the colonial pipeline back up and
running but americans are still
lining up for gasoline so maybe it's a
good time to
revisit all of our energy infrastructure
like the keystone xl pipeline
it's really uh an apples and oranges
when we talk about
the consequences of a cyber attack on uh
one pipeline uh versus the idea of uh
introducing another one which the
president kept his promise that that
uh he didn't think that was a good
policy and he acted to keep his promise
when he took office
here now mick mulvaney former chief of
staff
to president trump isn't it
just your reaction to that isn't it just
best in terms of our energy
infrastructure to keep
all our options open sure
digging thanks for having me last time i
checked i think talking about pipeline a
and pipeline b
is pretty much as close to apples to
apples as you can possibly get
what i think you're seeing is the
democrats are struggling with
what they mean by infrastructure what
they really mean is stuff they like
and they don't like pipelines um they
never have
um i don't understand why they don't
think infrastructure includes
pipelines um the reason they got rid of
the capital of the uh
keystone pipeline by the way had nothing
to do with infrastructure everything to
do with their
uh promises to the environmental lobby
we could have had
a a an infrastructure bill in this
country three years ago with president
trump
in office if the democrats had agreed to
change the environmental laws the
problem right now
is that even if you passed a bill today
roads and bridges with that money
wouldn't get billed for five six
sometimes every ten year even ten years
so what you're hearing seeing the
democrats do is twist in the wind
because they don't really like
infrastructure they just like to tell
people they're doing infrastructure
right although the secretary of energy
granholm kind of slipped up
and said pipe is the best way but she
also said well if you were driving an
electric car
you didn't have a gasoline shortage
problem
i digress so dark side the hacking group
linked to the colonial pipeline attack
says that it's closing
it's unclear why that is if it's true or
not
but i i wanted to pose this question to
you
were chief of staff under president
donald trump dealing with russia if this
happened and president trump immediately
came out and said
uh it came this hack came from within
russia
but putin had nothing to do with the
hack
what would the reaction be to that which
is what biden did
the exact which exactly what you expect
right it's sort of a rhetorical question
any time anything happened that touched
on russia
most folks in the media especially in
other networks just assumed it was the
president cahoots with putin it was it
was really frustrating to have to deal
with that because what i think the
democrats are learning
firsthand is this stuff is really hard
cyber security is really hard and we
don't really
do it very well when you do come out and
say well putin wasn't involved maybe
that's right maybe it's wrong i hope it
is right by the way
but your point is is well made which is
that everybody knows in this business
if most of the media didn't have a
double standard they wouldn't have any
standards all
and and they just need to realize that
let's let's hope the byte administration
is doing everything they can they had a
halfway decent
executive order come out in the last 48
hours and i thought did some good things
this stuff is hard let's hope they're
doing it right but their goal
in starting day one with canceling the
keystone xl pipeline
after every president since richard
nixon talked about energy independence
their goal is to have us bow down
to nations that hate us as they aim to
transition away
from fossil fuels which biden promised
in that debate with president trump that
we're going to transition away from the
oil industry
they have taken made pretty good strides
in doing that but at the same time
they're handing more power to iran
and russia so where does that leave us
even a year from now when it comes to
solar power they're giving a lot of the
cards to china who we heard this week
might be making solar panels with forced
labor
um but there's another possibility here
which is not that the democrats want us
to bow down to our enemies
as much as they just don't like economic
growth they don't like development they
don't like
a healthy american economy that sounds
sort of foolish to say but let me
let me see if i can make any sense of it
which is to say they're so beholden to
their environmental lobby their
environmental friends the extreme left
wing the tree huggers of the party
that they have to be against the
automobile they have to be against
pipelines they have to be against
roads keep in mind even if they spend
this money on roads and bridges like
they say they want to it will be five
six maybe ten years before those things
get built if you really wanted to build
things you would have let donald trump
do it you would have said okay let's
let's do a bipartisan deal on uh on
infrastructure
let's change the environmental rules
that we can still protect the
environment but build things relatively
quickly
we had the chance to do that the
democrats had no interest in doing it
then
i really don't think they have much
interest in doing real infrastructure
now
and that's a shame because the country
really does need it i've said it before
president biden is governing for greta
thunderberg
how dare him mick mulvaney good to see
thank you for being here have a terrific
weekend