FOUR YEARS.
JACQUI.
>> Jacqui: ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
>> John: JACQUI, FOR MORE ON
THIS, KELLYANNE CONWAY, FORMER
SENIOR COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR.
MANY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR
AT LEAST A COUPLE DECADES BUT
NOBODY DARED TO TOUCH THAT THIRD
RAIL OF POLITICS.
HERE IS WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN
SAID THAT HE WANTS THE DNC TO
DO.
FIRST WILL BE SOUTH CAROLINA,
SECOND WILL BE NEVADA, THIRD NEW
HAMPSHIRE, WHICH IS COMPLAINING
IT’S GOT A LAW THAT SAYS IT HAS
TO GO FIRST.
FOURTH, GEORGIA, AND FIFTH
MICHIGAN.
REPUBLICANS SAY THEY ARE GOING
TO STAY THE SAME, WITH IOWA AND
NEW HAMPSHIRE FIRST AND THEN
SOUTH CAROLINA THIRD.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
PROPOSED CHANGES HERE?
>> THIS IS A NAKED, BLATANT
ATTEMPT FOR JOE BIDEN TO MAKE
SURE HE GETS RE-ELECTED, JOHN,
PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
A GUY WHO UNDERPERFORMED
EMBARRASSING IN IOWA, PETE
BUTTIGIEG WON IOWA, AND THEN JOE
BIDEN STRUGGLED IN THE EARLY
RACES UNTIL HE GOT TO SOUTH
CAROLINA WINNING ON THE BACK OF
JIM CLYBURN, A VERY POPULAR
CONGRESSMAN, A LEGEND IN SOUTH
CAROLINA SO HE WANTS TO MAKE
SURE THE FIX IS IN EARLY.
NOW, WITH ALL THE TROUBLE THAT
WE HAVE HAD WITH OUR ELECTIONS,
ALL THE CONSTERNATION,
FRUSTRATION AND CONFUSION VOTERS
FEEL ABOUT MAIL-IN BALLOTS AND
EARLY VOTING, ABSENTEE VOTING,
TO DO THIS IS ANOTHER WAY FOR
JOE BIDEN TO ENSURE HE WON’T
HAVE A STRONG CHALLENGER.
THE OTHER THING IS HE’S
BASICALLY TELLING IOWA, WHICH IS
TOTALLY TAKING FROM FIRST
CAUCUS, FIRST IN THE NATION
CAUCUS OUT OF THE LIST OF FIVE,
HE’S CALLING THEM A RACIST
STATE, SAME WITH NEW HAMPSHIRE,
AND THEN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
WOMAN WHO HAS AN OFFICIAL
POSITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE SAYING
EXCUSE ME, NOT SO FAST, WE ARE
NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO
HAPPEN. ALSO, DEMOCRAT SENATOR FROM NEW
ALSO, DEMOCRAT SENATOR FROM NEW
HAMPSHIRE, KATHERINE CORTEZ
MASTO ISSUED STINGING
STATEMENTS, THEY VOTE WITH HIM
98% OF THE TIME.
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE 2%
THEY DISAGREE IS NOT THE
INFLATION REDUCTION ACT OR THE
WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN OR
THE FACT HE HAS NOT VISITED THE
BORDER AT ALL, HE’S BEEN TO
DELAWARE 174 TIMES, THE BORDER
0, DISAGREE WITH HIM ON MOVING
THE PRIMARY CALENDAR.
SO I THINK THIS IS ONE LAST
THING.
JOE BIDEN IS VERY WORRIED ABOUT
HAVING A PRIMARY IN HIS PARTY
THE WAY JIMMY CARTER DID, GEORGE
BUSH 41 DID AND ANOTHER WAY TO
TRY TO STAVE THAT OFF.
HE’S NOT GOING TO BE -- HE’S NOT
WELCOME ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
EVEN TODAY IN GEORGIA.
HE’S TRYING TO LIMIT HIS
APPEARANCES ON THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL BY HAVING A CALENDAR IN
HIS FAVOR.
