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>>> WELCOME BACK TO GREAT DAY WASHING.
WASHING.
WASHING. IN.
IN.
IN. A
IN. A NEW
IN. A NEW LIMITED SERIES FROM
NETFLIX CALLED UNBELIEVABLE IS
BASED ON THE PULITZER PRIZE-
WINNING ARTICLE THAT WAS
WRITTEN ABOUT A TEEN THAT
REPORTS BEING RAPED AND
RECOUNTS HER STORY AND TWO
FEMALE DETECTIVES FOLLOW
EVIDENCE THAT CAN REVEAL THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH.
TRUTH. HERE TO TELL US ABOUT THE
SERIES ARE THE WOMEN WHO PUT
THE SHOW TOGETHER.
SUSANNA GRANT, LISA TAYLOR
JERICHO, AND I THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE.
BEING HERE. >> THIS IT REALLY IS AN
INCREDIBLE SERIES.
INCREDIBLE SERIES. IT'S VERY EYE-OPENING AND VERY
HEARTBREAKING.
HEARTBREAKING. WHAT MADE YOU TAKE ON THIS
TOPIC IN THIS STORY?
>> WELL, IT WAS AN AMAZING
STORY.
STORY.
STORY. IT
STORY. IT WAS NOT ONLY A GREAT STORY,
BUT IT LOOKED AT RAPED IN A WAY
THAT I JUST HADN'T HEARD PEOPLE
TALKING ABOUT FROM THE VICTIM'S
PERSPECTIVE.
PERSPECTIVE. THAT FELT NEW.
>> IN THE HOSPITAL SCENE, YOU
SEE ALL THAT SHE GOES THROUGH
JUST BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN RAPED
AND NOW HAS TO DO THIS WHOLE
LONG HOSPITAL THING.
YOU DON'T HIT THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY THAT THE
INVESTIGATION FEELS LIKE A
SECOND ASSAULT, BUT WE WERE
REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT
EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY IS AND
LETTING VIEWERS UNDERSTAND
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. >>
THAT. >> SO WHAT ARE YOU HOPING?
THE ARTICLE HAS BEEN OUT THERE,
THE STORY HAS BEEN OUT THERE.
WHAT ARE YOU HOPING THIS SERIES
BRINGS TO LIGHT OR MAYBE EVEN
MAKES PEOPLE THINK ABOUT A
LITTLE MORE?
LITTLE MORE? >> WE ARE HOPING IT REALLY
STARTS A CONVERSATION.
IT FEELS LIKE SEXUAL ASSAULT IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE TALK
ABOUT OPENLY AS MUCH AS THEY
MIGHT GIVEN THE PREVALENCE OF
IT.
IT.
IT. A
IT. A CRIME THAT HAS BEEN SUCH A
PROBLEM FOR DECADES, CENTURIES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF HARMFUL
MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT RAPE AND
ABOUT VICTIMS AND ABOUT TRAUMA.
WE HOPE WE SHINE SOME LIGHT ON
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. >>
THAT. >> LISA, YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE
PRODUCER FOR THE FIRST THREE
EPISODES.
EPISODES.
EPISODES. YOU SEE THREE DIFFERENT CASES
AND HOW THEY WERE HANDLED SO
COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY BY THE
DETECTIVES.
DETECTIVES. TALK ABOUT THAT AND PORTRAYING
THAT IN THOSE DIFFERENT
SITUATIONS.
SITUATIONS. >> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. THEY ARE RADICALLY DIFFERENT
STORIES.
STORIES.
STORIES. ONE TAKES PLACE IN SEATTLE, ONE
TAKES PLACE IN COLORADO.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WOMEN
CRACKING THE CASE AND IT WAS A
WARM ENVIRONMENT.
WARM ENVIRONMENT. THERE WAS THINGS.
IN SEATTLE IT WAS COLD AND MORE
DARK AND DOWN.
JUST THE WAY THAT WE DEALT WITH
THE CAMERA AND WANTING TO GET
INTO THAT SPACE OF WHAT DOES IT
FEEL LIKE TO BE CLOSED IN ON
AND INTERROGATED?
