- Hey everyone, welcome back to my channel.
Today I have a very special guest, Jessica Kellgren-Fozard.
- Hello Hannah Witton.
This collab has been asked for a lot.
- Yes. - You are in high demand.
- Aww, thank you everyone who asked, thank you.
- A bit of background on you.
- Oh, like my whole life story, sure.
- Maybe not the whole life story.
- So I have a YouTube channel.
It's my name, Jessica Kellgren-Fozard.
And I make videos all about living with a disability,
and chronic illness, and also just happy gayness
because I have a beautiful wife.
And we have dogs, and it's cute.
Yeah, I have a disability called, wait for it--
- Whoa, here we go!
Hereditary Neuropathy with Liability to Pressure Palsies
and Mixed Connective Tissue Disorder
with Associated Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome.
- I'm going to get you to write that down for me,
so my editor can (laughs).
- Yeah, it affects a whole range of things,
like my nerves, my organs, my hearing, my vision,
my cognitive abilities, but we'll get into this.
I'm sure because we'll learn more.
- We are going to get into this
because we did a video on Jessica's channel
all about defining disability and if we
identify as disabled, and how,
and why, and all of that good stuff.
And basically, I have come up with this theory
that works for me, personally.
I'm just putting it out there.
This is my personal theory of how--
- It's a great theory. (laughs)
- How I identify as disabled because of my stoma.
And basically, it's if the apocalypse were
to happen, can I just get up and go?
I basically come up with a list
of different types of apocalypses,
and we're going to discuss whether or not,
with our different conditions, what would happen.
So the first one is the zombie apocalypse.
- Sure. (thunderstorm sound)
- So, I don't know if I have a straight up
advantage or disadvantage here.
What I will say, my blanket rule for any apocalypse
is that my first point of call
was I need to get to a hospital and get stoma supplies.
- Ah, yes. - Would you think,
I need to go to a hospital and stock up on medication?
(laughs) - Well
I take a lot of medication daily,
but two of them are controlled substances
that are quite powerful to the extent that my
GP will only give me a certain amount at a time.
- Well, I'm talking about the apocalypse.
So we would be raiding and stealing.
- No, I realise we're breaking in.
(laughs)
But, my point is we're going to have to go to
every single pharmacy in town.
- Because they won't have a lot?
- Yeah. - Hmm.
We're going to need to store up
because I have to take three of these bastards a day.
- So you would just like bunker up at home.
I think that's what most people
would do in a zombie apocalypse situation.
Bunker up at home.
- Yeah, it just depends on the kind of zombies.
Are they the fast zombies or the slow zombies?
- We're talking slow zombies. - Ah, okay.
- Traditional, slow zombies. - We're good.
So, we need to immediately get in the car,
go all around town gathering supplies,
and then you just come back
to the house and you board stuff up.
- The other thing I was curious about,
like if we we're to get bitten and turn into a zombie.
So, your body is technically dead.
- Yes. - So, does the
zombie body still have that disability?
- Yeah. - So, my zombie version
would have a stoma?
I don't know, would yours--
- I think your zombie would die
faster than other zombies, though.
- Do zombies die? - Well, they're undead.
- So the other one is a very specific one.
It's a film, A Quiet Place.
- Yeah, okay. - So, I think
you would do great because the premise
is that the monsters come when they hear you,
so you can sign and lip read.
- I would just like to point out
that them coming when they hear you,
most likely means the deaf people are going to die first.
- Oh, because they can't hear themselves
if they're making noise.
- We don't know when we're being noisy.
- Oh, I didn't even think of this!
- Right, like you can kind of
step around the rooms super carefully
and when you feel, your like,
oh that floorboard's starting to creak,
just going to lift my foot up.
Where as I'm just like, (stomping sounds)
(laughing)
- But before you die, can you teach
me how to lip read and sign?
(laughing)
So, I can survive. - Crash course!
- That would be great.
In all of these situations,
I would need my supply of stoma bags,
but in this specific one,
I might survive but I wouldn't able to communicate.
I wouldn't be able to communicate.
- You guys can write stuff, you'll be all right.
- Hmm, sorry. Okay, this next one,
again, is a very specific film and we're going to do
spoiler alert for World War Z.
What they figure out is that it's a virus
and the virus only attaches
itself to healthy hosts, so there's loads of people
who the infected don't even touch,
it's like they don't even see them.
- I also love that not even do they not see them,
they don't want to touch them. - Yeah!
- Because at one point there's a boy standing still,
and the zombies go around him.
- And it's because he's terminally ill,
so the virus doesn't want to
attach to any bodies that are dying.
So my condition isn't a terminal condition,
and yours isn't either, but would it be able
to sense that the body is not healthy.
- Wait, so do you now have no colitis?
- I have a little bit still in my bum hole,
but I might be having surgery to get that removed.
- Well, don't do that. (laughs)
What if World War Z happens, Jesus.
- I know, I need to keep a little bit of me unhealthy.
- But the fact is, you still got it right?
So they would be like, oh no.
- Is it anyone with an illness,
or is terminally ill conditions?
- I don't think you have to be terminal
because if you have a chronic illness--
- Then they might just be like, nah not gonna bother.
