THE WAY FOR THE DOCTOR AMID
GROWING SCRUTINY OVER HIS COVID
FAILURES.
HERE FOR REACTION, FORMER HUD
SECRETARY, THE FOUNDER AND
CHAIRMAN OF THE AMERICAN
CORNERSTONE INSTITUTE, DR. BEN
CARSON.
DR. CARSON, THANKS SO MUCH FOR
JOINING US.
>> JASON: I’VE GOT TO TELL YOU,
SOME OF THE GUIDANCE ALONG THE
WAY, 54 YEARS, SITTING IN THAT
ONE SEAT, IT’S JUST TOO LONG.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT TERM LIMITS
FOR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
THERE SHOULD BE TERM LIMITS FOR
SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE
ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
DON’T YOU THINK?
>> WELL, DON’T GET ME STARTED ON
TERM LIMITS, BUT I WILL SAY,
I’VE KNOWN DR. FAUCI FOR
DECADES.
WE BELONG TO SOME OF THE SAME
ORGANIZATIONS.
WE’VE BEEN ON TOGETHER, AND HE’S
MADE SOME VERY GOOD
CONTRIBUTIONS TO MEDICINE,
PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF
AIDS.
BUT I WAS ON THE TASK FORCE, THE
CORONAVIRUS VIRUS TASK FORCE
WITH HIM AND HAD A NUMBER OF
DISAGREEMENTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN
IT COMES TO THERAPEUTICS.
AND BECAUSE PEOPLE DISAGREE, IT
DOESN’T MAKE THEM ANTI-SCIENCE,
SO I THINK THAT IT’S SOMETHING
THAT HE WOULD DO WELL TO
CLARIFY.
HE’LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
CLARIFY THAT.
HE’LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE
THE CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES TO
TALK ABOUT MANY OF THE
STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE
PERHAPS VARIED A LITTLE BIT FROM
VERACITY, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK
ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT WE
HAVE RIGHT NOW IS PEOPLE HAVE
LOST FAITH IN OUR PUBLIC HEALTH
AUTHORITIES, AND THE WAY THAT
WE’VE HANDLED COVID HAS BEEN A
BIG PART OF THAT NOT TALKING
ABOUT NATURAL IMMUNITY, WHICH
WE’VE KNOWN ABOUT FOR HUNDREDS
OF YEARS, SINCE THE CIVIL WAR.
AND THE TREMENDOUS BENEFIT THAT
IT CONVEYS TO PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT WAS A BIG MISTAKE.
TALKING ABOUT VACCINATING KIDS
WHEN THEY HAVE ALMOST A ZERO
PERCENT MORTALITY, AND VERY
LITTLE MORBIDITY FROM IT.
AT LEAST EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY
SHOULD THEY GET VACCINATED IF
THEY ARE A CHILD.
AND THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT.
AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT
WILL BE VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF
RESTORING TRUST IF THEY HAVE AN
EXPLANATION.
BUT I THINK THE AREA WHERE HE
COULD BE MOST HELPFUL IS TO
REALLY CONDEMN THE COLLUSION OF
BIG TECH AND SOME OF OUR FEDERAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN
SUPPRESSING THE OPINIONS OF
PEOPLE WHO DISAGREED WITH THE
CDC AND WITH SOME OF THE
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HE PUT
FORTH.
YOU KNOW, THAT’S NOT ONLY A
PROBLEM WITH MEDICINE, THAT’S A
PROBLEM WITH FREEDOM IN OUR
COUNTRY.
ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PILLARS
THAT MADE THIS INTO A GREAT
NATION.
WE CAN’T ALLOW THAT KIND OF
THING TO STAND.
SO HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, I
THINK, TO RECTIFY SOME OF THE
MISTRUST AND PERHAPS ENHANCE HIS
LEGACY.
>> JASON: WELL, I THINK THAT’S
ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS,
IS THE LOSS OF TRUST BECAUSE
YOU’RE RIGHT.
WHEN WE NEED THE CDC, WHEN THERE
IS SOMETHING THAT’S GOING
RAMPANT, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE
LOST SO MUCH TRUST I THINK SO
MANY PEOPLE ARE SO SKEPTICAL
THAT THEY WON’T NECESSARILY
LISTEN, AND THAT’S BECAUSE OF
THE WAY DR. FAUCI PERSONALLY
HANDLED IT.
EVERY TIME HE’S ON VANITY FAIR
AND DOING ALL THESE MEDIA
INTERVIEWS AND WRITING A BOOK,
AND MAKING $5 MILLION DURING
COVID, A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST
DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> I’M SURE THEY DON’T.
MAYBE A LITTLE HUMILITY.
JUST A LITTLE BIT WOULD GO A
LONG WAY.
I WAS WRONG.
BUT WE’VE LEARNED SOME OTHER
THINGS.
WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE IN THE
POLITICAL ARENA HAVE SO MUCH
DIFFICULTY SAYING THOSE WORDS?
>> JASON: YES.
I THINK IT’S A GREAT POINT.
JUST AN OUNCE OF HUMILITY ALONG
THE WAY IN SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE
LEARNED FROM THIS.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
THAT’S WHO WE ARE, DOCTOR,
RIGHT?
WE’RE SELF-CRITICAL BUT WE DO IT
IN ORDER TO MAKE THE WORLD A
BETTER PLACE.
I’VE GOT TO TELL YOU, DOCTOR,
I’M A HUGE FAN OF WHAT DID YOU
AND HOW YOU DID IT.
YOU PERSONIFIED HOW TO DO THESE
TYPES OF THINGS.
WE NEED MORE OF THAT IN OUR
PUBLIC SERVANTS, NOT LESS, SO
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
I WISH I COULD TALK TO YOU FOR
THE FULL HOUR BUT I HOPE YOU