WITH US IS JULIE BANDERAS AND
ALSO JOINING US OUR
SHANNON BREAM AND JUAN WILLIAMS.
PRESIDENT BIDEN MARKING
TRANSGENDER DAY OF VISIBILITY.
HE ANNOUNCED A SLEW OF NEW
MEASURES AIMED AT SUPPORTING
TRANS AMERICANS AND ATTACKED
G.O.P. LAWMAKERS PROPOSING WHAT
HE DESCRIBED AS ANTI-TRANSGENDER
LEGISLATION.
THAT INCLUDES FLORIDA’S PARENTAL
RIGHTS BILL.
WATCH.
>> WE KNOW IT’S HARD WHEN THERE
ARE THOSE OUT THERE WHO DON’T
SEE YOU AND DON’T RESPECT YOU.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONSLAUGHT OF
ANTI-TRANSGENDER STATE LAWS,
ATTACKING YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES,
ARE SIMPLY WRONG.
THIS ADMINISTRATION IS STANDING
UP FOR YOU AGAINST ALL THESE
HATEFUL BILLS.
>> Kayleigh: YOU KNOW, EMILY,
THE FACT THAT THERE ARE RATIONAL
AMERICANS IN THE COUNTRY WHO SAY
WE DON’T WANT KINDERGARTNERS
THROUGH THIRD GRADE LEARNING
ABOUT GENDER IDENTITY,
SEXUALITY, WHEN THEY ARE IN
KINDERGARTEN, DOES THAT MEAN AS
THE PRESIDENT JUST DESCRIBES
THAT THEY DO NOT RESPECT TRANS
INDIVIDUALS IF THEY DON’T SEE
TRANS INDIVIDUALS?
I DON’T THINK THE TWO ARE
MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
>> Emily: I AGREE WITH YOU BUT
UNFORTUNATELY OUR PRESIDENT
DOESN’T, KAYLEIGH.
OUR PRESIDENT SEES EVERYTHING
THROUGH THE LENS OF A BINARY
CHOICE OF BLACK OR WHITE, GOOD
AND EVIL, AND EVERYTHING OUT OF
THE THOUGHTFUL PROTECTION OF
PARENTAL RIGHTS, A THOUGHTFUL
DISCOURSE, FREEDOMS AND
LIBERTIES, AND THE CHOICE TO
RENEW YOUR CHILD AS YOU SEE FIT,
CHOICES AND EDUCATION IN A WAY
THAT YOU KNOW IS BEST FOR YOU
AND YOUR FAMILY, IT IS SOMEHOW
SEEN AS POISONOUS TO THE LEFT
AND IT’S ALSO SEEN AS ANTIGAY.
THE PROBLEM WITH THIS NARRATIVE
IS THE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT
CONTINUE TO PARE IT IT AND BUY
IT.
EXAMPLE SITE ON THE WEST COAST
WHERE I’M FROM WHERE PEOPLE
SIMPLY PARROT THAT IS
ANTI-"YOUR WORLD WITH NEIL CAVUT
O." WHEN YOU SEE THAT IT
RESERVES TO MY PRISONERS
PARENTAL RIGHTS AND CHOICE, TO
SIMPLY BE CHILDREN, THAT’S WHY
THOSE WHO READ THE BILL
SUPPORTED.
AND WE ARE SEEING THAT REFLECTED
IN THE POLLS OF THOSE WHO ARE
PROPONENTS OF THAT FLORIDA BILL
IN PARTICULAR.
THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHAT THEY
CONTINUE TO DO IS MONITORED TO
ENSURE THERE ARE NO CIVIL RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS IN KEEPING WITH,
AGAIN, THAT FALSE NARRATIVE THEY
ARE PEDDLING ABOUT THIS BINARY
GOOD SLASH EVIL CHOICE. >> Kayleigh:
JUAN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUNG
CHILDREN WHO I BELIEVE SHOULD BE
TAUGHT THAT THEY ARE LOVED AND
RESPECTED AND UNIQUE, BUT THERE’
IN THE CLASSROOM AT THAT AGE FOR
LEARNING ABOUT THESE VERY
COMPLEX CONCEPTS.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A WINNING
MESSAGE FOR DEMOCRATS GOING INTO
THE MIDTERMS?
>> Juan: NO.
I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY
POLITICIAN IN AMERICA WHO THINKS
THAT STANDING UP FOR TRANSGENDER
RIGHTS IS GOING TO BOOST THEIR
APPROVAL, KAYLEIGH.
