IN AMERICAN
HISTORY.
I HONEST TO GOD BELIEVE WE HAVE
AN ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY NOW THE
SCREEN, THE CURTAIN HAS BEEN
PULLED BACK, AND JUST WHAT’S
GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY TO DO A
LOT OF REALLY POSITIVE THINGS.
>> MR. PRESIDENT, CAN YOU TELL
ME WHAT YOU WOULD SAY TO THE
BLAKE FAMILY?
I KNOW YOU DIDN’T GET A CHANCE
TO TALK TO THEM, BUT WHAT WOULD
YOU SAY TO THEM IN TERMS OF THE
PAIN THEY’RE GOING THROUGH AND
THE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE?
>> I FEEL TERRIBLY FOR ANYBODY
THAT GOES THROUGH THAT.
THAT’S WHY I WAS SO HONORED TO
MEET THE PASTORS.
AS YOU KNOW, IT’S UNDER
INVESTIGATION --
>> HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND
SOME TIME WITH JACOB ON THE
PHONE.
HE’S OUT OF ICU.
WE SPOKE FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
HIS BROTHER AND TWO SISTERS, HIS
DAD AND HIS MOM ON THE
TELEPHONE.
I SPOKE WITH HIM A LOT BEFORE
BUT WE SPENT TIME TOGETHER WITH
MY WIFE.
AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW NOTHING
WAS GOING TO DEFEAT HIM.
>> AN AVERAGE OF 1,000 PEOPLE
DYING EVERY DAY IN THE MONTH OF
AUGUST.
DO YOU REALLY FEEL SAFER UNDER
DONALD TRUMP?
MR. TRUMP, YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT FEAR?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE
AFRAID OF AMERICA?
AFRAID THEY’RE GOING TO GET
COVID.
THEY’RE AFRAID THEY’RE GOING TO
GET SICK AND DIE.
AND THAT IS IN NO SMALL PART
BECAUSE OF YOU.
>> ROUNDING THE TURN ON THE
PANDEMIC.
WE’RE ROUNDING THAT TURN.
>> MIKA, REGARDING THESE VERY
DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THE
CAMPAIGN ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE
ELECTORATE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE
IN NOVEMBER.
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THINKS THE
FORMULA THAT WORKED FOR HIM IN
2016, RALLYING HIS BASE AND
DEPRESSING THE TURN OUT OF THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE IS GOING TO WORK
AGAIN IN 2020, THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN REMAINS CONVINCED WHAT