>>> HOUSE DEMOCRATS PUSHING FOR ANSWERS ON NEW REPORTS ABOUT THE
DONALD TRUMP’S MIGRANT
FACILITIES.
FACILITIES. THE MANOR IN CHARGE KEVIN
McCLELAND TESTIFIES NEXT WEEK
BEFORE CONGRESS.
BEFORE CONGRESS. HE’S BEEN AGAINING FACTS AND HIS
OWN AGENCY’S DESCRIPTIONS OF
THESE CONDITION BNZ ADDED TO
THAT NEW REPORTING FROM OUR
COLLEAGUES AT NBC NEWS.
A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION HAS
LAUNCHED AFTER NBC OBTAINED
INCIDENT REPORTS FROM THIS
ARIZONA FACILITY, A BOY
COMPLAINING ABOUT WATER TASTING
LIKE CHLORINE.
LIKE CHLORINE. AGENTS TOOK MATTS OUT OF HIS
CELL AND HE HAD TO SLEEP ON
CONCRETE.
CONCRETE. ANOTHER GIRL ALLEGING SEXUAL
ASSAULT BY AN AGENT REPORTING A
"LARGE BEARDED OFFICER PUTTING
HIS HANDS INSIDE HER BRA AND
PULLING DOWN HER UNDERWEAR AS
WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A
ROUTINE PAT DOWN," ALLEGEDLY IN
FRONT OF NOT ONLY OTHER
IMMIGRANTS IN THE FACILITY BUT
IN FRONT OF OTHER OFFICERS.
McLEANEN WILL BE ASKED ABOUT ALL
OF THIS AND WHEN DID HE KNOW
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. NBC REPORTS SHOW THAT DHS HAS
BEEN ON NOTICE ABOUT ALL KINDS
OF ALLEGATIONS LONG BEFORE THEY
BECAME PUBLIC.
BECAME PUBLIC. THERE WILL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT
PHOTOS LIKE THIS SOME FROM
TRUMP’S OWN AGENCIES.
THIS WAS A TEX FACILITY WHERE
PEOPLE ARE BACKED IN BEHIND THE
FENCE.
FENCE. KIDS LAYING ON THE FLOOR,
BENCHES ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.
ANOTHER A MAN IS SEEN HOLDING UP
A HANDWRITTEN PLEA HELP.
PLUS QUESTIONS WHETHER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION IGNORED CLEAR
WARNINGS ABOUT DANGEROUS
OVERCROWDING.
OVERCROWDING. JASON JOHNSON IS BACK WITH ME
PLUS ERICA ANDIOLA FROM RAIZES
THE GROUP THAT PROVIDES LEGAL
SERVICES TO IMMIGRANTS IN TEXAS.
YOUR RESPONSE, ERICA.
>> TO BE AGAIN, IT’S NOT
SURPRISING.
SURPRISING. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AGENTS WHO
WERE POSTING JUST TERRIBLE,
TERRIBLE COMMENTS ON A FACEBOOK
GROUP THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAD
THE ABILITY TO SEE ON THE MEDIA.
THESE ARE THE SAME AGENT WHO ARE
ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW TAKING CARE
OF, WELL, IN QUOTES OF CHILDREN
WHO ARE UNDER THEIR CUSTODY.
TO ME AND TO ALL OF US WHO HAVE
WORKED WITH CHILDREN WHO ARE
HERE SEEKING ASYLUM, SEEKING A
BETTER FUTURE, WE ARE REALLY,
REALLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT
THERE’S MORE AND MORE OF THESE
FACILITIES OPENING UP WHERE
BORDER PATROL HAS CUSTODY OF
THESE CHILDREN OR YOU KNOW,
THEIR PARENTS ARE JUST ADULTS IN
GENERAL AND WE ARE CALLING FOR
THE FACILITIES TO CLOSE.
CBP SHOULDN’T HAVE PEOPLE IN
THEIR CUSTODY FOR MORE THAN THE
TIME IT TAKES TO PROCESS THEM
WHICH IS LESS THAN 2 HOURS.
WE ARE CALLING FOR THOSE
FACILITIES TO CLOSE AND CBP
AGENTS TO NOT AT ALL HAVE
CUSTODY OF CHILDREN EVER.
>> JASON, LISTEN TO THE
DEMOCRATS WHO BEEN DYING UP THE
PRESSURE ON THIS INCLUDING
LOOKING AT THE HEARINGS AND
PUBLIC EVENTS AND BASICALLY
SAYING THIS IS THE DEFINING
ISSUE RIGHT NOW, DOMESTIC POLICY
WISE WITH DONALD TRUMP.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> THE CONDITIONS AT THE BORDER
HAVE SHOCKED THE CONSCIENCE OF
THE COUNTRY.