I THINK JOE BIDEN KNOWS THAT.
IT’S NOT THE CASE FOR REPUBLICAN
OR DEMOCRAT, AND WE HAVE SEEN
SOME REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS TRY TO
PUSH BACK ON THIS.
EVERYBODY KNOWS POLITICALLY
THIS ISN’T GOING TO WORK.
BUT I MUST TELL YOU, IT FEELS TO
ME A LITTLE BIT LIKE
"BACK TO THE FUTURE," BECAUSE 20
YEARS AGO WE ARE HAVING SIMILAR
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
WERE STANDING UP FOR GAY RIGHTS
AND THE WHOLE IDEA OF GAY
MARRIAGE.
TODAY GAY MARRIAGE IS LEGAL AND
MOST AMERICANS SUPPORT GAY
RIGHTS AND GAY MARRIAGE.
NOW THE QUESTION IS, CAN YOU
PROPERLY SAY "THIS IS HOW I FEEL
IN TERMS OF MY SEXUAL IDENTITY
WILL" WITHOUT FEAR OF
DISCRIMINATION?
ARE YOU A PROTECTED CLASS LIKE
IN TERMS OF GENDER, RACE,
NATIONAL ORIGIN?
WE’VE GOT SHANNON HERE TO TALK
ABOUT THE LAW.
SO FAR TRANSGENDER PEOPLE ARE
NOT PROTECTED, BUT I WOULD THINK
THAT RIGHT NOW WE ARE COMING TO
TERMS, AND THIS IS A CULTURAL
TRANSITION POINT.
TO YOUR QUESTION, NO, I DON’T
THINK ANY POLITICIAN THINKS IT’S
GOING TO BOOST HIS STANDINGS
LEFT OR RIGHT, BUT I WILL GIVE
BIDEN CREDIT FOR BEING
EMPATHETIC FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE
GOING THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES.
THE UTAH GOVERNOR SAID SOME OF
THESE TRANSGENDER YOUTH HAVE
VERY HIGH SUICIDE RATES.
>> Julie: CAN I JUMP IN?
I HAVE TO.
FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT I DON’T
THINK COMPARING GAYS TO
TRANSGENDER SHOULD BE ANY
DIFFERENT.
THEY SHOULD BE PROTECTED, AND I
DON’T THINK POLITICIANS SHOULD
BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND AFRAID
TO NOT GIVE THESE PROTECTIONS TO
THIS COMMUNITY OF TRANSGENDER
WHERE THERE IS A HUGE SUICIDE
RATE.
THE SUICIDE RATE AMONG
TRANSGENDER YOUTH IS HORRIBLE.
THEY NEED THAT PROTECTION FROM
HATE CRIMES, FROM
DISCRIMINATION.
SO I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE
SHOULD BE PROTECTION.
DO I BELIEVE THAT THIS LAW
GIVING THE PARENTS TO RIGHT TO
CHOOSE IN FLORIDA IS ANTI-TRANS?
NO.
I BELIEVE PARENTS SHOULD HAVE
THE RIGHT TO TELL THEIR
CHILDREN, "YEAH, GO TO SCHOOL,
YOU’RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE
WORRY OF LEARNING SOMETHING
INAPPROPRIATE."
I WOULDN’T WANT MY FIVE YEAR OLD
TO LEARN ABOUT TRANS AND GAY.
I’M GOING TO TEACH MY CHILDREN
ABOUT IT BUT NOT AS A
5-YEAR-OLD.
BUT I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE ONE
AND THE SAME.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ONE IS
ENTITLED TO PROTECTION WHILE THE
OTHER ISN’T, BECAUSE TRANS ARE
DISCRIMINATED AGAINST MUCH MORE
THAN GAYS.
THEY NEED MORE PROTECTION, I
WOULD SAY.
>> Kayleigh: SHANNON, I THINK
A LOT IS BEING CONFLATED.
YOU CAN LOVE AN INDIVIDUAL NO
MATTER -- EVERY GROUP SHOULD BE
PROTECTED BY THE LAW.
ALL OF THAT CAN BE SAID.
THIS IS AN ARGUMENT ABOUT
EDUCATION, ABOUT PARENTS’
RIGHTS, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN
VIRGINIA WHEN YOU HAD A
DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE SAY PARENTS
HAVE NO ROLE IN EDUCATION.
