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>> Chris: WHEN DEMOCRATS TOOK
CONTROL OF THE HOUSE IN THE 2018
MIDTERMS, THEY GAINED SUBPOENA
POWER AND THEY ARE TRYING TO USE
THAT POWER TO LOOK INTO THE
PRESIDENT'S CONDUCT AND BUSINESS
DEALINGS, MOVE THE PRESIDENT'S
LAWYERS HAVE CALLED AN ALL-OUT
POLITICAL WAR.
JOINING ME NOW, MASSACHUSETTS
CONGRESSMAN AND 2020 DEMOCRATIC
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SETH
MOULTON.
CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME TO
"FOX NEWS SUNDAY."
>> Congressman Moulton: IT'S
GREAT TO BE HER.
I'M NOT GOING TO START BUT
WISHING YOU HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY,
BUT I AM GOING TO WISH MY MOTHER
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY AND MY WIFE
LIZ.
IT'S HER FIRST MOTHER'S DAY
EVER, SO TO MY MOM, TO LIZ AND
TO MY DAUGHTER AND ME, I LOVE
YOU.
>> Chris: YOU WANT TO DO A
SETH MOULTON.COM FUND-RAISING
FOR?
I'M TEASING.
THAT'S VERY LOVELY.
I AGREE.
LORRAINE, I WISH YOU A VERY
HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY BECAUSE --
THANKS FOR SHOWING ME OFF,
CONGRESSMAN.
BEFORE WE GET TO ALL THE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSE ON THE
WHITE HOUSE, AFTER
PRESIDENT TRUMP RAISED TARIFFS
ON CHINESE GOODS ON FRIDAY
MORNING, YOU TWEETED THIS, YOU
PUT IT ON THE SCREEN.
WHETHER IT'S FARMERS OR FEDERAL
WORKERS, AMERICANS AND THEIR
PAYCHECK SHOULD NEVER BE USED AS
PAWNS IN A NEGOTIATION.
BUT CONGRESSMAN, DON'T WE NEED
TO GET TOUGH WITH CHINA?
THEY'VE BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
US WITH UNFAIR TRADING PRACTICES
FOR DECADES.
>> Congressman Moulton: WE
ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET TOUGH
WITH CHINA, AND IT'S NOT JUST ON
TRADE.
IF THE RISING THREAT THAT CHINA
IS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
THEY ARE SPEWING AMERICAN IDEAS
AND AMERICAN MILITARY SECRETS TO
THE INTERNET EVERY SINGLE DAY.
BUT WE NEED A STRATEGY.
I LISTEN TO MR. KUDLOW'S
INTERVIEW.
I DON'T THINK THIS IT
ADMINISTRATION HAS A STRATEGY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE OF
URGENCY AND THEY CLEARLY DON'T
KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS TO AMERICAN
FAMILIES.
2,700 -- YOU PUT THE NUMBER ON
THE BOARD, DOLLARS A YEAR.
THAT MATTERS TO AMERICAN
FAMILIES.
YOU ASK A MUCH THAT MATTERS TO
AMERICAN SOYBEAN FARMERS WHEN
THEY CAN'T SELL THEIR SOYBEANS.
>> Chris: SO HOW DO GET TOUGH
WITH THEM IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO
USE TARIFFS?
>> Congressman Moulton: YOU
HAVE TO HAVE A CONFERENCE OF
STRATEGY AND I'M NOT SAYING THE
TARIFFS SHOULDN'T BE AN OPTION
ON THE TABLE, BUT THAT MEANS
THAT WE ACTUALLY BUILD OUR
ALLIANCES IN THE PACIFIC.
I'M CALLING FOR USING THE NATO
MODEL IN THE PACIFIC TO HELP
CONTAIN CHINA AND NORTH KOREA.
THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN DOING THE
EXACT OPPOSITE.
HE'S BEEN UNDERMINING OUR ALLIES
ACROSS THE GLOBE.
IT MEANS USING INSTITUTIONS LIKE
THE WTO.
THAT'S NOT PERFECT, IT'S NOT
GOING TO SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM,
BUT EVERY CASE THAT THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION HAS BROUGHT
BEFORE THE WTO AGAINST CHINA,
EVERY SINGLE ONE HAS BEEN
DECIDED -- HAS BEEN IN OUR
FAVOR.
