- [Crew] All right. (Jamieleigh exclaiming)
Rolling-
- (laughs) It's my mic right there.
He just went for it.
Felt like he went for my throat.
- [Crew] He might have been.
(bright modern music)
- Hey everyone, welcome back to another about us series.
I thought I was only gonna make one video,
but then you guys asked me so many questions.
So here we go.
Part two to the about us that's about me.
And I'm gonna try to film this entire thing with Jinx.
So good luck understanding any answers. (laughs)
Here we go. (exhaling) Okay.
- [Crew] Jamie's very organized today.
- Super organized. (Jinx vocalizes)
(crewman mimics the Jinx)
Okay, I'm just gonna go in order.
So let's do this.
What's your inspiration for your hair color?
Is it something you do as part of the show,
you and Dave do, or is it just for fun?
Yeah, I've been a lot of hair colors.
It's just for fun.
It's usually me spending too much time on Pinterest
seeing like, oh, that girl has really cool hair.
Let me see if I can do that. (laughs)
I've had a few fails.
- Bup, bup, bup.
(Jinx vocalizes) - Oh my gosh.
- Do you have a college degree
and do you need one to train birds professionally?
Thank you, Liv Regandan.
Are you stuck in my hair? Okay.
All right, this is not working.
What was the question? Do I have a degree?
No, I never went to college.
I really didn't like high school
so there was no way I was gonna sign up for more of that.
(Jamieleigh laughs awkwardly)
What is your favorite bird success story?
Oh, my first project bird, Storm.
I think he's my favorite success story
because I knew so little going in
that still afterwards, getting that bird to free fly.
I had no idea what I had just accomplished
until years later, and then I was like,
"Whoa, that was awesome."
Ooh, what is one experience with a bird or client
where you look back and think you could have handled
or done something differently?
Most of my interactions with humans,
I look back and think, "Why can't I be more like Dave?"
I would say a majority of them.
I tend to let just certain things get me really fired up
and passionate, and I don't have
that super nice sugar-coated delivery
that makes a majority of personalities
take the information in well.
I just have that blunt to the point
this is exactly what I mean
sort of way and it doesn't usually go super well.
So I would say majority
of interactions. (Jinx vocalizes)
If you could have adopted any
of your previous project birds, who would you choose?
Hands down, Lefty. It's my biggest regret.
I would've adopted Lefty. I wish we would've.
Yeah, it kind of like haunts me, to be honest.
What's your side of the story when you and Dave first met?
I was actually just looking at a scrapbook
that had this story in it because I kept everything.
So I had like brochures and tickets and all this stuff.
I'm a heavy scrapbooker.
And so back in the day, I used to do it for real physically.
Now I do yearly keepsake books for my daughter Capri
and so they're all on the computer.
And then I have them printed out at the end of the year.
So I do her birthday to her next birthday
in every single book.
(upbeat whimsical music)
So my story is I thought I was gonna marry
this a capella singer named Nathan,
and I went to all of his shows and he was performing
at the Coeur d'Alene fair.
And my friend Janelle was like, "Hey, do you wanna come?
My family goes every year."
My family was not into going to fairs,
so there was no chance they were gonna go.
So I went with my friend, Janelle.
We watched all of their shows, which was like three a day.
And in between their performances,
Dave came on the stage and I literally remember
my girlfriend, Janelle being like, "He is so hot.
He has to be taken."
(laughs) And so we didn't even bother crushing on him.
And so I went up afterwards after his show
and got a picture with him
and I think I was 14.
Dave was 17.
And we were pretty much complete strangers.
That's all I had seen of him.
And then the following year, I was checking out colleges
and my parents were basically like,
you need to go and see if you're actually gonna go to this,
check it out, see it in person, all that stuff.
So we planned a time to go and Dave was performing indoors
and I was like, "Hey, I saw this guy at the fair.
We should go check it out."
So we went to that show and my parents got to see him.
He didn't come out after the show
so they didn't get to meet him or anything.
And then the following year,
he was performing in Spokane, which was his hometown,
and I had driven my friend, Janelle,
the one from the fair an hour and a half
to go see Civilized Animal,
which was an underground band at the time.
