so welcome back to our channel today we are going to be discussing the myths and the wonders and
the big conversational topic of e10 fuel yes e10 fuel is graced the presence of us here in the uk
is it any good can you use it in small machinery well we're going to do a very special experiment
to find out whether you can use it in your still equipment so we're going to do e10 versus steel
motor mix so we're going to fill both machines up with the fuel we're going to run them then we're
going to store them and we're going to see what happens to these saws in six months six months
six months then see if they start again and see how they perform so today we're going to fill
them up do some cutting with them see how well they go through the wood and then we're going
to do the same thing in six months time so make sure you subscribe to our channel so you don't
miss out on that video one thought is going to have e10 mix with 50 to 1 and the other one is
going to have the still moto mix well first of all tell me why is our source difference now they are
different okay we've got two ms231s nice source nice source very nicely available on our website
machinery.com they are available on our website this is the c and you've got the
just the standard standard yeah so the difference is the 231 this one has a special recall in it so
that you can it's an easier to start saw but not easy with regards to fresh fuel that's normally
the problem why people can't start machinery this one's got the easy start so you just pull it up
and so it automatically starts itself that one has got the standard recall on which everyone's
used to so james can you use e10 fuel in a steel chainsaw yes and i'll tell you why so e10 fuel
is absolutely fine to run in your steel chainsaws power equipment two strokes whatever it is you've
got still e10 is absolutely fine in actual fact still have been developing their products for 18
years to be able to run on e10 fuel yeah 18 years they've been doing this for a long time but there
is a negative isn't it ryan it is negative is down to the storage of e10 so e10 means it's
up to 10 percent ethanol and what ethanol does it attracts water vapor so it's been stored for
quite a long time the water vapor air vapor in the air attaches to the ethanol content in the fuel
leading to fuel segregation no one wants water in the fuel that then can actually rust out your
carbon inside i know if you've seen other videos old mowers and things that with white inside the
carburetors and things that that's what happens to these ones here that is the ethanol content
in there with the water mixing up and actually rusting from inside so freshly 10 fuel
no problems at all but after around about 30 days and even stills guidelines says anything over 30
days eat 10 fuel it's best to disregard the fuel in a safe manner so if you're a professional
that's going to be absolutely fine you can run your saw on e10 fuel all day long all day
every day which is great but let's say you were a domestic user and you only use your saw for a few
days a year but you store it with e10 fuel in it you're going to come to a point where you're going
to get us all off the shelf and that fuel is going to be stale inside it's going to have all dried up
it's going to all your gaskets and diaphragms and everything that's inside your carburetor are not
going to be very good and it's probably not going to work very well but there is another option
ryan and that option is alkali petrol so this one here is still motormix for example and it is a e0
fuel james can tell me more about it there is no ethanol in still motor mix it is an alkalate fuel
it lasts for up to five years so even if it's in your little priming bulb on your machine
this little gizmo here even if it's in there it'll still last for five years it's got those beautiful
properties about it but another massive thing is for your health it's a lot safer it's a lot
easier to use it doesn't have all of the horrible was it benzenes and enzymes and benzenes benzenes
but yeah that's got lots of horrible things in it which aren't very good whereas the alkali fuel
is such a refined process how they make it is a really really clean fuel we've been using alkalate
fuel for seven years seven years in our workshops because we know that if we service a machine
and then the customer takes it away but they don't use it for six months
we know it's still going to work so there's also another interesting thing
about steel chainsaws and their development say on the standard tunable carburetors yep recommended
no more than uh e10 fuel on there it just won't handle it however if you've got an m-tronic saw
mainly designed for the professional users those stores have actually been engineered
and designed for up to e25 fuel so they're trying to proto proof those saws going forward
that's very unique to to still not aware of any other manufacturers doing that yes 25
ethanol content if you run an m-tronic in your professional equipment you're like
yeah it must be because i don't think they'd make any 25 fuel they probably
do somewhere in some laboratory in china we all know what happens there
and but they it must just be full of water because as i said the ethanol just draws
water towards it is that water is attracted to it well if e10 yeah if b10 you know you're not
recommending to store it for more than 30 days e25 must be what a few hours
that's a dreadful right so why ryan has gone to put his glad rags on because he's going to do
the cutting only fair i think you've seen me do enough cutting in the time and you're taking mick
out of me anyway and i'm doing it so you might as well take a mic out of ryan instead please do