>> John: I’VE ALWAYS THOUGHT
HAWAII WOULD BE THE PERFECT
PLACE TO KICK OFF THE PRIMARY
PROCESS IN THE DEAD OF WINTER,
NOBODY HAS EVER LISTENED TO ME
ON THAT.
>> LET’S GO.
>> John: AND THE FACT THEY WANT
TO GET RID OF THE CAUCUSES IS
INTERESTING.
FOR DECADES THIS IOWA CAUCUS
WHERE PEOPLE GATHER IN LIVING
ROOMS AND SALONS ACROSS THE
STATE AND THEY TALK ABOUT
POLITICS AND THEY TALK ABOUT WHO
THEY WANT AND GATHER IN SMALL
GROUPS SUPPORTING VARIOUS
CANDIDATES.
I MEAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY,
WELL, THAT EXCLUDES A LOT OF
PEOPLE FROM THE PROCESS BECAUSE
YOU’VE GOT TO BE A CARD CARRYING
MEMBER YOU ARE SUPPORTING IN THE
CAUCUSES, BUT IT WAS AN
INTERESTING EXERCISE IN PUBLIC
DEMOCRACY.
>> IT IS, AND JOHN, YOU HAVE
COVERED THEM, I’VE COVERED THEM,
I’VE PARTICIPATED IN THEM AS A
STRATEGIST, CAMPAIGN MANAGER,
AND THERE’S REALLY NO SUBSTITUTE
FOR CAUCUSES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
GRASSROOTS TRUE
DEMOCRATICIZATION OF THE VOTING
SYSTEM.
AND ANYBODY CAN JOIN.
YOU CAN DECIDE YOU WANT TO VOTE
IN THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS OR THE
REPUBLICAN CAUCUS AND NOW WE ARE
GETTING AWAY FROM DEBATES, WE
HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT EVEN
DEBATING OR DEBATING AFTER
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VOTES
HAVE BEEN CAST, THAT’S A CORE
ESSENTIAL PART OF DEMOCRACY,
GETTING AWAY FROM CAUCUSES IS
ONE MORE THING, JOHN, THE
CAUCUSES, THE DEBATE, THEY GIVE
ALL THE VOTERS A FREE OF CHARGE
INSTANT OPPORTUNITY TO POKE THE
FRUIT, TO LOOK AT ALL THE
CANDIDATES TOGETHER AND SUS OUT
WHO THEY WANT TO HAVE.
BUT I THINK JOE BIDEN, THEY ARE
TRYING TO PUT THE FIX IN NOW.
THEY KNOW HE CAN’T RUN
NECESSARILY ON HIS
"ACCOMPLISHMENTS," CAN’T RUN AS
THE OLD RICH LIBERAL WHITE GUY
IN WASHINGTON BEEN THERE OVER
FIVE DECADES AS THE LEADER OF
YOUTH, ENERGY IN THE FUTURE AND
DIVERSITY, TRYING TO GET HIM NOT
SO MUCH IN THE BASEMENT BUT KEEP
HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
HE CANNOT GO TO GEORGIA TODAY TO
HELP RAFAEL WARNOCK, HE’S
ACTUALLY GOING TO BOSTON, THE
WAY THEY SENT HIM TO UNION
STATION.
UNION STATION IS NOT A SWING
DISTRICT, IT’S NOT A BLUE OR RED
STATE, IT’S A TRAIN DEPOT AND
THAT’S WHERE THEY SENT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE WANTED THE
PRESIDENT TO BE CAMPAIGNING.
THEY ARE TRYING TO LIMIT JOE
BIDEN’S APPEARANCES FOR JOE
BIDEN IN 2024.
REALLY REMARKABLE.
>> John: BACK TO THE CAUCUSES
AND THE PRIMARIES, GOING FROM A
CHILLY NEW HAMPSHIRE IN 2016 TO
SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE THIRD
CONTEST THINKING OH, GREAT, IT’S
GOING TO BE NICE AND WARM.
IT WAS COLDER IN SOUTH CAROLINA
THAN IT WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
>> COLD THERE, TOO.
>> John: THAT’S WHY I THINK