IF THE PRESIDENT IS SIMPLY LYING
WHEN HE SAYS THE WTO DOESN'T
WORK.
WE NEED TO HAVE A CONFERENCE OF
STRATEGY FOR CHINA, BECAUSE THEY
ARE A MASSIVE THREAT.
BUT JUST WIELDING TARIFFS LIKE A
CULTURAL BECAUSE IT MAKES THE
PRESIDENT LOOK TOUGH, THAT ONLY
HURTS AMERICAN FAMILIES.
>> Chris: ALL ALL RIGHT, LE'
>> Chris: ALL ALL RIGHT, LES
TURN TO THE BATTLE NOW, THE
ESCALATING BATTLE BETWEEN THE
HOUSE AND THE WHITE HOUSE OVER
THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION, WHERE
IT GOES FROM HERE.
THE PRESIDENT IS FIGHTING ALL
SUBPOENAS FOR DOCUMENTS AND
CURRENT AND FORMER ADVISORS TO
TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS, AND THE
HOUSE DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING
BACK EITHER IN ONE CASE VOTING
IN A COMMUNITY FOR CONTEMPT OF
CONGRESS, AND OTHERS THREATENING
TO VOTE COME HERE WAS THE
PRESIDENT'S REACTION TO THAT.
>> WITH ALL OF THIS
TRANSPARENCY, WE FINISH NO
COLLUSION, NO OBSTRUCTION,
RIGHT?
AND I GET OUT, LET'S DO IT AGAIN
AND I SAID THAT'S ENOUGH.
WE'VE GOT TO RUN A COUNTRY.
>> Chris: DOES PRESIDENT TRUMP
HAVE A POINT?
I MEAN THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION
WENT ON FOR 22 MONTHS AND CAST A
CLOUD OVER HIS PRESIDENCY IN
THIS COUNTRY ALMOST TWO YEARS.
LOOK, NOBODY ON YOUR SIDE IS
EVER GOING TO BE SATISFIED WITH
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, WHY
NOT GO ON AND DEAL WITH
POCKETBOOK ISSUES THAT REALLY
AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES?
VOTERS ARE GOING TO DECIDE IN A
LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A 2020
ELECTION WHETHER THEY WANT TO
KEEP PRESIDENT TRUMP OR NOT.
>> Congressman Moulton: FIRST
OF ALL, DON'T THINK THAT WE
CAN'T DO BOTH.
DEMOCRATIC HOUSE HAS BEEN
PASSING A LOT OF LEGISLATION
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO AMERICAN
FAMILIES, BUT IT'S ALSO OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO
HOLD THE ADMINISTRATIONS
ACCOUNTABLE.
THAT'S WRITTEN INTO THE
CONSTITUTION.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THAT THIS INVESTIGATION IS
EXACTLY WHAT YOU TERMED IT
FIRST, IT'S AN INVESTIGATION
ABOUT RUSSIA, AND WHETHER YOU'RE
A DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE OR THE
BIGGEST TRUMP SUPPORTER IN
AMERICA, EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD
WANT TO KNOW WHY VLADIMIR PUTIN
WANTED TRUMPET ELECTED PRESIDEN
PRESIDENT.
>> Chris: THE HOUSE
INVESTIGATIONS ARE NOT ABOUT
RUSSIA, THEY ARE ABOUT TRUMP,
YOU ARE SUBPOENAING HIM -- NOT
HIM, BUT SOME OF HIS TOP PEOPLE.
BARR, MCGANN.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT RUSSIA, IT'S
ABOUT TRUMP.
>> Congressman Moulton: WE
NEED TO HOLD THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE,
BECAUSE THAT'S OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY, BUT YOU'RE
RIGHT IN CRITICIZING US FOR NOT
FOCUSING ENOUGH ON RUSSIA.
THAT'S WHY I'M IN THIS RACE COME
TO TALK ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY,
BECAUSE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE
LEADING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
WHEN WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS
LITERALLY COZYING UP TO SOME OF
THE WORST DICTATORS IN THE
WORLD, SOME OF OUR BIGGEST
ENEMIES.