in the comments by the way comment on all of his cutting techniques because that's just fun we are
going to go for the e10 in the ms-231c in here so all premixed is exactly 50 to 1 to manufacturer's
recommendations gonna fill it right up there we go she's full by the way we did have all the carbs
cleaned with both carbs cleaned all these stores because they are second outsourced we thought well
you're not storing new saws all the time because once you've used them they're second hand so we
thought we'd use two saws which have been pre-used clip your cap on that one that's now sealed not
coming off for six months let's put the moto mix into the normal mf-231 it's not like we've never
made any mistakes in our videos before look at that it pours really really well oh look at that
motor mix filled right to the top two saws filled up with the correct jungle juice to manufacture
specifications all ready for ryan to do some cutting let's go and find out where he's doing
get him to cut through a log so i got my main man ryan here dressed in his still ppe well nearly all
still ppe we apologize for any offense caused it's still marketing's watching this i could really do
with another pair of trousers i know look at it they almost look like they've been used
step ryan which saw would you like first ms231 please ms231
all right that's that one because that's a c um ethanol or non-ethanol
let's go for ethanol first ethanol first which we've put into the c and account how many times
it takes to pull starter it's not a time test it's just literally to see what the power is
like so we're comparing this saw against what this saw was going to do in six months i'm ready
i've got ear protection on but i'm still over here one two three four five six oh off of the choke
six so far seven hey all right eight poles eight full for the e10 fuel here's the second hand saw
well done ryan which store would you like next mate i'll have the other one oh that
one oh yeah that makes a lot of sense doesn't it stand by you're the timber
hey that's a bit like till steel timber sports isn't it
don't forget we've got a competition in a minute for our next subscriber giveaway
oh hang on did i count them are you counting sorry six seven eight nine
right nine on the motor mix at the moment but it is cold today as well it is cold it is cold
suppose you could have sharpened the chains before we came out today but nevermind that's
not what we're looking at we're not looking at how quickly you can go through we are looking at
how well that will start and work compared to what it will in six months time so now the fuel's gone
all the way around the carb now it's all gone into the cylinder so we know it's coated the engine
really well yeah so good fair test for both swords yeah so both swords are now just gonna be stopped
and left for six months what a waste of a saw and the doubt someone's gonna write that in the
comments do you agree poor little chainsaws they should be used ryan shouldn't they they should be
put to work should we give something away for our next subscriber giveaway what do we need to
do to uh enter be a subscriber is that it yeah as long as you subscribe to our channel you are
in with a chance of winning no matter where you are in the world how about that so who
is a lucky lucky person this time so being that this is a still video with still chainsaws and
still moto mix and a still helmet um a still helmet and still trousers and still trousers
i'm not calling ryan a helmet i promise how am i still here
we're going to give away some steel goodies yes we've got a lovely still baseball cap because
we love a steel baseball cap who doesn't and still limited editions timber sports
bar beautiful looking bar is for 14 inch chainsaw bar running on a 3 8 chain so there we are and
some key rings to add up and we find some more things we might throw them in as well including
a sticker a haze machinery sticker sheet yeah why not because everyone's asking for them these days
who is the winner today ryan it is electrical run electrical run congratulations congratulations
electrical ron well done you are the winner of some lovely prizes let us know in the comments
or ping us an email info hayesmachinery.co.uk and we can get them sent off to you we've got
three things that our beautiful viewers need to know about this video one is that yes you
can use e10 fuel in all of your still equipment even still say you can't it's absolutely fine the
thing you mustn't do though is don't store it for any longer than 30 days because it's going
to go off it's going to get stale it's going to do harm to your machines it's not going to be a
very nice experience at all but even better still you still metamax still better still
you still mix it's got a five-year shelf life it's better for your health it's an old three ethanol
free and it's pre-mixed so you just literally have your sword like you saw me do just now you just
tip it in and that's it it's easy nice and easy so the interesting thing is right
we'd like you to put in the comments which one of those saws in six months time do you think
is going to start the quickest obviously it's eight poles on the e10 and it has nine pulls
on the motor mix that's probably something to do with the starter but it's comparing
what it's going to be like in six months time which one do you think will start easier than
the other that'll be an interesting fight i'm just i'm excited to roll forward six months
now but any other videos you want to see as well just drop us a comment below we'll get
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