right now they are trying to figure out what the NSA is doing and what kinda
information they've been collecting on us
for such a long time %uh Senator Ron Wyden was talking to an essay chief
General
Keith Alexander and go he did okay we have a video showing you how tense their
exchange was let's take a look
senator Udall answer Heinrich and I along with bout to doesn't other
senators have ask in the past whether the NSA
has ever collected or made
any plans to collect Americans cell site
information in bach on july twenty-fifth director clapper provided nonclassified
written response to this question amongst others
as well as a classified sup map with additional detail
allow me to reaffirm what was stated that unclassified response
under Section 215 an essay is not receiving cell site location data
and has no current plans to do so effect if I might just have a few more because
it doesn't
I think we're all familiar with it that's not the question I'm
asking respectful am asking have
the NSA ever collected or
ever made any plans to collect American cell site information that was the
question
we still respectfully general have not gotten the answer to could you give me
an answer to
but we did we sent that in both please let me continue
that notice to the core in a briefing would be a
required if the government were to seek production of cell site location
information
as part of the bulk production ups up call detail records
additional details were also provided
in the Classified supplement to director clappers
july twenty-fifth response to this question so what i don't wanna do
senator
is put out in unclassified form any think that's classified here
so I'm reading you exactly so we sent both for those to you
so basically he's reading from a statement that was prepared
by the NSA he's not really answering the question which is why senator I whiten
is getting so frustrated with him in that situation
and at now says has indicated that
they are in fact collecting cell data showing exactly where you are
and they keep going on and on and on about how look we're not meeting the
content of your email we're not listening to the content of your phone
calls
which is collecting this metadata but when you really look at the metadata
that can actually reveal more information on the content of the email
or the phone call itself and we'll get to that in just a second
yeah I the when you answer the question that set that way twice
the answer the question is yes with it yeah I yeah out
yeah and and well here's a back story to that NY Alexander
is both cautious and at the same time dismissive a wide
because he hates wine his wines the guy that asked me a question
earlier that got him in so much trouble cuz why did talk about hate you collect
information on all Americans and
clapper a a if originally and then alexander
the guy he in this case had basically lied about at and gotten a lot of
trouble so now is likes
I am do that again others really the same statement a hundred times are you
want me to
my lawyers but it does I'm not gonna save the outside of the lawyers
and yes obviously we do it you know we do it that's why yes a question
because you have classified information that other people don't have and so
I'm not going to review it for you I'm not gonna lie under oath
and I'm not gonna reveal it some not gonna play your game is what alexander
was saying there
but in the head if you're paying attention to you know what's happening
widening did what he wanted to do which is to reveal
that yes in fact they are collecting the data as to where you are when you make
the cell phone call
and clapper who lied about that to congress were
was duly punished by being immediately promoted that's right
that's exactly what happened yet and so alexander's thing I wanna blow my
promotion I
back yeah it was also incredible is right now senator Feinstein is trying to
find ways to
I guess control the NSA to some extent but
whatever proposal she's coming up with is a really gonna change anything
because anyone labeled a terrorist
anyone who suspected of being a terrorist can have all their collection
%uh
information collected by the NSA so all you need is that label and they can just
continue doing what they've been doing
hip so it's there's no real proposal to gain back
Americans trust all you have to do is pay close attention it's the same time
same thing that we've been seeing for it for a while now
the government is pointedly lying about exactly doing and her companion to lie
exactly as senators when they ask direct questions about this
they're continuing to lie but the press won't say that
right and I can ever say that in fact the repeat the government's talking
points
but this is just bought data that's what's been that was being collected air
right
even though we know from Reuters that's what is happening
is that they are listening to americans phone calls and when they find something
illegal
that doesn't have to do with terrorism this post it rolled up but what they're
doing is they're not throwing out that information
they're taking that information in the calling local law enforcement
through the DEA and giving them that information so they can go arrest you
so that's literally thought the worst thing that you were afraid of happening
is happening it is happening worst thing you can think up
is happening yes so they are actually looking into the content of your email
are and your phone call you know I don't believe otherwise but lets a best-case
scenario they aren't lying and they are
at all they're doing is looking at the so-called metadata
out there is a princeton computer science professors name is Edward fell
ten
he was talking to the press and he said look all you need is that metadata to
get really really private personal information about people
so he says the following: this newfound data a storage capacity has led to new
ways and exploiting the digital record sophisticated computing tools
permit the analysis of large data sets to
identified embedded patterns and relationships including personal details
habits and behavior so begins this
hypothetical situation which makes a lotta sense he says consider the
following hypothetical example
a young woman calls her gynecologist then immediately calls her mother
that a man who during the past few months she repeatedly spoken to on the
telephone after 11 p.m.