And it was her favorite band.
And when we got there, the show was canceled.
There was no warning, no nothing.
They just like had to call it and cancel the show.
We were super bummed. We were walking back to my car.
We couldn't believe it. We'd driven an hour and a half.
And she saw a billboard that said, Dave Womach,
performing dah, dah, dah, dah.
It was that night, and it started in 15 minutes
and she was like, "Just take me to that instead.
Let's go, it's like a few roads from here."
So I was like, "Okay."
So we ran and made it to that show.
Afterwards, I got a photo with him.
Again, still kind of strangers.
And then after that, at some point,
I loved underground bands.
So I went to a lot of bands
that most people hadn't heard of.
I kept a little GeoCities website
with a list of all the bands I'd seen (laughs)
and all the entertainers I'd seen
just to kind of keep track for if they ever hit it big
and I'm like, "Oh, I saw them before they were big."
So yeah, I kept this little website
and I had a really goofy photo of myself on it.
And Dave found it because I had listed him
under like other types of entertainers that I had seen.
And he found my website, just wrote me, asked me out,
but said he wasn't looking for anything serious.
So yeah, we went out
and I think three months later we were engaged.
What was it about birds that gave you that feeling
where you realized in your heart,
you were a bird person and were passionate about
and dedicated to helping these animals?
Was there a specific moment or experience?
Yes.
So Dave, in my mind, was always a professional.
Like he was so amazing with birds and the clients.
I was very uncomfortable with both in the very beginning
'cause I knew nothing.
And so I remember it was working with our client Sherry
and Dave was working with her
with her harlequin macaw and she had a bunch of other birds
and Storm was there, that Amazon.
And he brought Storm home
just in an effort to like work with him
because what really got us sometimes was just seeing,
we would have certain clients
where we'd be working with specific birds,
but we'd see other birds and be like,
"What about that one?"
And they'd be like, "No, no, no, but he's not trainable.
He's really old. He's been like this for years.
He's set in his ways. He won't change.
Nobody can touch him. He's too aggressive."
Like whatever the excuse was,
that bird was deemed untrainable.
And that interested me 'cause it was like, "Well, why?"
And what made so many people just get
to the point of giving up and not trying?
Like maybe there's something you can try
that will get through to that bird.
And so Storm and like getting through to him
and consulting other trainers
'cause I was consulting different types of trainers
that work with different types of animals
to come and like check on me
and make sure that I was doing things properly
was really the turning point for me.
It was kind of like we don't need to just focus on the birds
that other people wanna train.
We should be focusing on the birds
that people think are not trainable.
And that was really it for me.
And putting it public out there to be openly judged
by people on what was working and what was not working.
I mean, I was not amazing at it.
Like I got stuck on the stairs by Storm.
He trapped me on the stairs and I would call Dave
and be like, "When you come home, (laughs)
look out, I'm on the stairs.
I can't come down. Storm's mad at me."
Like there were really embarrassingly,
just horrible moments where I didn't know what I was doing
and I would like set him off wrong
and I didn't know how that was happening
or how to like decrease all of that.
And Dave would of course laugh at me,
but then he was also there to help me along
and offer me instructions and ideas and stuff.
So I think honestly it was my very first project bird
that brought it all to the surface for me of like,
if he's workable at 45 years old
on a hamburger-based diet,
you should be able to work with any other bird
that's sitting in the corner
and there's just not an adequate reason for that.
You're back. Love you. (lips smacking)
I love you.
Come kiss? (Jinx vocalizing)
What's your nickname?
What's your nickname? (Jinx vocalizing)
Yeah, that was such a sweet one.
Do you wanna do our handshake?
(Jamieleigh trilling) (Jinx vocalizing)
(laughs) Good job.
Do you wanna do your singing?
(Jinx vocalizing on pitch) Good boy.
(Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Ba, ba, ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Good boy. What's so funny? (Jinx vocalizing)
(laughs) What's so funny?
Jinxy. Hey, what's so funny?
(Jinx vocalizing) Good boy.
You need to get your laugh longer
'cause it's gotten really short.
How about this one?
