all right now to a person but over the book actually knows michael jackson
steve which it is online there with us and he was personal photographer michael
jackson from
on ninety four ninety four and ninety-five steve along the interest
a dictator i'm
sunday so that
lot of speculation there as to what we just heard that bhagat you obviously
spent some time with them so of what are your thoughts here i mean having
interacted with them uh...
is that what we were expecting a tells now uses newsday ever saw
it's really funny because i think that my experience with them in
i have never talked like you know
public way i've talked to a lot of crime up like that
when i call it
he passed away i called you guys because
i love your show and and you're the only interview i really want to do about that
but but
my feeling about michael is that michael showed me
michael was incredibly sweet and kind to me
but i feel like michael showed me what michael wanted me to you
missus since uh... and
uh... yes is yours personal photographer force he's gonna
i direct you were to show the rest of the world as well
subdirectory right exactly and and i do
but there were and i could popu bread or about that but know that you got one
section several
the one segment so i won't
go into too many details but i mean there were things that
saw the genius dot the man
dog
i thought i thought like
a and intuition that he had one time highly
what time i had to go to is parents house and i met his father
the right after that i would love to be
and
i forget my connection dad last week
and he looked at me and he's dead
he knew that i knew
you know
and and i mean i think that is
not a good person
salvos
scheme for the people who don't know about his relation with his that tell us
what you think he means by sea
i think that what you mean cutting that it that came to me what i was a powerful
at how much is white something you'd be here
and we're going to be out of the house and just
just kind of people everything you care could just sort of intimidate me and
bohemian
and you know and all that then
you know i'm not like a real aggressive type of a person's so i was by one of
the paper ticket bread but it was
if they would like a just understood me and my sensitivity was well enough to
understand that high
that we didn't have to have a a conversation about it they had to know
that i got
what his dad was all about
was what was driving his interviews and his insecurities uh... was this
lack of love and
that the government that in the stall unbelievable intimidation et-cetera that
he got from is that
i couldn't get back
that that part of it and
at the risk of being a armchair psychologist
i think that the biggest thing and probably the most
important thing i have to pay about michael instead
michael was surrounded white by people who wanted to tell him yet
andy
your newly married and i've been married for ten years and
were the best thing that i would like to for assisting single
that's not a good idea don't go don't do that
and michael was surrounded with everybody that one of the tellin ya and
you're just not
nobody to push to have that you need to have people tell you know
economic sense sku that
creates a bubble where
you can't we got your bad ideas perfect refractory
and an even your bag if they get amplified does every sunday yes yes yes
this i mean is that we had an algae but as part of the reason with the white
bush was such a disaster because no one had the nerve to tell no and whatever is
dumb ideas for everybody said yes yes yes so though some of the plastic
surgery will reduce his you know mike sense is that that's part of what undo
them here health-wise uh...
even back in ninety four ninety five who was a clear view of that he had
you know psychological need to possibly change his appearance
i don't know if i can't speak to that but i know that i thought him
more than once without makeup on and it was perspective
i don't know how to talk bad about it because i think because i genuinely
date only on my interaction with him ait genuinely like the man but but i think
he is clearly had
way more than what he had made it to
to corporate
script put it that way spice
and he doesn't
so surgeries and i think he's going to get up to triple digits alright
parag
can't really i can't really speak to but what we've had was that when i would see
him when i was working with him he was living in trump tower in new york until
i'd fly out from new york terror from l_a_ to new york and there we can do it
through the photo shoot with them and and you don't get the film process
back in the film days
and um...
you know and then go see all of the film until i come over
to department in trump tower and
he'd come out with no makeup on and he always had like a band-aid covering his
nose
you know end and it was like uh... like home and
you know it just
it was set
self-interest
really set steve of five question for you with honesty with cities it was a
personal fire for michael jackson between and nineteen ninety four
nineteen ninety-five uh... and
you know personal interactions with a minute ago during that gave you any
insight into him other than the data one with which is
uh... powerful because it gives you a set of of course is mindset
and what was driving to some degree but anything that led you to think the one
way or another uh... conclu conclusions to harvest of word for it
any any very the story that led you to feeling one way or another about michael
armed
just picked i screwed up a job one time
and
when it was discovered that i screwed up a job he took me aside and he said
i know how hard you are on yourself
this one if you fall
you'd you did what you were supposed to do but it was it was
and photograph the one thing
and
kiki com produced he he's dead
he could you know
your i'd know that you really really hard on yourself and i had never told
him i was really hard on myself but i am i have
really high expectations of myself in
and he is in the fact that
with everything else that was going on
that he had that insight into ny
predators
you noted that left me with the warm place in my heart for him that i will
always have
yan is that since it is on his deeds have like an insider and people around
them both
nodded to himself uh... to adapt i could agree with that yep party was uh...
thanks so much for joining us on the interest really appreciate you coming on
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