followed by a call to a family planning center that also offers abortions
a likely story line emerges that would not be as evident by examining the
record of a single telephone call
Catwoman 2004 all yeah
well that is a conclusion you can draw if you've decided to target her
by the way yes right and also it turns out they should get brighter for having
phone sex after eleven o'clock
I also ahead God
II so this is the most telling part of what Alexander said
when asked is the goal that essay to collect the phone records of all
Americans
right that's pretty good question is that your goal because remember
what the soda with was know we're looking into suspected terrorists
to end this point so when they go to that again they go to that well you know
no
when they revise it under Feinstein's proposal already suspected terrorist
the last time you'd collected million s your data on three hundred million
american space on
suspected terrorism are we all suspected terrorist that makes no sense
well Xander says yes I believe it is in the nation's best interest
to put all the phone records into a lockbox
that we could search when the nation needs to do exactly
yes okay so is so if you start speaking up and pissing off someone in power
we got all your phone records asshole and we're gonna go look through our
and they were gonna kept some dirt on you and guess what you're gonna shut up
so that's what that is right they got him in a lock box it all up by the
lockbox
who is the key every asshole the government as the key to that
and a private contractor should what we should do those dismissed the ability to
stop this
like and you can dismiss find I don't know enough about five such proposal and
yes I guess anybody could get labeled a terrorist but actually probably
not anybody could get labeled a terrorist if there is an actual court
its agree with the other 1000 for sale if there's an actual court
with actual teeth that wall give you a warrant to do it
then you've got some actual teeth to prevent this it's not that hard
me a secret court no a court to real core or a secret court
with Realty there's no such thing okay well them find a real poor
that works you know you have a secret court okay a court
but I'll be we don't know because we have one secret court to seek a court
isn't the robbers right that's why that we can have a secret court but he
certainly can have this secret corporate I don't get to write about whether to be
sicker I should be a court
reasonably looks at it that has clearance that is as serious people on
it
has a serious advocate policy yeah it's only that's right
okay so what's funny is that you that the only alternative because is not like
we're gonna lose the ability to look at the records for hikes on you want a
solution want something that's it we have that's how we do that's how we
handle every
check-and-balance in the two hundred and thirty years touring the country
okay so the Benz right like you know we've had court said its work to write
overall a way to justice system any checks to get used to check to cover
from was a while
but what's funny is that conservatives have a real jewel point about coming
into big
because then it encroaches upon things and it takes more and more power
and always wants more power right so what are they do they make the core
secret and then they said okay if you don't do this year pro terrorists than
you know on Nate's took got more and more power than their court the secret
courts letterman the
senators letterman the room house lead elements that are on the
republicans that in the beginning the democrat thought well okay we're gonna
be seen week if we don't do with the republicans it
and then the N they want up putting all over our
M all of three hundred million Americans data
in the lockbox right and they know who you called when you call them
whether your slut right whether you had called for massage
or your bookie or whoever and where you call them from according to alexander
basically hywell he look to you for massage
I just nothing but respect for me and i'd
I
so and then in the end yet government got too big
and it has all over information and thanks for all terrorist they we r
if we challenge the government s right court even were in all Rand Paul
said earlier this year that you know of people
because I don't think we should target people up by the religion if they're
Muslim or anything
he said but I think if people have been listening to speeches by religious
leaders
who are calling for harm to the american government those people should be
arrested
so he's for freedom of speech but not free love listening that's a
working libertarian senator yeah okay so he really said that so this whole thing
about
accords gonna be a fun fair no way I just don't know where you pay
they can say you're gonna see your terrorism when you say that the other
courts work really well I have in the past
all talk to 33 percent over black males a cat bowl anymore
how well that scrub court system works in america
and the final irony of all this is that when the Conservatives
to some degree will provide about how big government can be and how dangerous
it could be
they turn around and vote in favor you know because the biggest supporters so
the NSA
search a and and in targeting all of us
artwork initially the bush-cheney administration who started all this
stuff
all the Republican senators and congressmen the supported them now and a
majority of the republican
senators and congressmen who support them to this day in the NSA and the
wiretapping and the gigantic government
and some that afflict sometimes a libertarian Reason sometimes for true
conservative reasons
but very rarely oftentimes is just because now Obama's doing it
but overall it was conservatives who said
big-government we cool love it
right as long as as authoritarian