(Jinx vocalizing)
It's Dave's least favorite.
Ba, ba, ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Good boy. You want down?
(Jinx vocalizing)
(laughs) Is that a yes or a no?
Would you ever get other animals while having birds?
No, I just don't feel like a lot of other animals
are compatible with birds and I'm just kind of over trying.
How was your experience having a newborn baby Capri
to take care of along with many birds?
So many pets get rehomed when babies come along,
so I was wondering how you managed those first few months.
I think for us, a lot of it comes
from not having the birds 100% in our space
because I think a lot of it is the stress
of having a newborn baby,
maybe not having things down pat with your birds
and then worrying about your bird constantly waking up
and making your baby mad or upset or crying.
So we just kind of eliminated those variables
by having birds in different sections.
Oh my gosh. You want your protein bar so bad.
Okay, Jinxy, I have stuff we can do.
We can do with stuff.
Ba ba ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Good job. Come kiss?
(Jinx vocalizing)
Good boy. Stop looking at protein bar.
Where do you see yourself in BirdTricks in five years,
and what goals do you and Dave have as a couple?
Dave, what goals do we have?
One of the goals that I recently set, I just love you.
One of the goals I recently set last year,
the year before was to take
one amazing family vacation every year.
Like really save up, plan for it,
let the family be involved.
Last year we did Africa,
which is something that we've talked about forever,
that everybody was like,
"Don't do it until your daughter's older
and can actually remember and enjoy it."
We've even gone so far as to like ask Capri
where she wants to go.
She picked Japan.
And so for now I'm getting us these Sakura Co boxes
where it's all these items from Japan
so that she can kind of get to know the culture
a little bit better in preparation of going.
So that's been one of my goals.
I don't know if it's necessarily Dave's,
but I think it's fulfilled something
that he's always wanted for our family as well.
And as far as BirdTricks,
I would love to have like a big,
(laughs) you just want attention, stop ignoring me.
I would love to have a much bigger operation
and be able to reach more people.
We really struggle reaching more international clients.
We struggle expanding everything
as much as we would like to.
So I would hope that those struggles are kind of over
(laughs) at five years, but maybe that's not a good thing.
Maybe it's a good thing to struggle
with trying to meet demand.
So who knows?
Some of these are really difficult. Oh my gosh.
Okay, this person said, "I see a lot of bird questions,
but I really wanna know your skin care routine.
Your skin looks so great."
Well, I hope you feel that way about this video,
'cause I'm not actually wearing any makeup.
Ha ha ha. Except for mascara,
I try not to wear a lot of makeup
because when we don't have to travel and do shows and stuff,
like that's a lot of makeup for the shows and everything.
So anytime I don't have to wear it,
oh my gosh, we can't get content.
I'm pretty stoked about it. So I try not to wear it.
I use like this really nice oil
that comes from a chick that is actually local,
that I found at a farmer's market and it feels amazing.
And that's all I'm wearing.
And then I bought this like light thing
to actually start using on my skin
because I felt like I couldn't get my skin really clear.
So it's a blue light and I use that on my skin now,
but I've only used it for like the last five days
or something like that.
So it's pretty new.
(lips smacking) I just love you.
Love your face. I wanna squish it. (lips smacking)
If you had to stop training birds
and select another living creature to train,
what creature would you choose?
Oh no. And I can't choose birds?
I don't think I'd really be good with anything else.
What animal do you guys think I'd be capable of training?
I think I might not be flattered by your answers,
(laughs) but I don't know.
What else should I train?
I know that all animals are trainable,
I just don't know that I'm compatible with all animals
and their type of training.
You know what I mean?
Like I'm not strong enough to hold back a dog.
(bright whimsical music continues)
So yeah. (laughs)
Does Capri ever ask to have a sibling?
She asks to adopt her friends.
What steps, (speaking in gibberish)
what steps did you take to become a bird trainer
and what steps could I take?
Okay, so here's my thing with this
because I know that there's a lot of questions
about like how I got into bird training
and what makes me a professional
and what makes anyone a professional and blah, blah, blah.
I was taught by the birds.
That is my education.
So project birds really taught me so much.
