>> Bill: THANK YOU, CATHERINE.
>> Sandra: FOR MORE ON THE
FALLOUT FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL
WILLIAM BARR'S TESTIMONY
EARLIER THIS WEEK LET'S BRING
IN CHRIS WALLACE ANCHOR OF "FOX
NEWS SUNDAY".
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
SO WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT YOU
HAVE SEEN SO FAR AS FAR AS THE
REACTION TO THE A.G.'S
TESTIMONY EARLIER THIS WEEK AND
AHEAD OF THE RELEASE OF THE
REDACTED REPORT POSSIBLY NEXT
WEEK?
>> LOOK, THIS IS HIGHLY CHARGED.
WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE
HIGHLY CHARGED POLITICALLY.
DEMOCRATS ARE UPSET THAT THE
MUELLER REPORT DOESN'T SEEM TO
HAVE FOUND MORE DIRT, MORE
EVIDENCE OF CRIMINALITY OR AT
LEAST BAD BEHAVIOR BY THE
PRESIDENT.
WE KNOW THAT FROM MR. BARR'S
BOTTOM LINE CONCLUSIONS THAT HE
GAVE WHEN HE FIRST RECEIVED THE
REPORT.
THE WORD SPY IS CHARGED.
AND I THINK THAT BARR REALIZED
THAT BECAUSE AT THE END OF HIS
CONGRESSIONAL HEARING HE SAID
LOOK AFTER REVIEWING ALL AS HE
PUT IT THE COLLOQUYS I HAVE HAD
WITH VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE
SENATE MAYBE I SHOULD SAY
SURVEILLANCE AND WHETHER OR NOT
IT WAS PROPER OR NOT.
THERE IS AN ABSOLUTELY
LEGITIMATE QUESTION, AND
LEGITIMATE INVESTIGATION IS
ALREADY GOING ON BY THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL, AS TO
WHETHER OR NOT THE SURVEILLANCE
OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, MEMBERS
OF THAT CAMPAIGN, WAS
LEGITIMATE, WAS BASED ON
REASONABLE CONCERNS.
THE USE OF THE WORD SPY, THAT
WAS CHARGED.
THINK IF YOU WERE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
SURVEILLING ORGANIZED CRIME
FIGURES, WOULD YOU CALL THAT
SPYING?
YOU WOULD CALL IT SURVEILLANCE.
AND AS MUCH AS BARR IS SAYING
-- IF I MAY JUST FINISH.
INASMUCH AS BARR IS SAYING I'LL
INVESTIGATE WHETHER IT WAS
LEGITIMATE SURVEILLANCE OR NOT.
MAYBE USE OF THE WORD SPY HE
GOT AHEAD OF HIMSELF.
>> Sandra: WE ASKED SENATOR
KENNEDY ABOUT THAT AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME
DIFFERING BETWEEN USING THE
WORD SPYING VERSUS SURVEILLANCE.
SOME AGREE IT IS THE SAME THING.
ROD ROSENSTEIN INTERESTING TO
SEE HIM COME TO THE DEFENSE OF
WILLIAM BARR IN THIS WAY.
DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL
REBUTTER DEMOCRATS' SUGGESTIONS
IN THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"
THIS WILLIAM BARR IS TRYING TO
MISS LEAD.
HERE HE SAYS HE IS BEING AS
FORTHCOMING AS HE CAN.
SO THIS NOTION THAT HE IS
TRYING TO MISLEAD PEOPLE I
THINK IS JUST COMPLETELY
BIZARRE.
BUT THAT'S NOT STOPPING
DEMOCRATS FROM QUESTIONING
BARR'S CREDIBILITY.
>> NO.
AGAIN, THIS GETS BACK TO THE
EXTREME POLITICS OF THIS WHOLE
SITUATION.
I REMEMBER WE DID A FOX NEWS
POLL JUST BEFORE THE MUELLER
REPORT WAS EVEN RELEASED AND AT
THE TIME I THINK IT WAS 70%
BASICALLY SAID WE DON'T CARE
WHAT IT SAYS.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE OUR
MIND.
THAT WAS CONSERVATIVES WHO WERE
DEFENDING THE PRESIDENT SAYING
WHATEVER MUELLER FOUND.
WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE
GOING TO FIND.
IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THEIR MIND
AND LIBERALS SAYING THE SAME
THING.
IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THEIR MIND.
AS I POINTED OUT, A LOT OF
DEMOCRATS ARE UPSET WITH WHAT
BILL BARR -- WE DON'T KNOW THE
MUELLER REPORT.
