TRIAL AS ANY TRULY FAIR CASE
REQUIRES HEARING AND TESTING
BOTH ARGUMENTS FROM THE
PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE.
NOW TONIGHT WE TURN TO SOMEONE
WHO IS STANDING BY TRUMP, A
VETERAN OF BOTH TRUMP CAMPAIGNS
AND THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WHERE
HE WAS A SPECIAL ASSISTANT AND A
LICENSED ATTORNEY WITH A JD FROM
GEORGETOWN LAW.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND A
WONDERFUL RAIDING OFEADING OF MY
>> LET ME START WITH THE LEGAL
PROBLEMS FACING THE PRESIDENT.
ENCOURAGING VIOLENCE BY
SUPPORTERS FOR YEARS, TRYING TO
ILLEGALLY STEAL THE 2020
ELECTION, TRYING TO USE THAT
JANUARY 6 CERTIFICATION TO
OVERTHROW THE RESULT.
THAT WAS HIS GOAL, THAT’S NOT IN
DOUBT.
SUMMONS SUPPORTERS ON JANUARY 6,
TELLING THEM TO MARCH ON THE
CAPITOL AND QUOTE FIGHT, AND NOW
STEVE BANNON SAID ON JANUARY
5th, THE DAY BEFORE, THAT THE
RALLY WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY
DIFFERENT.
ALL I CAN SAY IS "STRAP IN."
YOUR RESPONSE TO ALL OF THAT
EVIDENCE OFFERED THAT DONALD
TRUMP WAS INCITING THIS.
>> THANKS SO MUCH, ARI.
ALL THAT EVIDENCE IS ABSOLUTE
NONSENSE.
I WAS AT THE SPEECH ON JANUARY
6th.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID
SPECIFICALLY, I’M SURPRISED YOU
DIDN’T PUT THIS QUOTE UP THERE,
THAT PEOPLE SHOULD MARCH
PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY TO
THE CAPITOL.
PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTICALLY, NO
INCITEMENT THERE WHATSOEVER.
IN TERMS OF TRYING TO STEAL THE
ELECTION, TALKING ABOUT ELECTION
FRAUD, VOTER FRAUD, BRINGING UP
SPECIFICS, TALKING ABOUT OVER
200,000 UNLAWFUL BALLOTS IN
WISCONSIN, OVER 400,000
ALLEGEDLY ILLEGITIMATE BALLOTS
IN GEORGIA, IT’S TOWARD
DISCUSSING ELECTION FRAUD AND
MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS OF ARTICLE
II OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT
OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE PAST
ELECTION.
>> BOR, YOU’RE QUOTING SOME OF
DONALD TRUMP’S WORDS ON JANUARY
6.
BUT AS YOU KNOW AS A LAWYER, THE
FACT THAT THERE WAS A WORD THAT
WAS NOT ILLEGAL OR ACCEPTABLE
DOESN’T CANCEL EVERYTHING OUT.
IF TONY SOPRANO ORDERS A HIT.
>> OH, COME ON, ARI.
>> AND THEN SAYS BE PEACEFUL, IT
DOESN’T CANCEL IT OUT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE AT THE
TRIAL.
THERE ISN’T A FACTUAL DEBATE
OVER DONALD TRUMP ENCOURAGING
VIOLENCE.
YOU KNOW HE’S DONE THAT FOR
YEARS.
>> YES, THERE’S ROOM FOR DEBATE.
>> YOU’VE DONE THIS BEFORE, YOU
KNOW HOW THESE INTERVIEWS WORK.
DOES YOUR ARGUMENT BOIL DOWN TO
THE CLAIM THAT WHILE I DIDHE DID
ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE IN THE PAST
HE DIDN’T MEAN IT ON JANUARY 6.
>> IT HAS VECTORS.
ONE, THE ELECTION WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
YOU CANNOT HAVE AN IMPEACHMENT
TRIAL NOR A FORMER PRESIDENT.
THE WHOLE STRUCTURE OF
IMPEACHMENT IS STRUCTURED AROUND
AN INDIVIDUAL CURRENTLY
PRESIDENT.
THE TRIAL IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
NUMBER TWO --
>> LET ME TAKE THESE NUMBER ONE.
YOU SAID NUMBER ONE, WE’LL PUT
UP NUMBER ONE.
THAT FORMER OFFICIALS.
WE’RE GOING TO GO IN ORDER.
WE CAN BOTH COUNT.
FORMER OFFICIALS CAN BE BANNED
IN OFFICE.
THAT IS.
>> YOU’RE BASING THAT ON WHAT?
>> LET ME READ, YOU’LL FIND OUT
ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
THE CONSTITUTION EMPOWERS THE
SENATE TO BARICON VIKT CONVICTED
OFFICIALS FROM OFFICE.
THE THING YOU JUST REFERRED TO
HAS ALREADY HAPPENED AND THE
SENATE HAS CONVICTED OFFICIALS
AFTER THEY’VE LEFT OFFICE.
I NEED TO HAVE OUR VIEWERS TO
HAVE THOSE FACTS.
>> YOU REFERENCE BELL MAP, THE
1876 ISSUE AROUND THE SECRETARY
OF WAR, HE WAS NEVER CONVICTED
BY THE SENATE.