And although I use technically
kind of the same training methods
with all my project birds, the application
of those training methods is different based
on how the bird responds to those training methods.
I hope that makes sense.
And through my experiences working with birds
is how I've gained the knowledge.
So I know that birds respond differently
to different things, so there's no one size fits all.
I also know that species
have their little quirks about them.
Different species have their quirks like you.
And so that kind of teaches you a lot
where you go in with a little bit of understanding of like,
I most likely will run into these scenarios based
on the characteristics of that species.
It's not something that you're married to as fact,
but it's something that's kind of in the back of your mind
of like, okay, given my experiences,
thanks for waiting till I set you down.
He's like ready to come back up.
So I really feel like the animals are the best teachers
and that's where you gain your experience.
So donating your time to a sanctuary or a rescue
where you can work with birds, fostering birds.
He wants me to let him step up so badly.
I really think that birds are the best teachers.
Dave mentioned he does 75 Hard
and I'm curious if you also do 75 Hard with him or not.
(laughs) She said, "My boyfriend
and I decided to do the program.
We are currently on day three and oh my God
is a gallon of water hard to get through." (laughs)
No, no to 75 Hard.
What talks me out of 75 Hard is having to work out outside.
I am such a wuss. I'm like, "No, I'm too cold.
I'm too uncomfortable. I'm gonna slip and fall on the ice."
Whatever it is. I'm like, "No."
Unless Dave invites me on a bike ride
that's actually a trick just to get me to cycle.
How many miles was that? 12?
Yeah, no. So I don't do 75 Hard.
My workout routine is Mondays and Wednesdays
I do 45 minutes of cardio kickboxing.
Oh my gosh.
Tuesdays and Fridays,
I do 45 minutes of step
and 45 minutes of strength training.
And then Thursdays, I do strength interval training,
and Saturdays, I usually try to do an hour of cycling.
I don't always make it on Saturdays
'cause we sometimes have plans,
but cycling feels so hard to me.
So that's my workout routine.
And I try to drink a lot of water,
but so far I've had a matcha latte this morning.
So nailing it.
Okay, I'm gonna answer three more questions
because there's so, so many
and I feel like I could do this forever.
So who is my favorite bird and why?
It's you but you're being a psycho.
Oh my gosh, bub.
If you could own any bird you do not already have
what breed or variety would it be.
Okay, so I don't wanna own it,
but I really wanna work with a Major Mitchell cockatoo
like, really, really bad.
So bad.
How do you feel about both Dave and Capri skydiving?
I feel totally okay 'cause it's not me. (laughs)
Be honest, what really won you over Dave or the birds?
Ha ha ha, you guys, he had an umbrella cockatoo
when I met him.
I was legitimately scared of the birds.
Dave definitely won me over and he still does.
Even if you compete with him,
you're here because of Dave.
So Dave.
I was just reading them because they're so interesting.
There's so many,
I'm so sorry that I couldn't get to all
of your guys' questions.
On my community tab, rude,
you guys asked over like a hundred questions.
And so far what I was reading,
like they weren't even repeats,
so I don't even know how to handle it all.
So thank you guys so much for participating.
Thank you for asking your questions.
Thank you for ba, ba, ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
(laughs) Thank you for ba ba.
(Jinx vocalizing on pitch) (Jamieleigh laughs)
You sound like you're underwater.
Ba, ba, ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Really let that voice out, bubs.
Ba, ba, ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
(laughs) It's not happening.
So yeah, thank you guys for participating,
asking these questions, wondering this stuff about me.
If you like videos like this
that are purely, just entertaining,
let me know in the comments.
We're happy to make more entertaining content
where you guys can feel like you get to know us better.
Don't forget to like and subscribe if you haven't already
and we will see you guys in the next bird video.
Ba ba ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Oh, there you go.
Ba ba ba. (Jinx vocalizing on pitch)
Whoa, we'll just keep it off pitch.
That sounds good. (laughs)
Do a little flight.
Good boy, bub. Good boy, bub.
Bye, bye. Ba, ba, ba.
(Jinx vocalizing)
(Jamieleigh laughing)
(bright whimsical music)