- Aw, man, you gotta be kidding me!
You gotta be kidding me!
I just got this outta the shop.
Are you kidding me?
(heavy metal music)
(gun shooting)
- Don't come near!
(gun shooting)
- [Announcer] Welcome to First Person Defender,
where regular people come face-to-face
with unknown attackers,
in real-world scenarios,
and fight their way out.
- Put it down!
(gun shooting)
- [Announcer] This is First Person Defender.
- That'll work.
Today on First Person Defender,
we're on location in New Hampshire
at the SIG SAUER Academy.
Lot of shooting going on, a lot of training.
Today we have Larry and Rachel.
Larry, he's a real gun guy.
He's a patrol officer.
His wife, Rachel, not so much.
Let's see what happens today on First Person Defender.
- [Announcer] This force-on-force training
uses real firearms converted to fire marking cartridges.
The crew wears yellow shirts, and are considered
to be invisible to role-players.
Larry and Rachel find themselves stopped
at a stoplight when trouble bumps into them.
Are they ready for what happens next?
(suspenseful music)
- Aw, man, you gotta be kidding me!
You gotta be kidding me!
I just got this outta the shop.
Are you kidding me?
(gun shooting)
- Get outta the car, go, go.
Get over here, go, go, go.
Run.
Not by me.
Go.
- Tell me what happened.
- Well, we were waiting at a stop light.
Person came, hit the back, came outta the car
with a firearm in hand.
I saw it, went for my gun, which was jammed.
I think I maybe got one round off.
Tried to get her outta the car.
At that point, it was just,
even though I couldn't get the gun in operation,
just worried more about getting her outta there,
and drawing the attention towards me.
- Okay, Rachel.
What did you see?
What did you hear?
What were you thinking?
- [Rachel] I didn't really see anything
but then I heard the gun going off.
- And what are you thinking here?
- I was thinking it was gonna be a lot more argument,
before it just started happening.
- Yeah,
this happened fast.
- Yeah.
- You're trying to communicate.
Could you hear him communicating?
- Yeah.
- Have you guys talked about this before?
- No.
- No?
It was a little...
It looked a little bit of,
It looked like you were--
- I wasn't really sure where to go
cause he was dragging me over here,
so I thought I was hiding over here
but then he was over there
so I didn't really,
I didn't know where to go.
- It felt like you were a little confused
on what you should do.
- Yeah.
- So let's start with the things you got right.
That communication that you had was amazing.
Telling your loved one where to go,
to get out of the vehicle.
Right? We always tell people,
if gunfire breaks out around the car,
the car is not your friend.
Right? It's kind of a bullet trap.
You wanna get off the ex.
Great job of peeling back
and getting some distance from the shooter,
cause you kinda recognized with yourself,
maybe coulda used the car a little bit better,
as a form of cover.
Cause, I mean, that engine block
will definitely stop bullets.
Good reference for you as well.
I would say just running around,
not knowing where to go,
the best case would probably be
to get in front of the car,
behind the guy with the gun
who can protect you,
and then try to get some distance yourself.
(funky music)
(gunshot)
- Everyone loves a single action trigger
like on this Ruger LCRX.
But, if you have a revolver for self-defense,
concealed carry home defense,
you really should practice the double action trigger pull.
You're not gonna be cocking it
and you probably shouldn't be cocking the hammer
in a defensive scenario like life or death.
So, practice that longer,
(gunshot)
double action trigger.
(gunshot)
because that's the way you're gonna shoot
in a defensive situation.
- So, I just wanna talk a little bit about cover
and concealment in and around a vehicle.
So, cover versus concealment.
We think of cover as something that stops bullets.
We think of concealment as something that hides you.
So, some good positions on the car,
if you guys wanna turn around and take a look.
Cover positions would be this front axle here,
the rear axle, front axle, engine block,
and these pillars.
One, two and three.
Also the front door.
Again, not gonna actually stop a lot of bullets,
but it's better than air.
You can hide yourself behind it worst case scenario.
And I wanna make sure I give myself some room,
in case I need to turn and run.
So, being close here to the vehicle,
if I bump into this,
I'm delaying my ability to escape.
So I wanna work this angle just a little bit better,
so I have some room to leave if I need to.
Does that make sense?
- Mhmm.
- As soon as I see the gun,
I realize it's a deadly threat.
So as I'm retreating to a safer place,
my hand goes to my gun,
I can access it and withdraw it right now.
From here, in the low ready position,
I can start giving my loved one commands.
Hey get outta the car.
Come back to me.
Stay low.
As soon as she starts to exit,
I can then start to engage the target.
(gun shooting)
Any time I come off the target,
my finger comes off the trigger.