THE COUNTRY. >> THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.
THE HUMAN RIGHTS WITH R BEING
ABUSED AND NEGLECTED.
>> WE DON’T NEED NEW LAWS.
WE NODE MORALITY.
>> THERE MUST BE GREATER
ACCOUNTABILITY.
ACCOUNTABILITY. >> WE NEED AN ADMINISTRATION
THAT UNDERSTANDS THERE ARE HUMAN
RIGHTS VIOLATIONS HAPPENING.
> THIS IS SIMPLY WRONG AND IT IS
SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE.
SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE. >> OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE
FUNDING STUFF HAS BEEN WORKED
OUT IN THE CONGRESS.
SO THIS IS REALLY A FIGHT OVER
TRYING TO GALVANIZE THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE TO CARE ABOUT THIS AT A
TIME WHEN THERE IS A KIND OF A
DEBATE OVER THE SECOND CLASS
TREATMENT OF OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
I ALWAYS MENTION ON THIS PROGRAM
PEOPLE HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS EVEN
WHEN THEY ARE CONVICTED OF
CRIMES.
CRIMES. >> YES.
>> YES. >> THESE PEOPLE INCLUDING THESE
CHILDREN HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS AND
ARE NOT EVEN IN THAT LEVEL OF
ACCUSATION.
ACCUSATION. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. SO THIS IS A LARGER ISSUE.
THIS GOES BACK TO 201 WHEN JEFF
SESSIONS ALLOWED I.C.E. TO GET
RID OF SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS
AND REPORTS AFTER SIX OR SEVEN
WEEKS.
WEEKS. THIS GOES TO THE BORDER PATROL
AND THE CAMPS WHERE PEOPLE ARE
BEING HELD.
BEING HELD. THEN IT GOES TO THE FACT NOW YOU
HAVE PEOPLE BEING MOVED INTO OLD
MILITARY BASES WHERE PRESIDENT
WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO
INVESTIGATE THEM.
INVESTIGATE THEM. THIS IS A WHOLE -- IT’S NOT JUST
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE.
THIS IS A TENTIONAL METHOD BY
THIS ADMINISTRATIONINGS TO
HARASS AND ABUSE PEOPLE NOT JUST
TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMING INTO
THE COUNTRY BUT TO INTIMIDATE
AND CONCERN THOSE INDIVIDUALS
LIVING IN THE UNITED STATES.
ALL OF THIS AS PART OF THIS
OVERALL WHITE NATIONALIST
RHETORIC MAN TESTING ITSELF IN
POLICY.
POLICY. THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE
MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
THERE’S PLENTY OF REPUBLICANS
WHO SAY WE DON’T CARE BUT THE
DEMOCRATS NID TO BE ABLE TO
GALVANIZE THEIR VOTERS AND MAKE
THIS A KEY ISSUE IN 2020.
>> WE’VE DISCUSS THE THIS WITH
OTHER GUESTS WHAT JASON SAYS
ABOUT THE TO TICKS, POLICY IS
SHAPED BY POLITICS.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS MEASURED
BY THE PEOPLE ON THOSE DEBATE
STAGES HAS MOVED WHATEVER YOU
WANT TO CALL IT, MORE LEFT, MORE
TOMBTARIAN ON THESE ISSUES.
DO YOU THINK TRUMP’S
RADICALIZATION HAS OPENED UP
MORE SPACE FOR CHANGE WITHIN THE
PARTY.
PARTY. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE’S A
LONG-TERM STRATEGY HERE WHICH IS
OBVIOUSLY TO COME OUT AND MAKE
SURE THAT THE 2020 CANDIDATES
ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN
THE RIGHT WAY AND THAT THEY ARE
BRINGING A MORE HUMAN APPROACH I
WOULD SAY TO THE ISSUE.
BUT THERE’S ALSO THE SHORT-TERM
STRATEGY WHICH IS HOW DO WE
ACTUALLY STOP THIS FROM
HAPPENING.
HAPPENING. UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD SAY
DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT DONE
EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO STOP THIS
AND A BIG EXAMPLE WHAT JUST
HAPPENED IN THE HOUSE WHERE THEY
GAVE BASICALLY A BLANK CHECK TO
BORDER PATROL TO BASICALLY DO
WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO WITHOUT
ANY OVERSIGHT WITH PEOPLE IN
THEIR CUSTODY.
THEIR CUSTODY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YES, WE’RE
LOOKING INTO THE LONG-TERM
STRATEGY BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING
TO PRESSURE DEMOCRATS TO USE THE
POWER THEY HAVE IN THE HOUSE TO
INSURE AT THIS MOMENT WE’RE