THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: JOINING US NOW,
NASSAU COUNTY POLICE
COMMISSIONER AND RANDY SUTTON,
RETIRED POLICE POLICE LIEUTENANT
WITH THE LAS VEGAS POLICE
DEPARTMENT AND FOUNDER OF THE
WOUNDED BLUE.
THIS IS BRUTAL.
THERE’S BEEN A CONVERSATION
ABOUT WHY TO RELEASE IT ON A
FRIDAY NIGHT.
HE’S BEEN A BUILD UP, WE HAVE
BEEN WARNED ABOUT HOW BAD IT
WAS, AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
WATCHED IT NOW NO.
UNFORTUNATELY THE DESCRIPTION
WAS VERY ACCURATE.
IT SEEMS SO FAR TONIGHT THAT
PEOPLE ARE PEACEFULLY
PROTESTING.
BUT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
TIMING OF THIS RELEASE AND HOW
IT’S PLAYING OUT?
>> THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES ON
BEHIND THE SCENES THAT THE WORLD
DOESN’T GET TO SEE.
CHIEF DAVIS AND HER TEAM DOWN IN
MEMPHIS DID A GREAT CHILD.
THEY BRIEFED US THREE TIMES THIS
WEEK, ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES AROUND THE COUNTRY,
THEY GOT A BRIEFING FROM THE
CHIEF AND HER TEAM, GIVING US
THE HEADS UP SO WE CAN PREPARE.
AS SHE WAS ALSO PREPARING FOR
POSSIBLE UNREST IN OUR
COMMUNITY.
SO THE TIMING OF IT, IT’S A
DIFFICULT CHOICE.
NOBODY CAN PICK THE RIGHT TIME.
THERE’S NEVER A RIGHT TIME TO
GIVE BAD NEWS TO ANYBODY.
THAT CHIEF DAVIS AND HER TEAM
DID A GOOD JOB GETTING IT OUT
TONIGHT.
AS YOU CAN SEE SO FAR, EVERYONE
IS STAYING CALM.
THE MESSAGE IS OUT IN FRONT AND
WE WILL SEE HOW THE REST OF THE
WEEKEND GOES.
>> Shannon: RANDY, YOU AND AND I
HAVE UNFORTUNATELY HAD THIS
CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THERE HAVE
BEEN OTHER CASES LIKE THIS, AND
WE FEAR THEY WILL BE MORE CASES
LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE.
MY LATE FATHER WAS A
LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
HIS NOBODY HATES A BAD COP WORSE
THAN A GOOD COP, BECAUSE THE
SCHOLARS THE ABILITY FOR A VIDEO
TO GO OUT SAFELY AND DO THEIR
JOBS.
WHEN YOU’VE GOT A COMMUNITY AND
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT AND
ARE WARY OF YOU AND DON’T WANT
TO COOPERATE WITH POLICE, HOW
MUCH BAD AS THIS CASE DONE FOR
THE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN IN
UNIFORM?
>> YOU HIT A VERY IMPORTANT
POINT.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE IS
ANOTHER WATERSHED MOMENT, I’M
AFRAID, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
RODNEY KING WAS A WATERSHED
MOMENT, GEORGE FLOYD, AND NOW WE
HAVE THIS DEBACLE IN MEMPHIS.
AS A POLICE TRAINER, I SPENT
MANY, MANY YEARS AS A TRAINER
WATCHING WHAT UNFOLDED HERE IN
MEMPHIS WAS HORRIFYING TO ME.
I SAW A HORRIFYING POLICING, BAD
TECHNIQUES, OUT-OF-CONTROL
OFFICERS.
NO SUPERVISION.
NO LEADERSHIP.
AND THIS IS A RECIPE FOR WHAT
JUST TOOK PLACE.
IT WAS A FEEDING FRENZY, AND IT
WAS POLICING AT ITS WORST.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS, FROM MY
SOURCES IN MEMPHIS, THE RANK AND
FILE REALIZED THAT THESE
INDIVIDUALS WENT WAY, WAY
OVERBOARD, AND THEY SUPPORT THE
ACTIONS OF THE CHIEF, AND THAT
DOESN’T ALWAYS HAPPEN.
SO I AM PROUD OF THE MEMPHIS
OFFICERS RECOGNIZING THIS
MISCONDUCT.
BUT THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER
ISSUES HERE, SHANNON, THAT WE
CAN GO INTO, REFERENCING THEIR
TRAINING, HIRING.
AN INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO TAKE
PLACE INTO THE HIRING PRACTICES
THAT WERE TAKING PLACE WHEN
THESE -- NONE OF THESE COPS WERE
MORE THAN TWO OR THREE YEARS ON.
SO IF THEY WERE ALL HIRED AT
ABOUT THE SAME TIME, AND IT’S A
SYMPTOM, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE
ADDRESSED.
THAT IS SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD
THAT THE MEMPHIS POLICE
LEADERSHIP NEED TO TAKE A LOOK
AT.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
INVESTIGATIONS, STATE AND
FEDERAL, THAT WILL DIG INTO
THESE ISSUES.
AND CLEARLY MAKE SUGGESTIONS
ABOUT WHAT SHOULD COME NEXT.
I WANT TO PLAY WHAT BENJAMIN
CRIME, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE
NICHOLS FAMILY, SAID ABOUT RACE
AND POLICE CULTURE.
HERE IS HIS TAKE.
>> RACISM AND BIAS IS THE
INSTITUTIONALIZED POLICE
CULTURE.
IT IS NOT JUST THE POLICE
CULTURE, IT’S THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
YOU DON’T SEE OFFICERS DOING
THIS TO WHITE CITIZENS, BECAUSE
OUR COURT SYSTEM HAS SAID THAT
THEY VALUE WHITE LIFE MORE THAN
ANY OTHER LIFE.
>> AGAINST THAT BACKDROP, I
THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT
THE POLICE CHIEF IN MEMPHIS,
C.J. DAVIS, SAID SHE THINKS THIS
ACTUALLY IS NOT AN ISSUE OF
RACE.
SHE SAID IT’S ABOUT HUMAN
DIGNITY, INTEGRITY,
ACCOUNTABILITY, AND A DUTY TO
PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT PART OF
THE CONVERSATION?
>> THEY WANT TO MAKE IT ABOUT
RACE, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE
MATTER IS OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT
AND SERVE ALL THE PEOPLE, NO
MATTER YOUR RACE, RELIGION,
GENDER.
WE ARE OUT THERE TO SERVE THE
PUBLIC.
THESE HIGH OFFICERS THREW THAT
OUT THE WINDOW TODAY.
THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO GO ABOVE AND BE BETTER
THAN THE LAW.
WHAT THEY DID IN THE ATTACK ON
MR. TYRE IS WAY ABOVE THE
TRAINING.
MUSCLE MEMORY, PACK IS HOW YOU
PLAY IT, EVERYTHING WENT OUT THE
WINDOW.
THEY LET THEIR EMOTIONS TAKE
OVER AND THEY TARNISHED THE
SHIELD, RUINED THE REPUTATION OF
ALL THE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN OUT
THERE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT
WORK HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND
GO OUT THERE AND TAKE THE RISK.
IT’S HARD ENOUGH TO RETAIN, IT’S
HARD ENOUGH TO RECRUIT, AND NOW
IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.
THAT’S WHY WE NEED THE SUPPORT
OF OUR LOCAL POLITICIANS LIKE WE
DO HERE IN NASSAU COUNTY.
>> Shannon: YEAH, FOR THE GOOD