where they’re sold your you expanding all over the place the long drink dot com always
drink responsibly
21 plus only plays. Well, I’m
joined now sitting right next
to me by someone that perhaps
you’ve heard of if you’re a FOX
fan Tucker Carlson is host of
Tucker Carlson tonight, week
night 08:00PM eastern on FOX
News Channel also Tucker
Carlson today,
and Tucker Carlson originals at
FOX nation you can find out
more at FOX nation dot com or
Tucker Carlson dot com.
>> You’re very busy. They have
you doing many things talker.
I can’t lead over the show
sponsored by of finish whose
company that is the coolest
thing ever happened to me well
I’m glad that we could be I
love Finland, I’m actually part
>> The year is like this is to Ireland has long drink is to Finland and they sponsor the
show is really good. It’s so
it’s such a great country.
It’s a wonder it’s a wonderful.
I want to start with just
some like although shop talk
because whenever I’m out
meeting people chatting with
FOX viewers around the country
when I’m traveling. Many times
people ask about you Tucker,
what’s he like you know his
show you it’s been such a huge
success.
It got me thinking because
you’ve been in this business
for a while, but it’s CNN
crossfire, the 26 year bow tie
days and yes, NBC of course
that FOX different roles here
at 05:00AM and now this prime
time show that has just been
like a rocket ship this
massive success. Not taking
anything away from your prior
successes and other networks
and other shows what is it
about this show that you think
has catapulted it
to the level that it is what’s
unique about it well I don’t
have any sense of you know, I’m
I’m the Lisa for a person the
world by design
I think self-awareness leads to
self-obsession which leads to
self pity which leads to
misery. So I really try not to
think about myself.
But if I’m being completely
honest about it I think it
it’s pretty simple like I’ve
posted a lot of shows on
multiple networks. And it
really depends on the network.
You know if you’re hosting a
show on the channel that nobody
watches then nobody’s watching
it. It’s like. You host a show
on FOX right now and speak to
relevant issues you can’t.
But help get a big audience and
that’s kind of it so I’m not
being falsely modest of being
sincere because I lived it
I think it really has a lot to
do with no the 08:00PM show on
FOX is just an amazing piece of
real estate. I know that person
52 so
I’ve really kind of run out of
any interest at all in what
liars say. So for example
20 years ago if someone ever
called me a white-supremacist I
think I would paralyze with
horror because that’s an awful
thing to call someone saw
something to be in and of
course not. But now I real I’ve
realized just having grown
older that like the people
saying that don’t mean it and
all you know the first initial
call that I want to be in said
no actually know him
I’ve got really pretty liberal
racial views. I think we’re all
the same everyone’s created by
God, I’m a Christian I think we
have a difficult value and that
really mean that I do think
that and so I hope this clears
it up.
it up. >> He’s a white supremacist and that’s when I realized I don’t
care what you say there’s no
there is no point raising.
>> The only reason they’re
saying that is more to control
you through fear.
And I’m just old enough that
I’m not at all afraid into
exactly why am I have
weaknesses that is not one of
them enough they call the one
of my weaknesses. I feel like
my I don’t know we notice that
you gain and lose 50 pounds a
year like maybe get your you
know snacking under control
that probably hurt my feelings,
a little because that’s totally
real.
What’s what’s your worst like
guilty pleasure House check.
I mean that you know you do
anything bad. I think partly
it’s well just a lack of
self-control or you know I
write a lot you know that’s
essentially my job is to write
and so I think when you know you’re totally absorbed in writing something every day.
You kind of give yourself
permission in a very self
indulgent weighty crappy food
and that’s whatever I mean it’s
just and part of it is just.
Just laziness you know rather
than making me find a meal.
You know somewhere to put a
bunch of fig Newtons and I have
to probably to say here they
are right decision but that’s
like an actual fault or
sometimes I get mad, you know I
have a temper that’s a totally
fair criticism and I take that
seriously. But the other
criticisms that are not real at
all they’re not even close to
real. I sincerely don’t care.
I just don’t care so that’s a
strength if you don’t care and
you that means you can’t they
don’t have a leash on you like
that do not control what they
try of course and there’s
this whole almost cottage
industry there’s a whole group
of people devoted seemingly to
criticize you try to get you
fired and canceled a every day.
Do you ever think about them
when you’re planning the
program like even to give the
middle fingers on a nightly if
you don’t think about money if
you knew how cut off. I was by
design I don’t think anyone
would actually really believe
it. But I just I lead a very
different kind of life you
know, I’m not interested in
just getting in that. I don’t
like the Internet. I think
technology is for the most part
poison I’m from our eyes, you
chemotherapy. But in general
technology is not liberated a
sit-in slave des and it makes
people unhappy and it divides
them from each other and I just
don’t dissipate you know I
don’t like it or not at all
and I don’t go there I go to
social media hate social so how
do you build a nightly show if
you’re cut off to
South Texas. Your text message
with with your team partner
with hundreds of people so I
get daily tax from a couple 100
at least people I know around
the country world really I’ve
known for a long time we’ve got
good judgment who are
indifferent. The world’s
leading different kinds
of lives. If you send me stuff
and that’s the primary way that
I understand the world and it’s
almost becoming a team of
course this sounds very weird,
but it’s a 100% ask anybody
works it’s true.
and then my private life I
really try and read books
they don’t. I think the
Internet is so misleading it
gives the Google gives the
illusion of access to knowledge
when in fact it’s a tightly
constrained world constrained
by people with the worst
possible motives you know if
you want to understand what’s
happening in the world read
history and I I do I mean I
have a lot of false but
I do read every day book you
know actual put paper them in a
paper I guess.
So that’s why it took so like I
have no sense of it so
the only time I ever get any
sense of it is on you know if I
go into public with my kids and
some streaming and like I’m
totally baffled by why you mad
at me, but apparently there is
quite a bit of opposition to
our show but none of it ever
filters down to me at all I am
less than the same time listen
very very carefully to the
negative opinions of people I
respect and trust. So it’s not
that impervious to criticism I
take it very seriously if my
wife thinks have done something
wrong and I read about it
because I really care been
married 30 years I really care
what you thanks.
My children, close friends.
I have a couple producers who
I’m very close to personally.
I listen very carefully to
them. So I what I don’t do was
listen to people who aren’t
speaking in good faith
who are stupid or unwise or
whose own lives or to monster
Billy disastrous like why would
I care what they think like
malignant on purpose, but the
demonstrator record of success
like what you buy real estate
from a homeless guy would you
invest with Bernie Madoff know
that why would you take
personal life advice and some
of his personal life is in
disarray like I would never do
because I’m not an idiot.
So I listen to people who
are impressive and there are a
million people in over more
impressive than I am and I
listened very carefully to what
they say. But I’m absolutely
not going to listen to like CNN
why would I care what they say
I just I literally don’t care.
You and I appeared on got felt briefly together because you’re having a debate a formal debate
with Greg about the dumbest
person on CNN when you have a
very strong opinion on that
there was another network
mentioned at one point and
another. Anchor these days at
that network and I believe you
want out of your way not to
mention her name I will you
don’t have to but nicolle
Wallace yesterday referred to
or compared our network FOX
News to terrorists and I wonder
you can you can engage with her
or not. But
with this
wildly overheated rhetoric.
I what drives that to do they
believe it or they angry that
were well the call I’ve known
Nicole you know more than 20
years the coal when I knew it
was called the cold Devon ish
and she was a fact she was a
you know a spin person she
worked for Jeb Bush was then
governor of Florida
and she was his what they call
a communications director
something some people like that
you know have their merits have
their values are not even
anything but that
their job description is lying
they vie for say what they’re
told to say that so they have
to say they’re not involved in
even the theoretical pursuit of
truth and I don’t think that
she has changed her orientation
ever since like whatever drives
nicolle Wallace, I find her
unusually venomous and lacking
credibility and repulsive
actually but that’s just a gut
reaction that I have because
I’ve known him for so long and
I respect her so little but
that whole category of people.
It’s really such a shocking
look you’re on TV. Okay people
some percentage are taking you
seriously. I in
my show, I’m afraid of what’s
happening in a lot of ways the
country and I say that and I
know that that probably freaks
people out. But I really try
not to me
people more afraid than I think
is warranted last night for
example, we did a piece on the
riots of the summer of 2020 we
have a lot of footage of those
rights and some of that footage
is so shocking and up I think
what if you show racially
divisive. That we don’t put it
on the air at my request
because I don’t it’s real but I
don’t want
to give people the impression
things to come how scape it’s
too much and television is such
a powerful medium you can
really evoke heavy duty emotion
in people television not about
conveying facts. It’s about
coming feelings, emotions.
So you should pause before you
whip people into a frenzy you
really should I don’t always
and that’s my fault and I
should but I try to some like
the cold Evan issue has no
record of achieving anything in
her what I like to call what’s
the sum total of the finishes
request for yourself now.
But she just not an impressive
person so in.
Place of actual achievement she
tries to be as extreme as she
possibly can I think in this
moment that’s a moral failing.
I mean it.