I DO THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT,
THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS,
BECAUSE THAT IS THE UNMISTAKABLE
CONCLUSION OF THIS REPORT.
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ASIDE, RUSSIA MEDDLED IN
ELECTION.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY WILL
MEDDLE IN 202012 BECAUSE THIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE NOTHING
TO STOP THEM OR DETER THEM.
>> Chris: I WANT TO ASK YOU
ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN WE
WILL MOVE ON TO SOMETHING YOU
PROBABLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT,
YOUR CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT, WE
SAW TWO VERY DIFFERENT
APPROACHES THIS WEEK TO THE
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION FROM THE
TWO TOP LEADERS OF THE HOUSE AND
THE SENATE, LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
>> EVERY SINGLE DAY THE
PRESIDENT IS MAKING A CASE --
SHE'S BECOMING SELF-IMPEACHABLE.
>> THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S FINDING
IS CLEAR, CASE CLOSED.
>> Chris: THERE WAS AN
ARGUMENT THAT DEMOCRATS WOULD BE
IN A STRONGER LEGAL POSITION TO
GET ACCESS TO DOCUMENTS, TO GET
ACCESS TO CURRENT AND FORMER
ADVISORS OF THE PRESIDENT IF YOU
WERE TO OPEN A FORMAL
IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING -- NOT
SAY YOU NECESSARILY ARE GOING TO
IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT, BUT OPEN
IT AND SEEK ALL OF THAT UNDER
IMPEACHMENT -- WHICH IS YOU
TALKED ABOUT IN THE
CONSTITUTION, IT'S IN THE
CONSTITUTION, IMPEACHMENT.
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT?
>> Congressman Moulton: I DO.
I SUPPORTED IT LAST YEAR.
I THINK WE MADE A MISTAKE AS A
PART BY WAITING UNTIL THE
MUELLER REPORT CAME OUT.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT
THIS IS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THE
ARGUMENT THAT IT'S NOT A
POLITICALLY OPPORTUNE TIME FOR
US TO PROCEED WITH THIS, TO HAVE
THIS DEBATE.
DON'T FORGET, CONGRESS DOES TWO
THINGS, WE DEBATE THINGS AND
THEN WE VOTE ON THEM.
I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD VOTE ON
IMPEACHMENT YET, WE DON'T EVEN
HAVE THE FULL MUELLER REPORT,
LET'S HAVE THAT DEBATE.
I CALLED FOR THAT A YEAR AGO AND
WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING IT
BECAUSE IT'S OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
DUTY.
POLITICS ASIDE, HOW MUCH IS
DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THE
CONSTITUTION?
>> Chris: OKAY, YOU GOT INTO
THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE PRETTY
LATE, APRIL 22ND.
A THIRD TERM CONGRESSMAN --
FORGIVE ME SIR, WITH ALMOST NO
NATIONAL PROFILE, WHAT MAKES YOU
THINK, IT WILL BE SLICK SLOWED
OUR FEAR OF HER PARENTS TODAY,
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT YOU
HAVE A REALISTIC CHANCE OF
WINNING THE PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINATION?
>> Congressman Moulton:
BECAUSE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
TO DEMOCRATS IS BEATING
DONALD TRUMP IN BRINGING THIS
COUNTRY TOGETHER.
THE HARDEST JOB I'VE EVER HAD IN
MY LIFE IS LEADING AMERICAN
TROOPS IN COMBAT.
IT'S BRINGING TOGETHER A
REMARKABLY DIVERSE GROUP OF
AMERICANS WITH DIFFERENT
RELIGIOUS BACK ON DIFFERENT
POLITICAL BACKGROUNDS FROM A
DIFFERENT POLITICAL BELIEFS AND
GETTING THEM TO UNITE BEHIND A
COMMON MISSION TO SERVE OUR
COUNTRY.
AND THAT I THINK IS EXACTLY THE
KIND OF LEADERSHIP THAT WE NEED
FROM THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
SPOON I'M GOING TO GET YOUR
FOREIGN POLICY BUT WHAT MAKES
YOU THINK -- POLITICS IS
PRACTICAL, POLITICS IS TOUGH.
