if you're a subscriber to the social regressive you've probably already seen
a video that I did where I tested these leapers utg 30mm quick detach
rings there's a nice little lever here to see if you put a scope through these
things and then put it on top of a rifle and then if you were to take the the
scope off with these attached reattach it later does it come back to zero
reliably and in that test that pretty well proved that yes these things
actually come right back to zero I've never had any issues with these I've
actually been using them for years out varminting and they were great I take
them out to the desert or wherever and then you know I can just pop the scope
on and off and no issues everything comes right back where I need it and
I've never had any zero shift or anything like that
now I actually really liked UTG products I think they make some really good stuff
the quad rail I know that this is kind of an older model you know this kind of
basic quad rail instead of the nice sleek forearms that people are making
nowadays but it's still good and reliable I've used this for a while this
bipod is also a utg and yeah it's a little bit floppy it was super super
cheap but it works great I keep it on there it works really well this mount
right here on my Bushnell TRS 25 also a utg this is one of the thumb screw
models so I like utg stuff but I do have to point out that there is an issue with
these rings and actually it kind of applies to all of their rings and mounts
there is one design flaw that I'm going to show here that didn't really show up
until I started using a larger caliber than a 223 I hadn't used these
kinds of rings on something bigger before so let's see what happened this
is our savage axis long range rifle this is an attempt to turn an inexpensive deer
rifle into a long-range precision rifle and to keep the budget really small the
original budget was about 500 bucks and even with that budget it pretty well
worked check out the playlist over here on the side and what we're doing is
we're starting to get into some better parts because there was one part
that was really holding everything back and that was the scope with a better
scope like this Falcon M18+ this is producing much smaller groups so I took
this out the other day to give this a test and to get it all zeroed in and you
can see right now that the rifle scope is sitting in these Weaver four whole
kind of skeletonized rings these are aluminum and I really like these rings
so far by the way so if you're looking for a decent ring for a 30 millimeter
scope and you want the budget to be pretty small then we have these these
seem to be pretty nice so far but what I did is I grab some leapers instead
because I didn't have these available I grabbed them from the drawer popped them
on here and I got everything you know really tension down pretty good
they should have been pretty tightly attached to this base you know just were
I could barely get those levers popped off and you can see what happened under
recoil this is a seven millimeter Oh a trifle so its recoil is you know
basically the same as a 308 and you can see that it damaged that section of rail
right there and I've already filed this down just a little bit so that you know
it's trying to see maybe I can still use that bit of rail but no I don't trust
that little section of rail anymore I'm not going to use that which is kind of a
bummer really at some point I'll probably just have to throw the whole
base out because you can see that now this ring is not in the optimal position
I would like to have it just one notch forward so that I can just have more
control over the scope I don't like to have my rings really close together but
now that section is damaged and I can't use it anymore the typical design for
these stops is squared off like you see on these Weaver quad lock I also have
some Weaver Grand Slams that have the same thing so this is
going to present a nice clean front to bash up against those rails if there's
any movement and it's just going to make everything lock up a little bit tighter
so what's going on here taking a look at the underside of these rings you'll see
that the stop this bolt that runs through the center
is rounded and that it's very likely that less than half of it is poking up
above the surface so you're getting just a minut section of this stop coming up
against the rail and if there's any kind of looseness in the system and
especially as the the optic or whatever is mounted in here gets heavier then
every time you fire the rifle this is going to batter against that rail
against a very tiny part of it and it's going to pain the metal and this isn't
just relegated to this particular ring it's actually on all of their mounts as
you can see here this is a riser that they have and this has two of those
rounded sections again also that bushnell TRS 25 the special riser that I
picked up so that I could get absolute Co witness with my sights rounded I had
noticed a while back that the scope ring at the front of my scope was doing this
to my ar-15 Picatinny rail here and so I tighten things up just a little bit
further to make sure it didn't happen again and it has been halted it hasn't
produced any more damage and you can see that the spot right here where I
normally put my red dot there really isn't
you know much damage to see here I don't think it's done anything at all for one
thing that red dot is lighter the scope is heavier and I have made sure that
everything is tightened up there is one big difference between this riser that I
have on the TRS 25 and the quick detach scope rings that you see in the
background there this has just a big nut that's very easy to turn and this is
going to make sure that it locks up really tightly you can put as much
tension as you want on this thing to attach it to the rifle and then you just
apply the same amount of tension the opposite direction to turn it off so
this you can really crank it down pretty good this on the other hand is a little
bit trickier these are very clever you've probably seen these you know kind
of cam action levers before on other mounts but you're
trying to find a balance between a tension that's going to hold this ring
on the rifle and something that you can actually remove and put on again later
so it really takes some work to get this thing turned to the correct position
this has an Allen set screw right here and this is what you use to get that
tension going and then the cam pushes that plate up against the rifle it gets
this little lock in place and so this has its limitations and one of them is
that once you have cammed this into its final position on some of these newer
ones this is an old one this is an extra high mount that it got a while back and
it seems like the quality has kind of fallen off this one was pretty darn good
this one didn't want to float around these new ones however that I picked up
it seems like the cam is not as well ground as the old ones it could just be
my imagination maybe the other one is more broken in but this one once you get
it into its final position it's like you're kind of breaking over this a lot
a lot a lot of tension and then all of a sudden it kind of slacks off and backs
off and I don't want that I want the maximum tension to be when this is
actually pressed down into its final position
so these they didn't really work out that well for me and that's I think is
how I got this area pained right here so what's the final takeaway I wouldn't
recommend using these utg rings or risers on any centerfire rifle that's
bigger than 223 for example they really need to redesign this thing with a
squared off bumper instead of this rounded one really for anything like say
22 to 50 and up I would expect that this would cause some real damage to your
bases or to the picatinny rails that are on your ARS and that sort of thing I
really want to like these and I will still run this on my 223 AR
tene back here because I do have the tension you know finally dialed in just
right on this it shouldn't cause any more damage here in the future and I do
like the way that the rings work the these little QD mounts are actually
pretty slick and they do like I showed in that other video return-to-zero just
fine but just because there's such a high risk of damaging parts I'm going to
pass on these now I really do hope that they that they do improve these in the
future because I do like the design I like the
price point naturally if they you know do more milling or they're scoring it's
off the price may go up a bit but it'll still be a steal and these things will I
anticipate still work really well thanks for watching if you like this video be
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