SEVEN TO NINE YEARS. SO SENTENCING IS STILL SCHEDULED
FOR THURSDAY.
FOR THURSDAY. LET’S BRING IN KT MCFARLAND,
FORMER DEPUTY NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR.
ADVISOR. KT HAS A NEW BOOK, REVOLUTION,
TRUMP, WASHINGTON AND WE THE
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THERE IS A BIG CONTROVERSY.
YOUR REACTION, KT?
>> LOOK, SOMEBODY IN WASHINGTON
IS GETTING VERY, VERY NERVOUS
ABOUT WHAT THE DURHAM REPORT,
JOHN DURHAM, THE ATTORNEY IN
CONNECTICUT WHO HAS BEEN ASKED
TO INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS
LOOK INTO THE ORIGINS OF THE
RUSSIA PROBE, THE RUSSIA HOAX,
IMPEACHMENT, ALL OF THIS.
HE IS GOING TO ABSOLUTELY HAVE
CRIMINAL CHARGES LEVELED AGAINST
SOME HIGH OFFICIALS IN THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION AND THE
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. IMPANELED A GRAND JURY.
HE TURNED IT INTO A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, THE SWAMP
CREATURES, WHO ARE VERY, VERY
NERVOUS ABOUT WHERE THIS GOES.
THEY’RE PARTICULARLY TRYING TO
TAKE A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE NOT
ONLY AGAINST DURHAM BUT
PARTICULARLY AGAINST ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR BECAUSE THEY KNOW
HE IS NOT AFRAID OF TAKING THE
INVESTIGATION WHERE IT NEEDS TO
GO, EVEN IF IT UNCOVER AS LOT OF
WRONGDOING BUT SOME VERY HIGH
OFFICIALS OF THE PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. LIZ: WE’VE BEEN COVERING IT AND
TRACKING IT.
TRACKING IT. WE FOUND THE FBI DID HAVE
INFORMANTS ON THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN, INFORMANTS GOING WELL
INTO THE CAMPAIGN.
FBI FISA ABUSES.
BACK TO THE SENTENCING, NPR AND
"WALL STREET JOURNAL" KIMBERLY
STRASSEL SAID TOP PROSECUTORS
WERE BLINDSIDED IF HE THEY WILL
EXCESSIVE RECOMMENDATIONS UP TO
NINE YEARS.
NINE YEARS. TWO OF THE PROSECUTORS WORKED
WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL
ROBERT MUELLER.
ROBERT MUELLER. YOUR TAKE ON THAT.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. WELL, LOOK I DEALT WITH A LOT OF
THOSE PEOPLE.
THOSE PEOPLE. I TOO WAS TARGETED BY THE
MUELLER INVESTIGATION AND I DO
FEEL THAT THEY ABUSED THEIR
POWER.
POWER. THEY TOOK ALL THE FILES AND
RECORDS AND PHONE LOGS THAT I
AND OTHERS HAD.
THEY WOULDN’T GIVE US ACCESS TO
THEM.
THEM. THEN THEY BASICALLY SAID, WHAT
DID YOU SAY ON THIS PHONE CALL?
YOU WOULD SAY, I DON’T REALLY
REMEMBER, OR I DON’T REMEMBER
QUITE THAT WAY.
THEY WERE IN A POSITION TO SAY,
AH-HA, WE CAUGHT YOU IN A LIE,
PERJURY.
PERJURY. IN THE ENEMY CASE I REFUSED TO
PLEAD GUILTY FOR CRIMES I DIDN’T
COMMIT.
COMMIT. I REFUSED TO SAY THAT OTHER
PEOPLE DID THINGS WHICH I KNEW
THEY DIDN’T DO.
AS A RESULT, I CALLED THEIR
BLUFF THEY WENT AWAY.
BUT OTHER PEOPLE THEY DID
PRESSURE THEM.
PRESSURE THEM. I THINK GENERAL FLYNN WAS SET
UP.
UP. I DO THINK HE SUCCUMBED TO THEIR
PRESSURE AND PROBABLY DID PLEAD
GUILTY TO CRIMES HE DIDN’T
COMMIT.
COMMIT. LIZ: TO YOUR POINT,
PROSECUTORIAL ABUSE, PROSECUTORS
ARE NOT INFALLIBLE.
CROSSFIRE HURRICANE PROBE HAD AN
FBI AGENT DOING A DEBRIEF OF
THEN CANDIDATE TRUMP AND MICHAEL
FLYNN.
FLYNN. HE WAS DOING SURVEILLANCE,
GETTING INFORMATION OUT OF
MICHAEL FLYNN TO PUT INTO THE
FBI PROBE.
FBI PROBE. DIDN’T TELL MICHAEL FLYNN OR
CANDIDATE TRUMP MIRANDA RIGHTS
ON THIS.
ON THIS. MAINSTREAM MEDIA, CNN,
"NEW YORK TIMES," MAKES THIS
GROUP 2,000 DOJ OFFICIALS,
TRYING TO MAKE LIKE IT IS NOT
PARTISAN.
PARTISAN. IN FACT IT IS AN ANTI-TRUMP
GROUP.
GROUP. IT IS CALLED PROTECT DEMOCRACY.
KT, HAS A LONG LIST OF FORMER
DEMOCRAT STAFFERS WHO WORKED FOR
ADAM SCHIFF, CHUCK SCHUMER,
ELIZABETH WARREN AND FORMER
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS.
THIS IS NOT A NON-PARTISAN GROUP
TRYING TO GET RID OF AG BARR.
>> NO.
>> NO. IT IS A VERY PARTISAN GROUP.
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL MIKE
MUKASEY PROBABLY BETTER THAN
ANYBODY.
ANYBODY. HE SAYS THIS IS THE SAME GROUP
OF PEOPLE WHO FOR TWO YEARS SAT
AROUND IN PANEL DISCUSSIONS ON
CABLE NEWS AND THEY INHALED
THEIR OWN EXHAUST FUMES AND THEY
GOT HIGH ON IT AND THEY KEPT
SAYING THERE WAS COLLUSION,
THERE WAS WRONGDOING, TRUMP
WOULD BE HAULED OUT OF THE
WHITE HOUSE IN CHAINS.
NONE OF IT CAME TO PASS.
NOW THIS SAME GROUP IS TAKING
THEIR LAST SWING.
THEY TRIED THE RUSSIA HOAX.
THEY TRIED THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. THEY TRIED IMPEACHMENT.
THEY ARE NOW GOING TO TRY TO GET
RID OF ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR.
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE I THINK HE IS GETTING
VERY CLOSE TO UNCOVERING THE
ABUSES THAT WENT ON IN THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AND
USING THE POWER OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO TARGET POLITICAL
OPPONENTS.
OPPONENTS. LIZ: TO YOUR POINT IT IS AN
IMPORTANT ONE YOU JUST MADE,
OPEN SECRETS IS THE WATCHDOG
GROUP, FOUND THAT JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS GAVE MORE
TO THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN
THAN TO THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN BY A
RATIO OF 18 TO 1.
I WANT TO TALK QUICKLY ABOUT THE
THING ABOUT SENTENCE DISPARITY
WHEN IT COMES TO ROGER STONE.
I MEAN WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IN 2016 UNDER
PRESIDENT OBAMA OVERRULED THE
RECOMMENDATION TO PURSUE CHARGES
AGAINST HSBC.
AGAINST HSBC. REMEMBER THAT?
REMEMBER THAT? IT WAS ACCUSED OF LAUNDERING A
BILLION BUCKS TO DRUG
TRAFFICKERS.
TRAFFICKERS. CHELSEA MANNING SENTENCE WAS
COMMUTED.
COMMUTED. LESSER KNOWN PARENTS IN THE
COLLEGE ADMISSION SCANDALS, THEY
ARE GETTING TWICE THE SENTENCE
THAN TV STAR FELICITY HUFFMAN.
YOUR FINAL WORD, KT.
>> I THINK THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION, THE LEFT OVER
PEOPLE FROM THAT ARE BEING VERY
VIN DICK I HAVE.
THEY HAVE PROSECUTORIAL
DISCRETION, SO WHAT THEY HAVE
DONE?
DONE? OBAMA PEOPLE LIKE DEPUTY FBI
DIRECTOR, NO CHARGE FOR HIM FOR
DOING THE SAME CRIME THEY
RECOMMENDED AN EXCESSIVE
SENTENCE FOR ROGER STONE.
THAT ISN’T BLIND JUSTICE.
THAT IS ONE RULE FOR YOU AND ONE
RULE FOR ME.
LIZ: KT, YOU’RE GREAT.