AND WE'LL COME BACK LIVELY WITH
GOING THE PRESIDENT HAS TO SAY.
THANK YOU AND OF COURSE OUR
THANKS TO KEIR AND RICHARD ANG
AAL.
JOINING US IS FORMER AMBASSADOR
TO UKRAINE AND FORMER PRESS
SECRETARY TO PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY.
FIRST TO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY
OPTIMISM COMING OUT OF THESE
TALKS, THE FIRST TALKS YOU'VE
SEEN IN TWO WEEKS AND HELD UNDER
SUCH SUSPICION, MUTUAL SUSPICION
THE UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS WERE
TOLD DON'T EAT, DON'T DRINK,
DON'T SHAKE HANDS WITH THESE
PEOPLE BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS WITH
OTHERS WHO GOT ILL AFTER SOME
CONTACTS?
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND
FOR THIS GREAT QUESTION.
ACTUALLY, I AM OPTIMISTIC THESE
DAYS.
BUT I'M OPTIMISTIC, NOT ONLY
BECAUSE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN LOCKED IN
[ INAUDIBLE ] IF YOU ARE TO BE
STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFEND OUR LAND
AND ACTUALLY TO MAKE RUSSIA
RETREAT, TO MAKE RUSSIA LOSE IN
MANY REGIONS.
BECAUSE IF RUSSIA HAS
JUSTIFICATION OF LOSING, IT DOES
MEAN IT'S TRUE.
WE'RE PRETTY AWARE UKRAINE IS
NEGOTIATING WITH A TERRORIST
COUNTRY.
AND IT MEANS THERE IS NO TRUST.
ALSO RUSSIA HAS KILLED THOUSANDS
OF UKRAINIANS IN RECENT MONTHS
AND THIS MEANS DOESN'T LOOK
NATURAL HERE.
DIPLOMACY IS PRETTY NEW.
BUT THE ONLY FORM OF
NEGOTIATIONS THAT IS CONTINUING
RIGHT NOW AND THAT CAN BRING
RESULTS.
RUSSIA TOLD TODAY THERE IS A
HOPE ALREADY AND LOOKS LIKE
TRUTH WILL HOLD.
RUSSIAN PRESIDENT CAN MEET
VLADIMIR ZELENSKYY AND THEY
START ACCEPTING OUR CONDITIONS
FOR THE REASON THAT THEY'RE
REALLY LOSING IN MANY A REGIONS.
IT'S REALLY BAD TO TRUST RUSSIA.
IT'S REALLY OUTRAGEOUS TO TRUST
RUSSIA THESE DAYS.
BECAUSE MY REGION IS BEING
BOMBED.
MY AUNT AND MY MOM ARE SITTING
IN THE SHELTERS FOR ALL THE DAY
TODAY.
THE HOUSES OF MY GRANNIES ARE
FULLY BALM ABED IN THE RECENT
DAYS.
AND THE VILLAGE WHERE THEY USED
TO LIVE IS TAKEN BY RUSSIANS.
YOU MENTIONED OTHER CITIES THAT
HAVE BEEN BOMBED.
SO, RUSSIA IS JUST LOSING AND
THAT'S WHY RUSSIA TRIES TO SHOW
THAT THEY'RE GOING FORWARD TO
THE CONDITIONS.
BUT RUSSIA DOESN'T UNDERSTAND
ANY OTHER DIALECT AND UKRAINE
WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO SHOW WE'RE A
STRONG, INDEPENDENT COUNTRY AND
WE WILL BE FIGHTING TO THE VERY
END.
>> CERTAINLY THE RESPONSE BY THE
UKRAINIAN CIVILIANS, THE
MILITARY, THE LEADER, OF COURSE,
IN PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY HAS BEEN
REMARKABLE.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT RUSSIA
SEEMS TO BE, FOR ALL OF ITS
RESOURCES, AND WE SHOULDN'T
OVERLOOK THOSE AND THE SHIPS AT
SEA, THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF
CAPACITY FROM THE AIR AND
ARTILLERY.
BUT THEY'RE ON THEIR BACK HEELS.
>> THEY ARE, ANDREA.
THEY'RE DEFINITELY ON THEIR BACK
HEELS.
THEY HAVE LEARNED WHAT JULIA
JUST SAID.
THAT IS UKRAINIANS WILL FIGHT.
THEY'LL FIGHT FIERCELY.
THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR THEIR LAND,
THEIR TERRITORY, THEIR
INDEPENDENCE, THEIR FREEDOM.
THEY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE THE
LIVE UNDER THE RUSSIANS OR
SOVIETS.
THEY KNOW THIS.
THEY CAN LOOK TO SEE HOW THEY'RE
LIVING, HOW THEIR UKRAINIAN
COMPATRIOTS ARE LIVING IN DONBAS
OR CRIMEA OR WHERE THE RUSSIANS
ARE IN CONTROL.
SO, THE YOU YANIANS ARE FIGHTING
HARD FOR THEIR OWN LAND.
THEY'LL FIGHT FIERCELY AND
THEY'RE HAVING SOME REAL SUCCESS
AROUND KYIV.
>> WELL, LET ME ALSO ASK YOU
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK
THE PRESIDENT SHOULD STICK TO
HIS GUNS ABOUT WHAT HE SAID ON
SATURDAY NIGHT AND WALK BACK THE
WALK BACK AND SAY HE HAS NO
APOLOGIES OR WHAT THE FALLOUT IS
FROM THAT, AMBASSADOR TAYLOR,
BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE PHONE
TODAY WITH THE BRITS AND THE
FRENCH, MACRON AND THERE WASN'T
JUST MACRON.
THERE WERE OTHER ALLIES WHO
CRITICIZED IT.
>> SO,AND ARE ANDREA, MY SENSE I
PRESIDENT, AND HE SAID THIS.
NO CHANGE IN POLICY.
THERE'S NOT A U.S. POLICY.
PRESIDENT BIDEN NEVER SAID
REGIME CHANGE.
THE LANGUAGE THAT HE USED IN
WARSAW WAS REALLY A IMPORTANT.
AND IT'S NOT THOSE NINE WORDS
THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I LISTENED TO WHAT HE SAID IN
WARSAW WHERE HE SAID THAT THE
WEST IS -- THE WEST IS ENGAGED
IN A GREAT BATTLE FOR FREEDOM
WITH UKRAINE AND ITS PEOPLE ON
THE FRONTLINES.
THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.
UKRAINE'S ON THE FRONTLINES.
WE NEED SUPPORT THEM.
PRESIDENT BIDEN ALSO SAID THAT
RUSSIA WOULD NOT WIN IN UKRAINE.
UKRAINE WILL WIN THIS BATTLE.
AND THAT NEEDS TO BE THE FOLKS
OF THE ALLIANCE, THAT NEEDS TO
BE THE FOLKS OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE, OF -- THE UKRAINIANS ARE
FIGHTING OUR BATTLE.
WE NEED SUPPORT THEM AND THAT'S
WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY ON
SATURDAY.
AND HE WAS SAYING THAT -- HE
MADE A MORAL STATEMENT.
A MORAL STATEMENT ABOUT
PRESIDENT PUTIN.
IT WAS NOT A POLICY CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AMBASSADOR
TAYLOR.
THANK YOU AS ALWAYS, JULIA.