- Ah, fat jokes, I hadn't thought of that.
Chris Christy can't run, he has skeletons in his closet.
Of cows.
- Fat jokes?
I thought those were done in high school.
Thought we gained some certain level of maturity,
you don't have to deal with that anymore.
Well, of course we do.
In our real life, there's always gonna be
people tryin' to talk down to us
to make them look better and make us look bad.
And don't gimme that, oh, I'm going to take
the high road, and just not respond.
Well, you can do that, but you're gonna look like a dope,
and their status's gonna rise, and yours gonna go down.
You gotta know how to handle this.
And in this video, we're going to
break down Bill Maher and Christy.
And Christy, he's overweight.
So he's an easy target to be
made fun of for being overweight.
And Bill Maher does just that.
So we're gonna look at the strategies
that both sides use to try to position themselves
as higher status than the other one.
'Cause these guys are on completely
opposite sides of the theater politically,
and they both wanna look like they're right
and they're more confident in their position.
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So let's look at this breakdown and this interaction
and see what actually happened so you can learn
the kind of strategies that they're both using.
- [Bill] Governor Chris Christy's over here.
(exciting music) (audience cheers)
Governor.
- [Chris] Bill, how are ya.
- [Bill] How you doing?
- [Chris] Good.
- [Bill] Thank you so much for being here.
- My pleasure.
- No, I really appreciate it because, I'm sure you know
in the past I may have done one or maybe two jokes.
- Yeah. (audience laughs)
You're not, but you're second place still behind
Letterman on fat jokes, so you'll be fine.
- Ah, fat jokes, I hadn't thought of that idea.
(Chris and audience laughing)
Can I tell ya the best one?
- Sure, yeah.
- Chris Christy can't run, he has skeletons in his closet.
Of cows. (Chris and audience laugh)
- [Barron] All right, let's take a closer look
at what's really going on here.
- [Bill] Much for being here.
- My pleasure.
- No, I really appreciate it because, I'm sure you know
in the past I may have done one or maybe two jokes.
- [Barron] So you notice how Bill Maher,
and most of these talk show hosts,
they really put some effort into establishing the frame
at the beginning of the interaction.
Like, before they get into any serious business,
it's kinda jokin' around, but listen to what he says.
It's not completely jokin' around, right,
he's tryin' to poke fun at him to establish,
listen, I'm the higher status here, I'm leading this,
this is my home court advantage.
Because if he's successful in doing that,
then the rest of the interview, the person he's interviewing
will assume a supplicative role.
So everything he says will have more authority,
and the guy will kinda look up to him a little bit
and suck up to him, and so that's kinda the goal of this.
So let's listen to exactly what he says.
- Yeah. (audience laughs)
You're not, but you're second place still behind
Letterman on the fat jokes, so you'll be fine.
- [Barron] All right, so what strategy
did Christy use right there?
He actually used one strategy two times in one sentence.
So the first strategy, when someone's gonna make fun of you,
or they're making fun of you, is to exaggerate it.
Because if you exaggerate it, it makes the other person
look dumb if they continue on that joke.
So, for instance, let's say that I'm reading something
in front of a group, and I pronounce it wrong.
And someone says, "You know, Barron,
"that's not how you pronounce it, it's like this,"
how could I exaggerate that?
Well, I look at him, and I say,
"Yeah, it'd be nice if I could read, wouldn't it?"
So you're kinda makin' fun of yourself,
but you say it in a tonality that's very confident.
So what he's doing is he says not only
Letterman has made fun of me more, so he's exaggerating,
he only made fun of me, Letterman made fun of me more.
He knows he's going to be talking about fat jokes, right.
That's the easy jokes on this guy, 'cause he's overweight.
So he, Bill Maher didn't even say anything about fat jokes,
but he goes, Letterman's gotcha beat.
He told more fat jokes.
So he's getting out in front of it
in two different ways in one sentence,
because then if Bill Maher hangs on it too much,
he's gonna look like a fool.
- Ah, fat jokes, I hadn't thought of that idea.
(Chris and audience laughing)
Can I tell ya the best one?
- Sure, yeah.
- Chris Christy can't run, he has skeletons in his closet.
Of cows.
- [Barron] Okay, so not only does he start out
by saying he's told a bunch of fat jokes about him,
now he makes him sit there and listen to a fat joke.
So if he's not trying to establish the frame
in the beginning of this interview, I don't know what is.
(Chris and audience laugh)
- I'm sorry. (laughs)
That's a pretty good one.
- [Barron] Okay, listen to this laugh.
(Chris laughs)
Look at his face, too.
He's clearly not offended, right.
He's not mad, he thinks it's somewhat funny,
he's going along with it.
It doesn't look like he's gettin' worked up about it, right,
he's fielded a few fat jokes in his day.
And that's really about all you can do at that point.
Because, you don't respond, because then you look defensive.
Just a little chuckle,
I think that's an appropriate thing to do.
But then, he has to do something to diffuse it.
You can't just sit there and take that,
so let's see what he does.
(Bill and audience laugh)
- That's a pretty good one, yeah, okay.
- Well, and I think Letterman's best one was he said.
- [Barron] Okay, so what does he do?
Once again, he exaggerates, and not only
does he not run from it, like that's enough fat jokes,
like let's talk about business,
he's like, well, Letterman had a good one too.
And he tells it himself.
So that's another example of, like my example of,
it'd be nice if I could even read.
Oh, you think that's a good fat joke?
Listen to this fat joke.
Just to show he doesn't care.
'Cause as we always talk about,
if you're new to this channel,
maybe you haven't heard this before,
but the one thing you don't want to do
when someone's tried to make you look bad
is have an emotional reaction.
So, how do people show an emotional reaction?
They get worked up, you can see it
in the muscles around their neck, their vocal tonality.
They try to change the subject, they get defensive.
Look at this guy.
He's gonna tell another fat joke.
- On Superbowl weekend, and we came back from Superbowl,
and he said, "This weekend, the," he said,
"two millions pounds of chicken wings were eaten,
and that was just at Governor Christy's house."
(audience laughs)
- Yeah, ours is better.
Anyway, ah, so.
- So maybe that's why he's off the air now,
who knows. - Well.
- [Barron] Okay, that last thing,
there's a little finesse to that.
So why did he say maybe that's why he's off the air?
It distanced himself from the joke.
So basically, he told the joke,
Bill Maher said it's not that funny, his joke is better,
and by him saying maybe that's why he's off the air,
it reiterates that that's Letterman's joke,
not his joke, right.
It was just a joke that he was saying.
So now, as opposed to being like, oh, that joke was dumb,
you're dumb, it's like, oh, that wasn't even my joke,
I was just saying another joke.
It's kind of a subtle nuance,
but it's kind of a nice way to distance himself
so that attachment of telling a bad joke
doesn't land on him, it's actually pointed at Letterman.
(audience laughs)
- So maybe that's why he's off the air now,
who knows. - Well, so why.
- [Barron] Let me ask you, how would you handle that?
What if you were sittin' down with Bill Maher,
and you were overweight, or what's something
that you're a little bit self-conscious about,
and Bill Maher sits down and immediately
starts tellin' jokes about that.
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