>> If you've spent any time on Instagram, you've noticed black and white images of women
with the hashtag, challenge accepted, or women support women. And it's all an effort to uplift
women in your life, to give them some of the confidence that they might need, especially
during these difficult times.
And unsurprisingly, Meghan McCain is not a proponent of this. Now, we're gonna get into
why this started, where the origins of this social media activism came from. But before
we do, let's just hear a little bit of the conversation between Whoopi Goldberg and Meghan
McCain on The View.
>> I mean, I want to say that any woman who wants to partake in it is 100% has my support,
do whatever you want. I am always extremely skeptical of clicktivism, in general. I actually
started my career blogging online. And I'm always skeptical of here, put a photo up,
put a dark space in your Instagram and we've solved all the problems of the world.
>> So, Ida she has a problem with clickivism and look to be fair, actually, I don't like
the performative stuff, right? I feel like sometimes people rely too much on performative
stuff on social media, rather than finding strategic ways to hold the system accountable
and change the system.
But with that said, this actually has been an enlightening thing for me because I'm learning
about femicide in Turkey. I'm learning about how women are being victimized in different
countries around the world. And then of course, there's the positive component of women in
your life trying to find ways to uplift you.
So I want to hear what you think about all this.
>> First of all, was she in brown face? What was going on with her?
>> I just think she was a little heavy handed with the blush. Just I don't know.
>> Just checking because it's well, I mean, I wanted to say what happened, Meghan, nobody
tagged you.
Nobody wanted you to post a picture of yourself? Usually the people who've been bitter about
the challenge is because somebody didn't post them. Do I care about femicide in Turkey?
100% absolutely. I advocate for women, daily, specifically women of color throughout the
world, not just the ones here in America.
What I wanted to say was this, if you think that us posting the pictures if you co-opted
it for the purpose of your vanity or whatever the reason that it is. I am just tired of
every time a woman's movement is in effect, it always comes under such criticism.
Imagine, just imagine for one minute, if we would've co-opted that girl-dad movement and
criticized men for celebrating themselves for being good fathers to their daughters
like they're supposed to be. Imagine if we were like, wow, look at you. You're a girl
dad. Good for you. You treat your daughter with respect and humanity.
You're supposed to get cheered on for that? We didn't do that. You know why? Cuz we were
honoring Kobe Bryant in the moment cuz that's where it originated. And we celebrated the
movement. Many women posting pictures of men saying, look, this is our girl dad. So when
women do this, I'm just tired of women being constantly policed.
It's easy for Meghan McCain not to be for a movement that's for Black Lives Matter,
or for anti-femicide, or for whatever it is. Because she lives a privileged life in a bubble.
You don't have to be uphold yourself daily because everything around you that we live
in a white supremacy driven country, all of the images are always in support of how you
look.
But when black and brown women took this challenge and started challenging other women, I challenged
people in my life who are not actresses, who have regular jobs, who are essential workers.
And it brought me great joy to see the pictures of them and them exalting themselves in a
moment where they feel low because they have to go out and work for not a living wage in
the middle of a pandemic.
And in the process, I learned about what happened to this one woman in Turkey and why this movement
was happening. It brought awareness to me and I was able to share that awareness that
story and this was my platform. And then other people started taking what I shared and sharing
it.
And then even if some people co-opted the movement, it was still effective. Because
now the people who follow me and the people who follow my friends know what is happening
in Turkey. And so for me, that is valuable. I don't care about the people whose intentions
are not good.
They're everywhere, you cannot rid of them. But the other thing that I was really bothered
by was women who were like, why is she posting a picture of her being sexy? Why are you worried
about hers? >> Who cares? Why are women allowed to post
pictures of themselves being sexy?
Who are you to police me in my moment and how I feel about myself? We need to stop doing
that kind of stuff. These men that you're trying to impress, are not going to do anything
to make your life better. So stop doing that stuff to other women.
It made me so mad. >> So I can't help myself, because you mentioned
that possibly Meghan McCain is salty about this because she wasn't invited to participate.
And she does comment on that. So let's take a look at the next clip.
>> I just think when you're talking about women's empowerment, as a conservative woman,
there's always a level of skepticism because we are never invited into circles, traditionally.
And the Women's March we were literally not invited to join and told to stay home if you're
pro-life. It ended up being the leaders of the Women's March had a strong ties to and
a lot of antisemitic and, in my opinion, extremely problematic and controversial views that wasn't
comfortable.
>> I just want to say one of the women had strong ties, not both of them, but go ahead.
>> Well you can watch the tape of me interviewing them on the show and make your own decision
for it. >> Yeah, I was there.
>> You were not there.
>> I was there. >> No, you weren't.
>> I was there, I was there. >> No, you weren't.
>> I was, I sat right there. I will get it for you, so you can see what I'm talking about.
>> Well this isn't really what this is about. >> We had both women on, but that's not the
point.
>> Well this is my point though, I had a problem with the Women's March, other people don't.
This is why this topic is ridiculous- >> Right.
>> Because again, conservative women just we don't have voices in places like this and
it's fine. >> Right, okay, well, here's my take for conservative
women if you want to join and put your picture up as well, there's nothing stopping anybody.
This is for all women. >> Yeah, look, I wholeheartedly agree with
Whoopi. There's no rule about this hashtag indicating that conservatives aren't allowed
that's maybe Meghan McCain specifically wasn't tagged to participate. But that's a Meghan
McCain problem. And I think the reasons for that are pretty obvious based on how she conducts
herself.
It's so uncomfortable to watch that show. You feel the guest at a thanksgiving dinner
with the family feuding with one another, fighting at the dinner table. And you're just
like, this is so uncomfortable. I want to get out of it right away, that's how I feel
when I'm watching the show.
>> She's smug too, when they think they like to call people who pride themselves in their
education to be smug. But that's the epitome of smug. You know what's funny is Tomi Lahren
is a conservative who was pro-choice, the way that she tried to make being a conservative
and pro-life synonymous.
When they didn't invite conservative women,they said, no, they didn't. They said, if you were
pro-life, then maybe you don't want to come to this march. But they did not say if you
were conservative you shouldn't come to this march. But I love the way that she does that,
the virtue signaling that comes from Megan McCain on a daily basis is so disgusting.
And it is so indicative of how small she really feels with all that privilege that she has.
It makes her feel like a hater, right? So it's always funny to me that she was hating
on this. This is my point, Ana, and I said it in my video, I'm not crazy about country
music.
But I don't harass Garth Brooks online and say your music is trash. You know what I don't
do, I don't listen to country music. But I don't go online and chastise people who like
country music. I just excuse myself from the room. So I don't understand why you're even
having this conversation on The View when they haven't arrested Breonna Taylor's murderer
and we don't-
>> Yes. >> Know what happened to Vanessa Guillen and
if you're really pro-woman, conservative woman, then why don't you lead the charge to get
these officers arrested. To find out what happened to Breonna Taylor and to find out
where Breasia Terrell is who is missing in Houston right now, ten years old.
Been missing for 19 days and we don't know where she is. That's what I wanna know is
when you gonna use your platform to actually make change instead of criticizing things
that you don't subscribe to. I don't follow Charlie Kirk. I don't, that's the thing that
I don't get it.