cyber world view would dennis campbell dennis is editor in chief of u_k_
progressive magazine also the host of worldview show on youtube youtube dot
com slash world view show dennis before coming into the studio today i was
watching the helicopter shots of pope benedict the sixteen th going to uh...
the castle where he will be house temporarily before returning to the
vatican when that
housing is ready for him in this final speech that he gave in in the coverage
that i was watching in the coverage involved
uh... even
uh... you know openly gay journalist thomas roberts on msnbc and so many
other people in different channels
kinda really ignoring the fact that the catholic church is is essentially an
organization that is openly anti gay
and discriminatory and also ignoring the fact that this entire papacy including
the resignation more and more appears to be revealed in the of uh... of cover-ups
and and uh... uh... protection of child abusers in pata files in the church
is the coverage
on your side of the pond also basically ignoring that
well as well as all consuming and bbc has had a lot of fees for most of the
day and and
you know it's it's mostly been talking about being a possible successors and
and where they think things are going to go
but you know the wasn't that nobody is talking about is that you know under the
previous pope john paul the second
uh... you know it was uh... then karnal rats and right now pope benedict
who was the man who was ultimately responsible
four the investigation of than it is indeed under his uh... of control
that most of the abuses were swept under the rug looking for a period of two to
three decades that
this man was uh... knee-deep in the scandal and it has haunted him now and
many believe it is holding him completely out of office
that there is bad salute me no coincidence what so ever
my guest last week was the the record doctor britton and chillin you know he
makes simpson fairly strong assertions about what's happening across europe in
terms of uh... you know the building for a group of others
that this has been a is shocking revelation to them and that they don't
want this to go any further in the honestly believe many do here that he
was actually hounded out of office
in exchange for making the whole prosecution thing go away right no
question about that
that uh... timing and of course the fact that it's been six hundred years since a
pope resigned in
uh... really six hundred years ago things were broadly just very very
different it's unclear whether even that comparison here that this is the first
more moderately modern po to resign i think we have to really look at it that
way in
and the six hundred years thing seems almost irrelevant
well and his predecessor went to great lengths to say
network television
believe that the aging process and and death itself was a part of life and
you know he reluctance although the moment that he died because he wanted
people to see local fair
you know in a failing health condition while vasily fail all
that we can do that but uh... enough for him to suddenly turn around and resigned
and say hi and hired
does not fit the the mold in in in any stretch of imagination
so what's next on may now of course will have the
uh... election of the new pope and
when you walked in so much
la here on mainstream media with with kind of of these people kind of glossing
over saying will the new pope b
uh... someone who sets a new tone and takes a new direction and modernize is
the catholic church and really what ac of what i hear
when that's being asked is
will date not shelter pedophiles and will they not be incredibly anti-gay and
backwards on so many science-based issues that's really but i don't even
know that that questions being taken seriously
we're using double entendre isn't just kind of dancing around the real
questions
is it the same thing on your end
yeah i mean that i think the issue is you know how can you expect uh... you
know sexually young men
when they enter the priesthood in their twenties and thirties who are full of
testosterone
to take a bow taken with a vow of celibacy
uh... in essentially an on played in a brotherhood in a in a in a cloistered
environment
when you know that there probably at their their physical sexual prior
and generally expect them to be settled and then we come back later forty years
after and say well you were bad because you basically follow the urges that
woodbury it just is is not
anywhere in scripture written or anywhere in with the founding of the
church
other than just by a group of men
we decided that this was the way it was going to be would have to be settlement
to be a previous there's actually no reason to celebrate seem a lot of church
other than protection of property all property ending up with back to the
church they couldn't think of any reason why and that's the some of the debate
that goes on here secondly deposition with all these need to use these
children have been mouth treated
uh... but i i guess today is is a general who's been on your program
who wrote the book about religious child maltreatment all of the issues around
that
of not just the sexual abuse for physical abuse emotional abuse control
issues
on health issues it's it's just incredible and these are the things that
the the modern church in the next twelve months to dress or else the church will
fade into our elements young kinda curious because when when pope john paul
the second passed away
and there was the election of anindita sixteen
even though
we knew about all of the of child sex abuse and maltreatment in all of that
that was going on
utm pope john paul the through the second
ended his papacy in a way that really brought a lot of people in and increased
favor of the catholic church now this is a very different situation i'm curious
whether now uh... i would guess broadly speaking historically when and when love
new pope is elected interests in favor of billy for the catholic church tends
to take a up a little bit i wonder if this will be an exception because of the
circumstances of the resignation and the terrible new der terrible investigations
that have come out
over the last few years about what's been going on
well that's going to be a huge issue because it in that he had an opportunity
in his last few days
to really step forward in address these issues and he chose not to those who say
that it would be up to the next book now if they go and do you know for somebody
who is as conservative as rock singer was uh... or you know even john paul
beforehand i mean these were very strict constructionist
there against gays or against uh... anything to do with birth control
problems
anything of that so uh... it's a step back in the eyes of many since so many
people in the church you know do use birth control of some sort
do looked favorably upon that do look favorably upon
you know the idea of homosexuality and gay marriage
the church doctrine is so strongly written in such a way as the others to
prevent it solely in indy are we going to bring this church into the
twenty-first century i think is the challenged but faces a new hope
in all likelihood this will not be an italian or perhaps even a european power
this will be able to of
the developing parts of the world occurred mexico south america africa
all leading candidates thanks to uh... paddy power which is the the big
bookmaking site as well as others their all saying
that it looks as though it's going to be moving out of the traditional battalion
european mold for the first time
alright tennis campbell and they're in chief but the u_k_ progressive magazine
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