-- A TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHUTDOWN
OF MUSLIMS ENTERED THE UNITED
STATES.
CAMERON: THIS IS WXII 12 NEWS
CHRONICLE.
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CAMERON:
THANK YOU FOR JOINING
US FOR THIS NEW
PART OF WXII 12
NEWS.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A YEAR OF
CAMPAIGN PROMISES, STUMP
SPEECHES, AND SOUNDBITES.
BUT HERE ON CHRONICLE, WE WANT
TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
THE DEEPER, ANSWER QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE QUESTIONS FACING OUR
COUNTRY.
WE BEGAN THE TODAY SHOW
-- THIS
DEBUT SHOW WITH A SITDOWN WITH
REPUBLICAN SENATOR RICHARD BURR
WHO HAS SERVED IN CONGRESS FOR
TWO DECADES, FIRST IN THE HOUSE,
NOW IN THE SENATE.
SEN. BURR:
YOU AND I STOOD ON
THE ROOF AT THE WASHINGTON HOTEL
IN 1995.
YOU HAVE JUST BEEN INAUGURATED
FRESHMEN COMMERCE AND.
WHAT DID YOU COME TO WASHINGTON
TO DO 20 YEARS AGO? -- WHAT DID
YOU DO TO COME TO WASHINGTON 20
YEARS AGO?
SEN. BURR: I WANTED TO MAKE
SURE
THAT TODAY, SOME 21 YEARS LATER,
I THINK WE HAVE MADE INCREMENTAL
PROGRESS.
IT IS LIKE ANYTHING IN HISTORY.
YOU CANNOT PREDICT WHAT THE
FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.
WE HAVE BEEN THROWN CURVEBALLS
IN THE ECONOMY, AND CERTAINLY,
WE HAVE GOT ME THE CURVEBALL
RELATING TO THE WAR ON TERROR
THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
THIS IS WHERE I THINK WE WILL
SEE THE STRENGTH OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND THE RESOLVE OF THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AS WE TAKE ON
THOSE CHALLENGES AND OVERCOME
THEM.
THE THING I'M REMINDED OF
TODAY
IS THAT I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS
ABOUT THE EVENT.
I THOUGHT I WAS A MEMBER OF
CONGRESS.
IT
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME OR
ANY OF US.
IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE
NEXT GENERATION AND
WHETHER WE
ARE GOING TO BE BOLD ENOUGH TO
MAKE DECISIONS THAT MIGHT BE
UNPOPULAR TODAY THAT IT
BENEFICIAL TOMORROW TO OUR KIDS
AND GRAND CHILDREN.
SEN. BURR:
YOU ARE PRIVY TO A
LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T
EVER GET TO HEAR.
HOW BIG OF A THREAT TO THINK
ISIS IS TO THE AMERICAN
WAY OF LIFE?
SEN. BURR:
IT IS THE BIGGEST
THAT OF MY LIFETIME.
-- THREAT OF MY LIFETIME.
BUT, THE FEE DEVICES, NOT THE
CONTAINMENT, WILL TAKE THE
GLOBAL COMMITMENT THAT COUNTRIES
ME IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
IT IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ENEMY
IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
THIS IS EVERY BIT AS THREATENING
TO THE FUTURE OF THE UNITED
STATES AND EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED
COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
TAKE EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY.
CAMERON:
I WON TO ASK YOU ABOUT
THE DISCOURSE IN WASHINGTON.
AS THE TONE AND--WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THE DISCOURSE IN
WASHINGTON.
HAS THE TONE CHANGED?
SEN. BURR: AS MUCH AS
WE HAVE
ALL BECOME ACCUS
TOMED TO IT,
SOCIAL MEDIA HAS CHANGED THE WAY
AMERICANS INTERACT.
IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE A
NARRATIVE WITHOUT IDENTITY.
WHAT IS TO BE DIPLOMATIC AND
CIVIL CAN BE AS WILD AND CRAZY
AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE IS NO
IDENTITY TO MYSELF.
NO KNOWS I AM DOING IT.
I THINK THAT HAS CHANGED THE
DISCUSSION AND THE DISCOURSE
HERE AS WELL.
MANY OF THOSE FOLKS E-MAIL INTO
OUR OFFICE, WRITE LETTERS.
THEY ARE FUELED BY SOMETHING
THAT HAS NO FACTUAL RELEVANCE,
WHATSOEVER.
THAT START SNOWBALLING DOWN THE
HILL AND GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER.
WHAT WE SEE IN THE PRESIDENTIAL
CAMPAIGN SO FAR IS A
CONTINUATION OF THAT SO FAR,
WHERE CANDIDATES
SAY SOMETHING
THAT IS THOUGHT THROUGH HAS GONE
OUT THE WINDOW.
IT IS WHO CAN SAY THE MOST
EGREGIOUS THINGS TO CHARGE THE
CONSTITUENCY UP.
THIS IS
, I HOPE, A TEMPORARY
THING.
THIS CHANGES GOVERNING IN A REAL
WAY.
I THINK THE UNITED STATES
CONGRESS HAS ALWAYS HAD
DIVISIVENESS.
IT CAN STILL GOVERN.
THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE CONTINUE
TO GOVERN?