IF YOU'RE ONE OF, WHAT, 22 AND
FEEL, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU
HAVE A CHANCE?
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE A LOT BETTER KNOWN THAN YOU
ARE.
>> Congressman Moulton: I'M
THE ONLY ONE WITH THAT
EXPERIENCE.
I'M THE ONLY ONE OF THAT EXPENSE
OF UNITING AMERICANS IN THE MOST
DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES
IMAGINABLE.
AND I'M ALSO THE ONLY ONE IN
THIS RACE THAT IS TAKING ON
DONALD TRUMP ON ISSUES OF
SECURITY, ON STRENGTH, ON WHAT
WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE AMERICA
STRONGER, ON WHAT IT TRULY MEANS
TO BE PATRIOT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WIN
THIS RACE WE DON'T CHALLENGE
DONALD TRUMP NOT JUST ON HIS JOB
AS PRESIDENT, BUT IN HIS JOB AS
COMMANDER IN CHIEF, AND WE HAVE
TO CHALLENGE THEM THERE IF WE
ARE GOING TO WIN.
>> Chris: AND BRIEFLY, BECAUSE
WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE,
WHAT IS -- YOU KEEP TALKING
ABOUT NATIONAL SECURITY,
DEFENSE, FOREIGN POLICY, WHAT IS
YOUR FOREIGN POLICY?
>> Congressman Moulton: WE
NEED A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF
ARMS.
WE NEED TO BE CHALLENGING CHINA
ON DEVELOPING ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE, ON BUILDING A
CYBER WALL TO PROTECT AMERICA,
NOT BUILDING A FIFTH CENTURY
BORDER WALL.
CHINA HAD THAT DEBATE 2,000
YEARS AGO ABOUT BUILDING A WALL.
WE NEED THAT NEW GENERATION OF
ALLIANCES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
MAKE NATO RELEVANT FOR TODAY
BECAUSE RUSSIA IS ATTACKING US
THROUGH THE INTERNET.
IF NOT BY SENDING TANKS INTO
WESTERN EUROPE.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
HAVE A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERS
TO LEAD THIS CHARGE.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE
GENERATION THAT WENT TO IRAQ AND
AFGHANISTAN TO TAKE OVER FOR THE
GENERATION THAT SENT US THERE.
>> Chris: I HAVE ABOUT A
MINUTE LEFT.
THE DNC HAS SET A JUNE 12TH
DEADLINE, A MONTH FROM TODAY,
FOR DECIDING WHO IS GOING TO BE
IN THAT FIRST SET OF TWO DEBATES
AT THE END OF JUNE.
RESIDENTIAL DEBATES.
HERE ARE THE CRITERIA.
CANDIDATES MUST EITHER RAISE
MONEY FROM AT LEAST 65,000
DONORS, OR HAVE AT LEAST 1%
SUPPORT IN THREE POLES.
IF YOU DON'T QUALIFY AND YOU
DON'T END UP GETTING ON THAT
DEBATE STAGE FOR THE FIRST
DEBATES IN JUNE, DOESN'T THAT
KILL YOUR CANDIDACY BEFORE IT'S
EVEN REALLY BEGUN?
>> Congressman Moulton: IT
DOESN'T, BUT WE ARE ON TRACK TO
MAKE THOSE GOALS.
YOU SAID EARLIER I GOT INTO THIS
LATE LATE, I DID.
THE REASON IS SIMPLE, I HAVE A
7-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER AT HOME.
LEAVING HER HOME TO HIT THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS NOT AN EASY
DECISION.
I'VE NEVER EVEN BEEN A FATHER
BEFORE.
BUT IF THERE'S A PERSONAL REASON
WHY I'M DOING THIS, ASIDE FROM
TRUMP AND THE POLICIES AND
EVERYTHING ELSE, IT'S THAT I
WANT MY DAUGHTER AND TO GROP
WANT MY DAUGHTER AND TO GROA
WANT MY DAUGHTER AND TO GROD
KNOW THAT I DID EVERYTHING I
COULD TO SERVE THIS COUNTRY.