SOME OF YOUR BROOKLYN COME OUT
IN THE BIG HEARING YESTERDAY.
LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR
EXCHANGE WITH SENATOR PAUL.
>> SENATOR PAUL, I HAVE NEVER
LIED BEFORE CONGRESS.
SENATOR PAUL, YOU DO NOT KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND I
WANT TO SAY IT OFFICIALLY.
YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT WHAT WE
DID WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
DEATHS OF INDIVIDUALS, I TOTALLY
>>> WE ARE BACK WITH DR. FAUCI
LIVE ON "THE BEAT."
WE SAW YOUR CLASH WITH SENATOR
PAUL.
FOR THOSE OF US COVERED YOU AND
LISTENED TO YOU, A MAJOR
CONTRAST TO MOST OF YOUR PUBLIC
SPEAKING.
WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT OR CONCERN
YOU ABOUT THAT?
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE LISTENED TO
WHAT DR. RAND PAUL OR WHAT
TUCKER CARLSON WAS SAYING AND
ACT ON IT, THEY MAY BE
INCREASING THEIR RISK OF GETTING
COVID OR GETTING HURT.
>> MY RESPONSE, I DON’T TAKE
GREAT PLEASURE IN CLASHING WITH
THE SENATE.
HE WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE.
HE TOTALLY DISTORTED REALITY.
HE MADE SOME SLANDEROUS REMARKS
ABOUT LYING UNDER OATH WHICH IS
NONSENSE.
SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID WAS
SO DISTORTED AND OUT OF TUNE
WITH REAL, I HAD TO CALL HIM ON
THAT.
I DIDN’T ENJOY IT BUT I HAD TO
DO THAT.
HE WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE.
TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE.
>> INTERESTING, THESE ARE
SERIOUS ISSUES PEOPLE ARE
WORKING ON.
I WANT TO GET TO A BUNCH OF
THINGS WITH YOU.
I WANT TO JUMP TO DIFFERENT
VACCINES.
YOU HAVE SAID HISTORICALLY THE
BEST VACCINES YOU CAN GET IS ANY
VACCINE YOU CAN GET.
THERE IS A STUDY ABOUT J&J, IT
IS NOT TECHNICALLY PEER
REVIEWED.
THIS IS THE INFORMATION WE ARE
GETTING.
THE J&J VACCINE IS LESS
EFFECTIVE AGAINST DELTA.
13 MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE
GOTTEN IT MAY NEED A BOOSTER.
J&J SAYS THEY DO OFFER STRONG
PROTECTION.
IS YOUR ANSWER THE SAME OR WOULD
YOU UPDATE OR STEER AWAY FROM
J&J?
>> ARI, THESE THINGS GET
COMPLICATED.
LET ME TRY TO UNPACT IT BRIEFLY
FOR YOU.
THE ARTICLE THAT YOU SHOWED FROM
THE NEW YORK TIMES WHICH
REPORTED ON A STUDY FROM NEW
YORK THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE
INVITRO DATA, THEY WERE NOT
LOOKING AT CLINICAL DATA.
WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IF YOU
LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF A
PARTICULAR LABORATORY TEST AND
ANYBODY, IT IS LOWER THAN OTHER
VACCINES.
THEREFORE, ASSUMING THAT IT MAY
ACTUALLY BE LESS EFFECTIVE
CLINICALLY.
WHAT WE DON’T HAVE IS THE ACTUAL
CLINICAL DATA THAT MATCH ONE
AGAINST THE OTHER.
SO, J&J --
>> CAN I JUMP IN, DOCTOR?
>> YES, JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR,
ARE YOU BASICALLY SAYING THAT
THIS TYPE OF STUDY WAS MORE
LAB-BASED AND NOT ABOUT ACTUAL
PEOPLE GETTING SICK?
>> THAT’S ACTUALLY THE TOTAL
TOTAL -- YOU ACTUALLY HIT THE
NAIL ON THE HEAD.
THAT’S EXACTLY CORRECT.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WAIT FOR
THE CLINICAL DATA AND THE
CLINICAL DATA ARE GOING TO BE
IMPORTANT.
IF THE CLINICAL DATA REFLECTS
THE LABORATORY DATA THEN YOU
HAVE TO REEVALUATE THAT.
WHAT IT VERY WELL MAY BE AND J&J
CLAIMS AND VERY WELL MAY BE TRUE
THAT THEIR IMMUNE RESPONSE THAT
THEY INDUCE ARE BEYOND WHAT IS
MEASURED BY ANTIBODY.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE
BEING MEASURED.
I AM NOT SAYING AT ALL THAT THE
NEW YORK STUDY IS INCORRECT.
FROM A LABORATORY STANDPOINT IS
A CORRECT STUDY.
IS WHAT REFLECTIVE OF WHAT’S
GOING ON CLINICALLY.
WE DON’T HAVE THE DATA TO BE
ABLE TO SAY THAT.
SO I HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND
ABOUT THAT.
>> I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT
PEOPLE ARE MAKING THE DECISION
OUT THERE AND WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING IS, IS IT TRUE THEY ARE
FINDING THE MEASUREMENT.