THE RESPONSIBILITY WILL
LIE NOT
ONLY IN THIS INSTITUTION, BUT AT
PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THEM
CONTROL.
YOU'RE A SPORTS FAN.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT
ALL THE MASS
SHOOTINGS WILL STAND IN YOUR
WAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
NEEDS TO
BE TWEAKED?
SEN. BURR: NOW IS THE TIME TO
DEBATE ON WHETHER IT WILL
BETWEEN.
IF THE ONLY OPTION IS USING
ADDITIONAL GOVERN THESE SPACES
-- GOVERNMENT DATABASES THAT
JEOPARDIZE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
AND THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT
RIGHTS, IT IS THE BAIT THAT WE
NEED TO HAVE CAREFULLY.
-- A DEBATE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE
CAREFULLY.
HOW LARGE OF AROLDIS ARE
FAITHFULLY IN YOUR
DECISION-MAKING?
-- FAITH PLAY IN YOUR
DECISION-MAKING?
CAMERON: I DON'T THINK ANYONE
WHO DOES NOT HAVE FAITH IN THEIR
DECISION-MAKING CAN DO THIS JOB.
THE DECISIONS WE MAKE OUR
DECISIONS OUT OF OUR HANDS.
THEY ARE IN THE HANDS OF
SOMEBODY MUCH MORE POWERFUL,
MUCH MORE DOMINANT.
THAT'S GOD.
WITHOUT
THAT,
IT WOULD BE
IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS
I CONSIDER TO BE LIFE OR DEATH.
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN
YOU HAVE A
LIMITED AMOUNT OF DOLLARS?
PROVIDE HEALTH CARE FOR SENIORS
OR FOR CHILDREN?
THESE ARE ALL
THINGS -- I'M NOT
WILLING TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
I HAVE TO TURN TO PRAYER,
TO TRUST THAT THERE IS GUIDANCE
THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.
THAT GUIDANCE IS MANY TIMES
PROVIDED.
CLEARLY, THE DECISIONS THAT WE
HAVE TO MAKE HAVE GOTTEN
TOUGHER.
WITHOUT FAITH, THIS IS NOT A
JOB
THAT ONE CAN STAND FOR VERY
LONG.
CAMERON:
IN HOSTILE
REPRESENTATIVE'S, I SAT DOWN
ONE-ON-ONE WITH MARK WALKER,
--
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
I SAT DOWN ONE-ON-ONE WITH MARK
WALKER.
HE HAS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON
FAITH IN WASHINGTON.
CAMERON: YOU'RE A BAPTIST
MINISTER.
HOW IMPORTANT IS FAITH IN YOUR
DECISION-MAKING?
REP. WALKER: IT IS IMPORTANT IN
EVERY DECISION THAT I MAKE.
IT IS IMPORTANT HOW I DEAL WITH
MY WIFE, MY CHILDREN, HOPEFULLY
MY DAILY LIFE.
IT IS A FACTOR IN EVERY OTHER
ASPECT OF MY LIFE.
CAMERON:
WHEN YOU MAKE A
DECISION THAT YOU THINK IS A
TOUGH DECISION, DO YOU GO TO
PRAYER, DO YOU SIT DOWN AND
THINK ABOUT THAT ON THAT LEVEL,
THAT FOUNDATION?
REP. WALKER: THAT'S AN
INTROSPECTIVE, POWERFUL
QUESTION.
I ADMIRE THAT YOU WOULD EVEN
SUGGEST ARE ASKED THAT.
I START EACH DAY IN PRAYER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE CAN TRUST
THEIR OWN INTELLECTUAL INSTINCTS
WITH THE FORCES IN WASHINGTON DC
NOW.
THERE ARE GROUP OF US THAT COME
IN ON MONDAY NIGHT AFTER THE
FIRST VOTE, AND WE
MEET WITH THE
MAJORITY LEADER.
WE
HAVE A TIME OF PROCESSING AND
PRAYING AND LOOKING AT THE
LEGISLATION.
IF THE FAMILY HAS A NEED, WE
TAKE A TIME OF PRAYER AND THAT
IS SOMETHING THAT IS INTERWOVEN
INTO THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
CAMERON:
DOES IT EVER CAUSE
INTERNAL CONFLICT FOR YOU WHEN
YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT
SENDING YOUNG MEN INTO OR TO
KILL AN ENEMY.
THE BIBLE TELLS YOU
TO LOVE YOUR
ENEMIES.
IS THAT GREAT A PARADOX -- DOES
THAT CREATE A PARADOX?
REP. WALKER: NO.
I DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER,
LEGISLATIVELY, TO PROTECT THE
PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES.
I'VE GOT A BIBLE HERE WITH ME,
BUT MY OATH IS TO THE
CONSTITUTION.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WILL NOT
TRY TO REACH OUT AND CONNECT AND
TALK.
MY JOB, RIGHT HERE IN
WASHINGTON, IS MAKING SURE THAT
I TAKE CARE OF CITIZENS OF THE
UNITED STATES.
CAMERON:
HE SERVED IN CALGARY
BEFORE MOVING TO LAWNDALE
BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION
NEXT WITH RECENT COMMENTS FROM
FRANKLIN GRAHAM.
WHY HE
SAYS HE IS ON A CAMPAIGN
FOR GOD
.