ALL WE KNOW AS IT HAS BEEN
INTERPRETED BY BILL BARR.
THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT THAT AND
ALL I WOULD SAY TO ROD
ROSENSTEIN, WHO I THINK
UNDERSTANDS IT HIMSELF, IS
WELCOME TO THE POLITICAL WORLD
WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN
SET OF FACTS AND IF YOU DON'T
LIKE THE OTHER SIDE'S SET OF
FACTS YOU'LL FIND FAULT WITH
THEM AND RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THEIR CREDIBILITY.
>> Sandra: THAT BEING SAID
LET'S TALK 2020.
THIS MORNING "POLITICO"
BUTTIGIEG BUSTS OUT IN IOWA.
POLLING AMONG SUPPORT FROM
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS IN IOWA.
BIDEN ALTHOUGH NOT FORMALLY IN
THE RACE STILL LEADS THE PACK
27%.
SANDERS 16%.
BUTTIGIEG 9%, THIRD FOR
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS IN IOWA.
NOTABLY ABSENT THERE IS BETO
O'ROURKE AND THERE IS THIS
PIECE IN THE "WASHINGTON POST"
THIS MORNING HOW BUTTIGIEG
STOLE BETO'S MOJO.
IN THAT PIECE THEY SAY
BUTTIGIEG MANIA ISN'T A THING.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT IS A
MOUTHFUL BUT HE IS APPEALING
NOT FOR BEING LARGER THAN LIFE
BUT REGULAR SIZE.
REFRESHING IN AN AREA WHERE
BUTTIGIEG POINTED OUT ONE
NOMINEE IN THE LAST
PRESIDENTIAL PUT I'M WITH HER
ON CAMPAIGN BUTTONS AND THE
OTHER WAS DONALD TRUMP.
SO BUTTIGIEG SURGING IN IOWA
SUDDENLY.
>> I HAVE TO SAY I'M PROUD.
I THINK YOU AND I AND A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED TO SAY HIS
NAME PROPERLY.
IT TOOK A WHILE FOR ALL OF US.
HE IS A REALLY INTRIGUING
FIGURE AND I DON'T MAKE MUCH OF
THE BIDEN NUMBER.
A LOT OF THAT IS VERY
INTERESTING.
CAME OUT IN ONE OF THOSE POLLS.
HE IS ALSO THIRD IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AS WELL AS IOWA.
24% OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHO BUTTIGIEG IS AND I THINK A
FULL 50% HAVE NO OPINION.
HE IS ONLY PLAYING IN A
UNIVERSE OF 50% OF THE
ELECTORATE AS OPPOSED TO BERNIE
SANDERS AND JOE BIDEN WHO HAVE
100% NAME RECOGNITION.
MY GUESS IS 99% PEOPLE HAVE AN
OPINION ABOUT THEM ONE WAY OR
ANOTHER.
BUTTIGIEG STILL LARGELY UNKNOWN
OUTSIDE OF POLITICAL JUNKIES
HAS MADE AN IMPRESSION.
HE IS A VERY IMPRESSIVE GUY.
A RHODES SCHOLAR.
TOOK A LEAVE OF ABSENCE AT THE
MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA TO
SERVE IN AFGHANISTAN.
HE IS SMART AS THE DICKENS.
HE HAS SOME ISSUES.
HE IS 37 YEARS OLD.
ONLY BEEN THE MAYOR OF A SMALL
TOWN OF 100,000 PEOPLE.
AS I SAY SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
BUT IT CERTAINLY IS TRUE THAT
HE IS THE BRIGHT SHINY OBJECT
ON THE HORIZON AND NO QUESTION
THAT HE HAS STOLEN THE THUNDER
OF BETO O'ROURKE BECAUSE
FRANKLY, THERE IS MORE
SUBSTANCE THERE.
HE ACTUALLY HAS -- YOU CAN LIKE
THEM OR DISLIKE THEM BUT HE HAS
INTERESTING, REFRESHING IDEAS
AND THERE IS SOME SUBSTANCE
THERE.
NOT JUST ALL STYLE AND SIZZLE.
SO HE IS A REAL FACTOR.
WHETHER HE CAN CONTINUE.
HE HAS HAD A GREAT INTRODUCTION.
WHETHER HE CAN CONTINUE TO
BUILD ON THAT IS GOING TO BE
THE BIG CHALLENGE FOR HIM.
>> Sandra: WE WILL SEE PROBABLY
CONVERSATION A LOT LIKE THIS
COMING UP ON "FOX NEWS SUNDAY"