sibling rivalry, things are
heating up in church on own's
Greenleaf.
>> Thank you for joining us now.
>> Thank you so much for coming.
>> You're getting everyone fired
up right there.
You don't see women leading mega
churches.
You're breaking a lot of
barriers.
It's groundbreaking in that
sense 1234.
>> I love that Greenleaf is
always trying to push the
envelope, bring things wen have
the been talking about.
And I love that I get to be a
part of that conversation.
>> This show has always -- it
puts you in the center of the
nitty-gritty subjects, right?
>> Yeah.
We don't shy away.
>> I feel like the stakes are
even higher for your character.
Are you ever reading scripts and
you're like, how are we going to
do --
>> Yes, I am.
>> I mean, the things that
happen to her.
If you haven't caught up.
Season two and three on Netflix,
all right?
>> However, the things that keep
being thrown at grace, she has
to contend with while being on
the platform.
This is real stuff we're talking
about.
Bringing people to the holy
spirit, to god.
Are flawed human beings.
>> I love that the show is not
afraid to talk about fate.
It's controversial, right?
The fact that fate is really the
infrastructure and the backbone
of the show.
Is there a commonality with the
actors?
>> Oh, yeah.
I think most of the actors on
the show love the lord, but more
so, I think it's just the truth
of a situation that we all have,
we have some kind of
relationship with our
spirituality or lack thereof,
you see many people in different
phases of that in the show.
It's not all a religious show.
It's not what it is.
People who happen to it's just
the family works in a mega
church.
They have to contend with
everything that comes along with
real life.
>> Your character is involved
with Rick fox.
I mean, come on.
>> It's so hard.
>> Life is so hard.
>> You can wear whatever high
heels you want.
>> That's right.
>> You two, the chemistry you
have is so strong on this show.
I think people are rooting for
you all in ways, it's like,
okay, okay, can we give a little
bit more.
A little more heat?
>> I love it, it is great
chemistry and he's always so
great to work with.
Now he's moving on to something
really big with the Bahamas
relief effort.
The things that are happening
down there, definitely check
that out and check them out on
social and everything.
>> You've also said that when
Oprah puts on her acting hat, it
makes you feel like you're
sitting with your auntie?
>> She's the best, man, she's
the best.
In every way.
She's an encourager, she's
inspiring, just obviously, she's
Oprah Winfrey.
>> She's a good actress too.
>> She's a fantastic actress.
The fact that she can set all
that aside and make you feel so
at ease and present.
It can be intimidating, you
>> She knows that.
>> She's like, I'm going to
diffuse this, and I'm going to
do this.
>> I've heard that you were
acting in theater when you got
the call to be on this show.
Is that right?
>> Were you in theater?
>> Well, on the Broadway boards
for a good ten years.
I saw you in chorus line too.
You were awesome.
>> Thank you so much.
>> I was guest starring on a
show.
And I got a call, Oprah would
like to meet you today.
>> That's a cool call.
>> It was the worst call.
>> How does that conversation go
in.
>> Talking to her?
>> First time.
Yeah, first time.
What is that like.
>> I just went to her office and
she offered me this job.
>> So it went well?
>> I mean, going to meet the
wizard.
It was wonderful.
She gave me the job of my dreams
and the fact that it is
something that is so meaningful
and able to heal certain
situations that people are going
through.
That's what you want your work
to do.
>> In that time, we need that.
We need that stuff.
>> This is a totally silly
question, but I wonder, if you
were going to get a voice mail
message from one Keith or Oprah
to record your -- who's going to
be your -- who's going to be the
>> Keith plays father.
>> And he's the arbiter too.
So he's got mad skills.
>> I love my bishop, but I mean,
come on, Oprah?
She just makes you smile.