UNTIL WE HAVE REAL PEOPLE AND WE
ARE LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE IMPACT
WE DON’T KNOW AND THAT MAY BE
HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE LISTENING TO
YOU NOW OR WHEN EVER PEOPLE GET
TO IT WITH DR. FAUCI TELLING US
THE DIFFERENT VACCINE OPTIONS.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT VACCINE
MANDATES.
WE HAVE SEEN SOME UNIVERSITIES
AND COMPANIES START TO GO
TOWARDS REQUIRING PEOPLE TO GET
VACCINATED AND NOTWITHSTANDING
HOW VITAL IT IS.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GET
MUCH HIGHER VACCINE RATES THAT
WOULD KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AND
PROVIDE, LIBERTY FOR PEOPLE OF
PERSON OR RELIGIOUS REASONS TO NOT HAVE THIS ON THEIR BODIES.
NOT HAVE THIS ON THEIR BODIES.
WHERE DO YOU COME DOWN ON THAT?
>> WE GOT UNITSVERSITIES AND OTH
PLACES THAT IS SAY NO, YOU GOT
TO BE VACCINATED.
>> I CAN’T SEE THAT IS IN THE
CARDS.
BUT, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS
THEY’RE GOING TO BE LOCAL
MANDATES.
COLLEGES AND THE UNIVERSITIES
AND SOME PLACES OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
>> IS THAT ISOVER OVERKILL.
>> I DON’T THINK IT IS OVERKILL.
YOU NEED TO TAKE IT CASE BY
CASE.
ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE SHOULD
REALIZE IS THE IDEA OF MANDATING
A VACCINE IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
THAT’S DONE ALL THE TIME.
HOW ABOUT SCHOOLS?
WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR
DECADES AND DECADES.
>> MAY I PRESS YOU DOCTOR?
>> I AM NOT SAYING I THINK THIS.
PART OF MY JOB WHAT PEOPLE
OBJECTED IS SAYING AS YOU KNOW
THOSE OTHER MANDATES HAVE MUCH
LONGER PERIODS OF TIME AND THEY
SAY IT FEELS UNFAIR FOR THEM TO
DEMAND THEM TO TRY SOMETHING SO
NEW.
>> AGAIN, YOU CAN HAVE ARGUMENTS
ALL THE TIME.
I AM NOT SURE IF THAT ARGUMENTS
HOLD WATER.
WE HAVE A VIRUS, ARI, THAT
KILLED 600,000 AMERICANS SINCE
THE BEGINNING OF THIS OUTBREAK.
THIS IS THE MOST DEVASTATING
INFECTIOUS DISEASE FROM A
RESPIRATORY VIRUS THAT WE HAD IN
102 YEARS.
TIMES CHANGED. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY AND
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY AND
LIBERTY ASIDE AND I AM NOT AN
ANTY
ANTI LIBERTARIAN PERSON.
WE HAVE AN OUTBREAK ONGOING FOR
A YEAR AND A HALF.
IT HAS KILLED MORE AMERICANS
THAN ANY INFECTIOUS DECIDE IN A
LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO DO --
>> WELL, DOCTOR -- WHEN YOU PUT
IT LIKE THAT THE ANSWER SOUNDS A
LOT BETTER THAN THE QUESTION.
BEFORE I LET YOU GO, THE LAST
THING IS THE EASESTIEST THING ON
THIS ONE.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND YOU
HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF
DIFFERENT FOLKS TO TRY TO GET
THE WORD OUT ON ANYONE AND LEARN
ALL SORTS OF NEW WAY.
I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK OF A
QUESTION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
HOW YOU HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
HERE WE GO.
>> IF OLIVIA RODRIGO TELLS YOU
TO GET VACCINATED, YOU GET
VACCINATED.
>> HERE IS ONE, I GOT MY FIRST
DOSE OF THE FAUCI-OUCHI.
>> DR. FAUCI.
>> HEY STEPH.
>> THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS GIVING
US STRAIGHT.
I KNOW YOU HAVE SAVED COUNTLESS
LIVES.
>> LET’S KEEP THE WOOS TO THE
MINIMUMS PLEASE.
AS YOU KNOW THE WOOS SPREAD
DROPLETS.
>> YOU ARE IN THE POP CULTURE
WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT.
OF ALL THE ARTISTS AND ATHLETES
YOU HAVE TEAMED UP WITH, WHO HAS
BEEN YOUR FAVORITE?
>> I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU AN
ANSWER TO THAT, ARI, I DON’T
WANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY.
>> VERY POLITICAL.
I MEAN SOME OF THEM, --
>> SO NOT STEPHEN CURRY, SO
STEPHEN CURRY IS NOT YOUR
FAVORITE?
>> I HAVE A SPECIAL THING WITH
STEPHEN CURRY BECAUSE ANYBODY
WHO EVER PLAY WITH BASKETBALL IN
THEIR LIFE AND I PLAYED HIGH
SCHOOL BASKETBALL WISHED THAT
THERE WERE 1,000 AS GOOD AS
STEPHEN CURRY.