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TRIAL
OVER A FORMER PRESIDENT.
WE DON’T KNOW WHO PRESIDES, THE
CHIEF JUSTICE PRESIDES OVER A
TRIAL OF A CURRENT PRESIDENT.
ONLY POWERS GIVEN ARE TO REMOVE
AND DISQUALIFY.
>> THAT WAS YOUR POINT ONE.
SINCE WE CAN BOTH COUNT.
THAT WAS ONE.
I’VE FACT CHECKED IT.
DO YOU WANT TO GO ON TO TWO?
>> NUMBER TWO, THE PRESIDENT HAS
ALREADY STATED, MARCH PEACEFULLY
AND PATRIOTICALLY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIMELINE, THE
VIDEO, THE RIOT AT THE CAPITOL,
WHICH I ABSOLUTELY CONDEMN, AS
HAS THE PRESIDENT, STARTED
BEFORE THE PRESIDENT WAS DONE
SPEAKING.
THAT’S NUMBER TWO.
NUMBER THREE, IT IS NOT --
>> STAY ON NUMBER TWO.
I TOLD YOU WE’D GO PIECE BY
PIECE.
YOU’RE GOING TWO TO THREE,
BORIS, I GOT TO HANG YOU UP.
NUMBER TWO, OKAY, I WANT TO PLAY
FOR YOU DONALD TRUMP, WHAT HE
SAID ABOUT THESE RIOTERS.
WHAT HE SAID TO INCITE, WHAT HE
SAID, CALLING THEM "SPECIAL",
AND ALL THAT, EVEN AFTER THEIR
CRIMES WERE ON AIR, TAKE A LOOK
AT THAT, THE PRAISE.
>> AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO
FIGHT MUCH HARDER.
YOU’LL NEVER TAKE BACK OUR
COUNTRY WITH WEAKNESS.
>> THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY ARE
ANGRY.
WE FIGHT.
WE FIGHT LIKE HELL.
WE LOVE YOU, YOU’RE VERY
SPECIAL.
>> YOU DIDN’T PLAY THE GO HOME
IN PEACE PART.
>> I WANT YOU TO RESPOND, SIR.
HOLD ON.
THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.
>> IT’S SO FUNNY.
>> WE LOVE YOU.
YOU’RE VERY SPECIAL.
HE SAID IT TO THE PEOPLE YOU SAW
ON SCREEN WHILE THEY DID THEIR
CRIMES.
WAS THAT WRONG?
SHOULD HE TAKE IT BACK?
DO YOU LOVE THEM?
ARE THEY STILL VERY SPECIAL?
>> I LOVE HOW FIRED UP YOU ARE,
BUT YOU DID NOT PLAY THE PART
WHERE THE PRESIDENT SPECIFICALLY
CONDEMNED VIOLENCE, SPECIFICALLY
SAID GO HOME IN PEACE.
THAT WAS COMPLETELY SELECTIVE.
THAMS’ A
FRANKLY THAT’S A JOKE.
YOU SHOULD FIRE WHOEVER PUT THAT
TOGETHER.
THAT WAS DISGUSTING --
>> WE’RE NOT HERE FOR YOUR
ADVICE TO DO WHAT WE DO.
YOU’RE OUT OF ORDER.
FINAL QUESTION ON MITCH
McCONNELL.
LISTEN TO MITCH McCONNELL.
TAKE A LISTEN.
>> THE MOB WAS FED LIES.
THEY WERE PROVOKED BY THE
PRESIDENT AND OTHER POWERFUL
PEOPLE.
AND THEY TRIED TO USE FEAR AND
VIOLENCE TO STOP A SPECIFIC
PROCEEDING OF THE FIRST BRANCH
OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH
THEY DID NOT LIKE.
>> REPUBLICAN LEADER SENATOR
McCONNELL SAYS DONALD TRUMP
PROVOKED THIS.
IS HE RIGHT OR WRONG?
>> WRONG, I DISAGREE WITH LEADER
McCONNELL.
THE THIRD POINT IS THIS.
IT IS NOT INCITEMENT, IT IS NOT
INSURRECTION.
IT’S NOT SEDITION TO TALK ABOUT
VOTER FRAUD, ELECTION FRAUD.
IT IS NOT INSURRECTION TO OPPOSE
AND RAISE OBJECTIONS.
NANCY PELOSI SUPPORTED
OBJECTIONS TO THE CERTIFICATION
OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SELECTION
IN 2016.
RASKIN, ONE OF THE MANAGERS FOR
THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS, HAS BROUGHT
UP OBJECTIONS BEFORE.
IT IS UNDER THE UNITED STATES
CONSTITUTION.
IT IS PURSUANT TO OUR FIRST
AMENDMENT TO MAKE THESE
STATEMENTS TO OBJECT AND TO
DISCUSS THE REAL ELECTION FRAUD,
THE REAL VOTER FRAUD THAT
HAPPENED IN THIS LAST ELECTION.
>> BORIS, YOU GOT YOUR TIME,
SOME OF WHICH YOU SAID WAS FALSE
AND WE CLARIFIED THAT IN REAL
TIME FOR THE VIEWERS.
SOME OF THAT YOU SAID WAS YOUR
RIGHTFUL DEFENSE OF DONALD