Ready position of your choice,
depending upon your surroundings.
I'm gonna get low.
I'm gonna wait for him to pop out again.
As soon as I see him,
(gun shooting)
I can get my finger,
back on the trigger.
Any time the gun comes off,
I need that finger to come off as well,
just as a safety point.
- Okay.
- I can assess the situation back here
utilizing the engine block as best I can,
to protect myself from any incoming fire.
- Threat, threat threat.
- Rach get outta the car.
Get behind the engine.
(gun shooting)
Come behind me.
(gun shooting)
- Nice.
And holster.
- [Announcer] First person defender brought to you by,
SIG SAUER,
Inceptor Ammunition,
ShopGunTalk.com,
and Ruger.
(slow motion gun shooting)
- Drop the gun! Drop the gun!
(gun shooting)
Somebody call nine one one.
That guy just tried to shoot me.
Kay, so here we are at the SIG SAUER academy,
inside the shoot house
and I was just confronted with, what I perceived,
as a deadly threat.
Kay, I was walkin up close to this individual,
whatever the reason might've been.
Next thing I know, he drew a gun on me.
Alright.
What's very important, when that happens,
is I have to get off the line of attack,
get off the ex, so to speak,
and also immediately start to create distance,
and give me some time for that reactionary gap, okay?
So, if I were to talk through it real slow,
just to demonstrate,
I would come up.
As I'm comin up for the draw,
I'm actually verbalizing,
Drop the gun, drop the gun.
As I'm coming up onto my sights,
I start moving back at that oblique angle,
then I engage.
(gun shooting)
(slow motion gun shooting)
Drop the gun, drop the gun.
(gun shooting)
Somebody call nine one one.
That guy just tried to shoot me.
So there you have it folks.
The importance of creating distance
and getting off that ex,
creating that reactionary gap,
if you're ever faced with a deadly confrontation.
(slow motion gun shooting)
(gunshot)
- Accurate shots.
Whether it's competition or self-defense,
sometimes you gotta make an accurate shot.
We're working with the Springfield Armory,
professional model,
nine millimeter,
from the Springfield Custom shop.
Sweet gun.
Very accurate gun.
Well, to make an accurate shot,
one of the things you're gonna have to do,
is just take a little but more time.
You're gonna have to press that shot.
Breath.
(gunshot)
And press it off.
That's what you're gonna have to do
when precision counts.
- [Announcer] In this scenario,
Larry and Rachel encounter danger at a stoplight.
Is the training they received enough to survive?
- Whoa, you okay?
Alright.
- Man, what the hell?
I can't believe this crap.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me right now? - Hey sorry.
Whoa, whoa, gun, Rach, gun.
(gun shooting)
Run.
Come here.
Do you have your phone?
Call nine one one.
Tell em' we just had a guy pull a gun on me.
- Alright so you're sittin' in the car,
we made you sit in there for probably five, ten minutes.
- It's a little warm.
- Getting warm.
What were you thinking?
- Tried to just keep a clear mind,
cause if I guess what you guys were gonna throw at me,
I'm not gonna know,
I'm gonna make wrong decisions thinking ahead.
- Just tell me what happened then.
- [Larry] We saw a car come up from behind.
We were supposed to be stopped at a light or a stop sign,
and it hits us in the rear end.
Get out and the guy starts yelling at me.
I think I may have said something along the lines of,
it's okay, calm down.
And he pulls up his shirt and goes for a firearm,
and that's way outside of normal.
- What did you see?
What did you hear, Rachel?
- [Rachel] This time I adjusted my body
so I could see what was happening outside the car.
- [Host] Yeah, look at the bad guy,
see what's goin on.
- Yeah.
And then I saw him pulling and then I heard him yelling,
and got out.
- So at what point did you say,
I gotta get outta here?
- [Rachel] When I saw him pullin the shirt
and then he started yelling at us.
- Yeah.
What's the value of you guys running this together?
- So we could know how to react together.
- Work as a team?
- Communication.
- Yeah?
- Fantastic improvement in communication in that scenario.
- Awesome job guys.
I would say that was night and day difference
from the first scenario.
Same parameters but much different outcome.
I thought you did an amazing job
at defending yourself quickly
and defending your family.
Kudos to you for having the heads up kind of situation,
allowing us to be like,
hey what's actually happening back there?
He didn't have to tell you to get outta the car.
You knew,
this is bad.
I need to get outta the car
and head towards that engine block
cause it's the best cover.
Guys, no constructive criticism here.
That was awesome.
So, thanks for spending the day at the SIG SAUER academy.
Hopefully we'll see you guys again soon
to do some more training.
- Absolutely.
- Awesome job guys.
- Thank you.
(intense music)