Well you went from having an actual art flair and
Anderson being something of a Picasso to a different form of art,
something more resembling giving a child a can of spray paint.
We've got wargames up next.
Team Hogan, the Hulkster himself.
The macho man Lex Luger and the Stinger vs Vic's favorite
stable faction of all time, the dungeon of doom.
I would like to do a dungeon of doom episode at some point because, man,
some of the garbage that came out of that which is crazy because think of
the talent that was in the dungeon of doom.
As a whole from start to finish from its inception to when it was finally
dissolved.
Think of the guys who actually were in the dungeon of doom.
Brutus beefcake, Ed Leslie, whatever you wanna call him with 26 different gimmicks.
At this point he was the Zodiac,
earthquake as we knew him in WWE goes to WCW and becomes a shark.
And he's gonna call the Hulk maniacs >> There are Shark.
>> He's not a shark easy shark.
Right, [CROSSTALK] >> Kamala Ugandan giant, we've got manga,
universally renowned is arguably the toughest guy who's ever been in
the business, Kevin [INAUDIBLE].
>> I have the full list in front of me and it's larger than I remember.
>> Well I'm just these are from from the best of my recollection.
Who else do we have?
>> Here's the full list.
The Master, The Taskmaster, Kamala, Lex Luger, The Yeti,
Jimmy Hart, The Shark, Big Van Vader, the Zodiac Ming the giant humors.
The Barbarian, Conan, Max, max muscle, Big Bubba, Brown the Leprechaun,
One man gang, Z gangster, The ultimate solution, Loch Ness and Jacqueline.
>> Jackie who's in the dungeon of doom.
>> Apparently,1997.
>> My goodness.
>> [CROSSTALK] >> But you listed off some really truly
heavy hitters, particularly from my childhood.
Think of the Hogan era, WWE Hulkamania.
Every enemy Hogan ever had in WWE,
basically came to WCW and formed the Dungeon of the Doom.
On paper, great idea.
But my God, it was the hokiest thing of all time.
>> In nine 1995 though you sat you couldn't take your eyes off it and
let's not forget.
>> No, no, no, I disagree Vic, I learned it because even as a fan.
>> You did not, you were the one calling staying on a fake hotline to talk to him.
You didn't buy into the dungeon of doom.
>> That was several years prior and yes.
>> Bull.
>> Staying and not answering the okay so,
honestly I think that on a human being level did something to me.
When I read people go, I realized it was just entertainment or
all there was that moment never meet your heroes.
I didn't meet my hero.
I listened to a recording of him that I paid money for.
And that was when I went Well, maybe this isn't what I thought it was.
And it really really threw me for a loop and
I think I held a bit of a grudge against WCW as a whole for many moons.
Which also and I keep referencing my dad but
this is what we did is as I was growing up, my dad and I watched wrestling,
that was what we bonded over to this day.
That's what we bond over and talk about is wrestling.
So my dad had a lot of opinions and I think I absorbed by osmosis.
Like hating guys who didn't wear actual wrestling gear, and
my dad loved the big boss man, my dad loved Kamala.
Not in WCW, not in the dungeon of doom.
So, by default I just didn't have time for any of these guys.
I liked Brutus the barber beefcake.
Brutus was one of my guys.
And now he's in WCW.
Wearing zebra face paint going yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.
To the pleasure and delight of nobody.
>> The Dungeon of Doom was so
bad it was cool looking back at it- >> No, no, no, now-
>> I'm a big fan of Dungeon of Doom.
>> Okay, so if we're going on in the nostalgia hole,
I would absolutely wear a Dungeon of doom t shirt today.
>> Yes. >> Purely for the ironic value.
It doesn't mean it's cool.
It wasn't good.
It's one of those things we look back fondly,
because it's funny to make fun of and it's entertaining for all the wrong reasons and
it still has stood the test of time for none of the reasons intended.
>> It's also the era where we're still pretending like Big Show or
giant is Andreas son, because every Oregon's motorcycle with a monster truck.
That he would interview with Hogan and he says
>> All of a sudden I felt this or
this presence.
I felt Andre man right in my face.
>> I mean, what about the monster truck on the roof?
I mean they had so much bad stuff.
It was great looking back.
>> Well Dan, that wasn't the only ludicrous statement to slip past
the holsters lips, particularly in this event.
Alex, I believe you you've provided me with the quote from one Hulk Hogan
during the pre match interview.
>> You can like it or whatever you want big dude.
But right now, my war games, my teams are together brother and
we just drunk a couple of gallons of Agent Orange brother.
So we're impervious to pain man.
>> Here you have everybody's hero, the hero of a generation.
Basically Superman.
Saying, you know why we're gonna win this fight guys?
We just drank Agent Orange.
Gallons of it, which newsflash holster that will kill you, that will kill you.
>> The horrible graves, the Hulk Hogan.
>> But you can't just go out there and say, hey, you know what?
I'm ready for this battle,
I drink Agent Orange because it makes me impervious to pain.
You know why, you don't feel pain Hulk cuz you're dead, okay?
You cease to breathe and exist, because Agent Orange will kill you.
So [LAUGH] I don't know, it was a lot, It was ridiculous and
then hidden later on would sort of double down on Hogan's ridiculousness when
there was a fistful of mysterious powder thrown into the face of a competitor.
He even declared.
>> It smells like napalm or gunpowder.
>> I know we're really leaning into the military theme of this pay-per-view.
Bobby might've been drinking a little bit of the same agent orange spiked
Kool-Aid that the Hawkstar was.
>> I loved the pre match promo, because it never seemed like it was going to end like
they walked off like it was over and then all of a sudden sting would run back in
and have two lines then savage would run back.
It was just absolute chaos.
And then I think Dan, you and
I actually talked about this off air Hogan gives away the finish in the promo.
>> [CROSSTALK] >> He goes, and if I win, if I win,
I'm gonna get five minutes with the taskmaster.
And then they come out to the ring announcer, breaking news Michael Buffer
goes if Hulk Hogan's team wins, he's gonna get five minutes alone with a taskmaster.
But Hogan just said it in the promo.
Like it was just so wild to me.
>> Yeah, you knew what was happening.
>> It was so wild, I was like wait a minute, hold on a second, rewind.
>> Because I want five minutes with The Task Master.
[APPLAUSE] >> [INAUDIBLE] We also uses a DTA,
don't trust anybody 1995.
He says that in the promo.
[CROSSTALK] >> DTA don't ever trust nobody.
That was my favorite when [LAUGH].
>> That's Luger pulls out a rifle, and is aiming at things, and they're like,
what the hell is going on?
It was awesome.
>> They really leaned into it, and I admire the dedication.
But some things, this was the cartoon stuff.
This is the sort of stuff that nowadays.
We look back upon as fun, as entertaining, it's nostalgia.
But nowadays it just doesn't work.
It doesn't hold up,
it does not feel important nowadays it feels less than hokey.
>> I'm gonna tell hokey two, three years later.
I mean once we started moving towards dx and Austin everything like they were done
with the gimmicks like that, >> Even the backstage interview with mean
gene and he goes, pull up your socks and get ready.
>> You talking about pull up your socks.
Like it was so unbelievable.
That was my absolute favorite part was the pre-match promo before the main event.
That's my biggest thing for fall brawl 95.
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