Let me ask you about a poll
that I just saw it’s
interesting because what you do
often on Tucker Carlson
tonight, and today and all the
Tucker Carlson, yeah.
>> Is you will sometimes Roach
topics
that others don’t or well,
yeah, and and something that
has been discussed and you know
this whispered about a lot
especially in DC is the health
and the mental fitness a
president by yeah now you have
major pollsters actually asking
questions about it and this
politico story has its a 4648
split is the guy. Mentally
sharp words, the was mentally
fit. For the job with 48%
plurality saying no he’s not
it’s interesting to see that
conversation which was very hot
sort of off-limits for quite
some time starting to bubble up
a little bit more openly I
wonder what your thoughts are
on that well I’m so divided
internally on the subject
Texas, mixed feelings about it
because yes, he is
going to see now obviously and
just tell you I know that I’ve
known Joe Biden for 30 years I
was like Joe Biden for whatever
it’s worth a warm person, never
graded them, but I never hated
him at all I always like to
buy. I know a bunch of members
of his family and I some a
couple of very
well and I knew for a fact that
certain members of the family
were very concerned about his
cognitive ability. They didn’t
expect him to get the
nomination, nobody did and he
got it and they were freaked
out about it not speculate, I
know for a fact so I knew that
the family believed he was in
cognitive decline. So there’s
that and that’s news that’s
news. On the
other hand, I’m a human being a
52 like I hope I make it to 78.
I think there’s nothing sadder
than someone losing
his mind. I think that’s that I
see that with relative of the
first people you really love.
Yeah. I respect old people
that’s the other thing I just
instinctively respect all
people in and around longer I
aspire to be exactly thank
nicely put I aspire to be no
person and so command senility
is like I’m not going to do
that I probably have because I
find it a lot of my I try not
to I don’t want to be that guy
I want to treat all people with
respect even a fight you before
what they’re doing.
And so I’m not coming out every
night saying is a vegetable
without a vegetable but he
isn’t quite look.
Put tape from Joe Biden for
years ago it’s a whole and Joe
everybody knows it I would use
is put the matter I felt that
his obvious.
What if you want to call it.
The fact of slowing down.
It was one of the reasons he
got elected. Because the scene
on threatening. They might be a
little punchy he’s clearly not
in his game. Whatever you you
know how the kind of safe and
normalcy. Thank you that’s the
word safe.
And I got that I totally
understood that I knew I people
voted for Biden I definitely do
not mocking them for voting for
him, they were exhausted by
Trump. They’re not ideological
didn’t think about the ideas.
The Biden represents a Trump
represents ers like Trump is
freaking me I need to get some
income and that’s what a good
buy. I understand it.
What what we didn’t understand
is that Biden would be
immediately taken over and used
as a vessel by people who
really have a hard ideological
agenda that is how how safe is
it feeling right now and not at
all and you know if I didn’t
come in and done things I
disagree raise taxes or
captured sonseeahray I would
complain about it is I don’t
agree with those things.
However I would have been
afraid. You know if he had made
good on his promise to try to
unite the country.
Not demonize whole segment of
the population, the base of
their back status, you know the
worst thing that Biden’s done
officer far as that a press
conference where he said we’re
running out of patience for you
people haven’t had the vaccine
really football.
People are vaccinated according
to Pfizer’s own numbers.
Are not living longer than
people who aren’t backs in
fact, according to Pfizer
living a little shorter
they also are according to the
actual studies slightly more
likely to pass on the virus.
So like I’m not saying there’s
no benefit to the vaccine.
I’m not saying that what I am
saying is there’s no basis upon
which to demonize people who
haven’t been vaccinated and
blame them for the freakin
pandemic that’s totally evil
that he did that was totally
evil talk about dividing the
country’s worst thing I’ve ever
seen a president, I’m still mad
about it
and no one to talk with the
vaccines because like you know
to be an anti VAX won not
anti-vaxers but a million
vaccines are probably many more
like it’s a vaccine. But that
is wrong that is totally run
you cannot force people to take
medical treatments that will
period period not in this
country because why would we
stop of Corona. But HIV or
tuberculosis or you don’t to be
like this is safe and
everyone’s afraid to say it and
say I’m not afraid to 7.
I don’t care it isn’t so you’ve
got to try to save many things
but that’s just that’s truly
knots and we’re going to wake
up one morning be like if we
look through that when we say
something it was all a
dream except. I wasn’t living
here at the Patriot awards in
Florida, it’s good to see a
talker thanks for dropping by
law he guy Benson and as I’ve
got like wind him up and let
him go but we have a break
Tucker Carlson Tucker Carlson
tonight every week night