AND INTERROGATED? AND THE OTHER WHEN AND WHERE
THE WORLD OPENS UP.
FEMALE DETECTIVES WERE ON THEIR
TEAM AND THERE TO SUPPORT THEM.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE BECAUSE
THAT STRONG STORYLINE, THESE
WOMEN DETECTIVES, THESE FEMALE
DETECTIVES HAD A DIFFERENT
SENSE OF EMPATHY FOR THESE
VICTIMS AND MAYBE TOOK THEM A
LITTLE MORE SERIOUSLY?
DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A BIG
PLAY IN ALL OF THIS?
YOU HAD TO MAIL DETECTIVES IN
THE FIRST CASE.
>> THE GENDER DIFFERENCES VERY
OBVIOUS, BUT WHAT ISN'T AS
OBVIOUS IS THE DIFFERENCE IN
THEIR EXPERIENCE IN THEIR
TRAINING.
TRAINING.
TRAINING. THE DETECTIVES IN WASHINGTON,
THIS IS THE GUYS THIRD SEXUAL
ASSAULT CASE.
ASSAULT CASE. HE'D BEEN A NARCOTICS DETECTIVE
FOR A DECADE BEFORE THAT.
WHERE AS THE COP IN COLORADO
HAD BEEN INVESTIGATING THESE
FOR DECADES.
FOR DECADES. THIS, CERTAINLY, ISN'T
SOMETHING THAT'S OUT OF THE
REACH OF REALLY GREAT,
COMPASSIONATE MAIL DETECTIVES.
MEN ARE JUST AS CAPABLE OF
DOING THIS WORK AS WELL AS
WOMEN ARE.
WOMEN ARE. >> HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ANYONE
WHO WAS RAPED BEFORE AND
THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE THIS
AHEAD OF TIME?
>> WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ON
OUR PRODUCTION WHO CAME TO US
AND SAID, THIS IS REALLY HARD
AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
ME.
ME.
ME. I
ME. I THINK THEY FOUND IT TO BE
KIND OF CATHARTIC.
>> IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO
BE MAKING IT AND REALIZED THAT
A MONARCH SORT OF FAMILY THAT
WE DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING A
LOT OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR
GROUP, THEY EXPERIENCED THAT.
>> THEY PROBABLY FINALLY FELT
THAT THEY COULD SAY SOMETHING.
THAT THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS
SUPPORT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S
ALL WE HAD BEEN SAYING.
NOT ONLY ARE YOU GOING TO BE
BELIEVED, BUT TO BE RE-
VICTIMIZED OVER AND OVER.
THEY LOVE HEARING THAT, BUT
THEY FOUND A SUPPORT CIRCLE
AMONGST YOU AND AMONGST THE
CREW.
CREW.
CREW. >>
CREW. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT
THAT SUPPORT DOES EXIST.
THERE ARE A LOT OF
ORGANIZATIONS DOING REALLY
GREAT VICTIM ADVOCACY.
PEOPLE FEELING LIKE THEY ARE
ALONE SHOULDN'T BE ALONE.
>> AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
WORKING TO STREAMLINE THAT
PROCESS TO A VICTIM DOESN'T
HAVE TO TELL THEIR STORY OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
EVEN ON A GOOD DAY, WHAT A
PROCESS THAT IS.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CHANGE
THAT NOW.
THAT NOW.
THAT NOW. >> IT'S LIKE SHE HAD TO RELIVE
IT EVERY TIME SHE TOLD IT.
>> AND YOU THINK OF, WHEN YOU
SEE SOMETIMES THEY ARE TRYING
TO CATCH YOU, CATCH THE
INCONSISTENCIES OF YOUR STORY.
AS ANYBODY THAT SUFFERED ANY
KIND OF TRAUMATIC INCIDENT,
THINGS START TO RECALL AND THE
ADRENALINE GOES AWAY AND YOU
START TO THINK A LITTLE MORE
CLEARLY.
CLEARLY.
CLEARLY. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
TO US AND CREATING A STORY.
TONY IS ONE OF THE DETECTIVES.
THE CAST IS INCREDIBLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND