We spent $18,000 on three seats so that my kids could sleep overnight.
You might be saying that's a lot of money, Candace, to spend on seats.
Let me see access,
let me have access to your debit card in the way that you spend, right?
People that waste their time drinking on the weekends,
everyone gets to decide what they value in life.
Me, making sure my kids are rested when we're doing an overseas 10-hour flight,
having to deal with jet lag next day is worth it.
>> Candace Owens gets real defensive all the time.
And I don't know why she felt the need to respond to criticism after
she decided to spend $18,000 on airplane tickets for her children.
>> I think I know why.
>> She wanted to put them in business class.
She's super rich.
She's very wealthy.
So, I think that she got swindled here.
But are they going after her because as a rich woman,
she wanted to spend top dollar to put her kids in business class?
>> You think she got swindled on the tickets?
>> Yeah, $18,000 for business-class tickets sounds insane to me.
>> I wouldn't even know because why would I ever even look at them?
>> Yeah, exactly. >> I would never be able to afford them.
>> I'm in the same boat as you are, so I'm like, $18,000 sounds like a lot of money.
But we do have our stage manager here who used to work at airline companies, and
apparently, it's a lot of money.
>> Well, it's overseas, I guess.
Whatever, look, she is wealthy.
She can spend her money on whatever she wants.
All of that is true.
She's getting defensive because the facade,
the story is that they are regular people.
They're populous.
They live lives like their viewers.
It's not true.
>> I thought they lived their lives like their capitalists every single day, Cenk.
>> [LAUGH] I get the reference.
But every one of them wants to pretend that they are not the exact sort of
elitist that they demonized at every one of their shows.
>> No- >> They're not.
If you can spend $18,000 on literally anything at the drop of a hat,
you are an elitist.
>> I know, look, I totally get that, and that is a very valid point, right?
I can't stand the faux populism from the right wing.
I can't stand when they pretend like they're anti-elite when they themselves
are part of the elite and justify the worst actions of the elite.
But putting that aside for a second, something that has increasingly got on my
nerves as I've gotten older, even though I would never have the resources to spend
$18,000 on a plane ticket, is- >> You could get a car for that.
>> Everyone get off everyone else's balls, okay?
No, get off everyone else's balls.
First of all, I don't post anything on any social media platform these days because
everyone's looking to nitpick, like.
>> Which emoji is that?
>> I see it's meatless Monday, but you shared a photo of your dinner, and
there's meat in it.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
Get off my ball >> Yes, I get what you're saying.
>> She wants to spend $18,000 on tickets for her kids.
Have at it.
First of all, I don't care.
I don't need to know about those details- >> Yeah, I don't care.
I assume she spends money much more wildly than that.
>> If I had kids, I would probably spend every last dime on making them happy.
And I would probably do unreasonable things to make them happy.
Did I say unhappy accidentally?
>> I don't know.
Now I'm a little bit worried that your 40 and slipped signal danger ahead.
>> I'm not a fan of Candace Owens, but if she wants to spend $18,000, who cares?
>> I don't care if she spent $18,000.
But I do think the reason she's being defensive is she wants a perception of her
that she knows isn't true.
>> Okay, so here are some more details on the story.
So, the whole kerfuffle, by the way,
started on Monday with a series of enraged tweets.
>> How does anyone know about this?
>> I don't watch her show.
And by the way, she preemptively blocked me on Twitter.
>> I'm curious, I gotta check you.
Read the graphic. I'm gonna see if I'm blocked.
>> So, she wrote this, traveling with 2 children under two, booked 3 business
class seats because it was a 10-hour overnight journey, and wanted beds.
We board plane to find there is full power outage on only our 3 seats.
They cannot recline, TVs don't work, cannot charge our phones.
British Airways captain came over and apologized and said they would refund us.
Obviously, just got off the phone with British Airlines and
they are offering only $200 voucher.
That's capitalism, baby.
That's capitalism.
>> Okay, look, I'm kind of on her.
>> Does she wanna regulate them?
You wanna regulate them Candance?
>> By the way, that whole $200 travel voucher-
>> This story just got real interesting.
>> Yeah, and that travel voucher is even worse cuz you have to pay $100 fee to use
your travel voucher.
So, that's not gonna buy much business class.
>> No, I love the story even more now.
>> Look, I'm on her side in terms of if you pay $6,000 and
everything is broken, then you should get something for that.
But I'm generally not on the side of people who can afford to spend
$18,000 on flight.
Also, she has tweeted out that she spent $18,000.
>> Now I get it. Now I understand how this all came to
the public.
>> I'm less critical of her, actually, as a result of this.
If it was that somebody leaked that she spent the $18,000 and now she's all
defensive, I'm more critical than if she just openly admits she spends $18,000.
Then I don't know why you're getting defensive.
You admitted it.
You should know that that's crazy. >> But also, Candace, welcome to
traveling for everyone these days, right?
Is she shocked by this?
How are you shocked?
That the just gave you that.
And by the way, I don't know. She's a public figure.
She wants a full refund, so
she's blasting them with her huge following in order to get what she wants.
>> You're allowed to.
Assuming she's being honest about what happened.
>> Right.