- Yeah, because you're like, I'm not going to
get very far on this body, why bother?
- Cool, so I think we'll be pretty set in this scenario.
Everyone is just dying around us.
We just stand still and they just run around us.
- We're going to rule this world.
(laughs)
There's like five people who are left.
- The Rapture. - Oh, okay.
- So, I think I wouldn't be raptured.
I think by, if-- - What are the rules
of rapture? - I don't know.
Somebody else made them up, but I'm a sinner.
By the rules of whoever decided that The Rapture
was a thing, I think by that doctoring, I have sinned.
Let's pretend you weren't raptured, and we're here.
So, my first thought is that there'd be moral panic,
but once the moral panic dies down,
there's just less people on earth and more supplies.
- But, does that moral panic
turn into something like a Handmaid's tale?
- Yeah. - In which case--
- Well, you would be sent off.
Okay, so in The Handmaid's Tale situation,
you'd be sent off to the colonies,
because... or they might just kill you.
I don't know what they would do with you.
Oh, but you're also a gender traitor because your gay.
(laughing) - Yeah.
- The next one is a VR simulation.
Imagine if the world was crap
and everyone lived in a virtual reality world.
- Oh, like that terrible film. - Yes, yes.
Kind of like Ready Player One.
Is that what you're talking about?
So, I was thinking you can have
your virtual reality person be whoever,
like be non-disabled, or whatever.
But, your real body is still on earth and functioning.
So I could be in the simulation for days,
for hours, or whatever, but my real body
would still neethe stoma bag changing.
- Do you not come out of
the simulation to change it? - Well, that's the thing.
I don't know.
How often do you come out of the simulation?
How often does he come out of the simulation in Avatar?
- Oh, I guess they could just sit
my body down. and hook it up to a drip.
Because I was going to say, I forget to take
my pills and I don't drink,
then I'm pretty rapidly going down.
But, if I could just hook myself up,
because you can get an IV version of my pills.
- So, my other one is just a bit more general.
So, we've got AI tries to kill us.
- Sure. - Alien invasion
and some kind of mutant uprising.
- Sure. Technically, I am a mutant.
- This is what I was thinking, do we count as mutants?
I've got a little bit of my intestine
hanging up on the outside of my body, that's kind of mutant.
- Yeah, but what's your actual DNA?
- Probably not mutating. - You're not one of us.
- This is the thing, there'd be a separation in society.
The mutants would rise.
Crush as all! - I'm on the
winning side guys. - Crush us all,
crush us all! - I'm on the winning side!
(laughing)
- We're going to get real life now.
- Okay. - These are two
very real apocalypses that are right around the corner.
- Oh, wow, because the AI wasn't?
- Oh yeah, that is as well.
These ones are maybe more around the corner, I don't know.
Brexit. (laughing)
- How are we going to die in the apocalypse of Brexit?
Oh wait, what day is this video going out?
- So, I think this video is going out--
- [Both] On the 29th!
- Well, guys come back to us tomorrow
and you'll se how we're doing.
- Yeah, so potential food supplies from the EU.
What's that about?
Also, I'm pretty sure all of
our medication comes from the EU.
- Well, again, yeah.
Part of the issue is that the medication
we're going to a problem getting access to
is stuff like, ibuprofen and paracetamol.
It's not the controlled substances.
- So, we're fine. - We aren't like demons.
- Do the EU reduce my stoma bags?
I don't know, hopefully not.
I literally placed an order this morning
because I'm going on holiday as well,
like when Brexit is happening.
So I placed an order of like so many stoma bags.
- Right. - The final one.
Global warming. (roaring noise)
- I mean, what type? - So, the type
that is currently happening, so the way
that could affect our daily lives is
disease, and then from places that are really
affected by climate change, the mass migration of people
to places that are less affected.
So, basically the real life apocalypse.
(laughs) - Okay, well
if we're talking just about like global
weird-ing. - Global weird-ing, yup.
- So just the weather changes, I find that,
we went to go live in Malaysia for two months,
and I really found that the heat there was
quite helpful for my pain, - So you would be like, great
if the overall temperature-- - I'm okay with it.
I would need air-con, not the most environmentally
friendly thing but there we go.
- So you would thrive? (laugh)
People have told
me that they have to change their stoma
more regularly in hot places because--
- Oh, because it gets hot? - Because your skin is like
sweaty and then the sweat can break down
the adhesive that's sticking into you,
so you'd have to change it more often and stuff.
- Oh. - Yeah, so I might
have to get through more stoma bags,
and then they'll be less of them,
and then I'll run out eventually.
Let's us know in the comments
any other kinds of apocalypses that
you think we should probably consider and be prepared for.
And how you think you would survive,
die, thrive, or whatever in all of these scenarios.
- Particularly, if you feel like your
disability would give you the upper hand.
- Yeah, I'm really interested to hear those stories.
- Hmm. (evil laugh)
- Well thanks Jessica for coming on my channel.
Make sure you check out the video
that we did on Jessica's channel as well,
where we talked more about
disability in a more serious way.
(laughs)
- I've enjoyed this though. - Me too.
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