IT’S THE CRT CURRICULUM, THAT
PARENTS DON’T GET TO SEE WHAT
THEIR CHILDREN ARE LEARNING, AND
NOW THIS NOTION THAT IT IS
SOMEHOW WRONG TO SAY, "I DON’T
WANT MY KIDS TO BE TAUGHT ABOUT
SEXUALITY FROM A TEACHER.
I WANT TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THOSE
ISSUES AND MAYBE SHIELD THEM
FROM THOSE ISSUES UNTIL MIDDLE
SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL." >> Emily: I LOVE THAT
--
>> Shannon: I LOVE THAT JULIE
MAKES THIS DISTINCTION.
PEOPLE WANT TO BE PROTECTED AND
FEEL SAFE AND NOT AS COMMITTED
AGAINST.
THAT IS SEPARATE AND ABOVE,
DIFFERENT FROM THIS LAW IN
FLORIDA.
I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT
FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
AND IT’S NOT FAIR WHEN PEOPLE
MISCHARACTERIZE WHAT THE LAW IS
AND WHAT IT ISN’T, BECAUSE THEN
WE CAN’T HAVE PRODUCTIVE
CONVERSATIONS.
LAURA INGRAHAM HAD A GUY ON LAST
NIGHT WHO IS AN EMPLOYEE AT
DISNEY AND HE SAID THERE’S A
SILENT MAJORITY THERE THAT IS
REALLY AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT
THE POLITICAL, THE LOCALNESS, ALL
THAT, BECAUSE WHATEVER THEIR
FAITH BACKGROUND IS ON THINGS
LIKE MARRIAGE, THAT THEY CANNOT
SPEAK FREELY.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN
HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE
CONSTRUCTIVE AND THAT PROTECT
PEOPLE, AND IN MY FAITH
TRADITION AND ALL THE ONES I
KNOW ABOUT ON THIS PLANET, IT’S
ABOUT RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLE,
CARING FOR THEM, AND SEEING THEM
AS CREATED IN GOD’S IMAGE.
WITH THAT AS A STARTING POINT I
WOULD HOPE WE CAN HAVE A
RATIONAL CONVERSATION THAT
DOESN’T MISCHARACTERIZE WITH
THESE DIFFERENT LAWS DO AND
DON’T DO.
>> Emily: MAY ALSO ADD THAT,
RESPECTFULLY, JUAN, WE HEARD
THAT FALSE EQUIVALENCY, THAT IS
NARRATED BY THE LEFT, TO EQUATE
ANTIGAY LEGISLATION OF A
HISTORICALLY DIFFICULT AND
MASSIVELY TROUBLING CHAPTER OF
OUR HISTORY, COMING OUT OF ANITA
BRYANT AND PROPONENTS, AND THIS
LEGISLATION IS SIMPLY TO PROTECT
PARENTAL CHOICE IN THE REALM OF
EDUCATION FOR VERY YOUNG
CHILDREN.
UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT
FURTHERS THE FALSE NOTION THAT
THOSE THAT ARE FOR THIS BILL OR
FOR PARENTAL CHOICE AND FREEDOM
OVER THE YOUNG CHILDREN, THAT IT
SOMEHOW MEANS IT IS ANTI-TRANS.
WE ARE OFFERED TRANS PROTECTION.
WE ARE ALSO ALL FOR PARENTAL
CHOICE.
>> Juan: I’M GLAD TO HEAR
THAT.
I AGREE WITH --
I WAS JUST SAYING, I AGREE,
EMILY.
I THINK WE ARE ALL FOR
PROTECTION.
I’M SO GLAD TO HEAR EVERYONE
HERE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT ACROSS
ALL POLITICAL LINES.
I DO THINK THAT AS AN AMERICAN
CULTURE WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH
THIS TRANSGENDER ISSUE.
I, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE REAL ISSUES
WITH TRANSGENDER GIRLS COMPETING
WITH GIRLS IN SPORTS.
THAT’S A DIFFICULT ONE.
I THINK THAT’S THE STRUGGLE AND
THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT.
IT IS SIMILAR TO THE STRUGGLE WE
HAD WITH GAY RIGHTS.
REMEMBER, OBAMA SAID HE EVOLVED
ON IT AND THAT’S COMING FROM THE
LEFT.
>> WE ARE SEEING THE SAME AND
FORTUNE TWISTING OF THE TRUTH.
WE ALL SEE THE SAME WAY BUT
COMING OUT OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION IT’S A VERY DARK
PAINTING OF THE G.O.P.
>> Kayleigh: IT IS.
WHAT THEY HAVE MANAGED TO DO IS