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>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF
"COUNTDOWN BIN LADEN," HOST OF "FOX NEWS SUNDAY," CHRIS
WALLACE.
CHRIS, YOU HAVE INTERVIEWED KEY PLAYERS.
I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, A NICE VISUAL AID HERE.
YOU HAVE INTERVIEWED MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS FAMOUS PHOTO OF
THE NIGHT THEY GOT BIN LADEN.
SECRETARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE GATES, C.I.A. DIRECTOR
PANETTA, ADMIRAL McRAVEN WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THE ACTUAL
ATTACK, BUT IS NOT IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH.
>> HE IS IN JALALABAD, AFGHANISTAN.
>> Stephen: AND SEAL TEAM 6 MEMBERS.
WHAT SURPRISED YOU ABOUT THIS THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW, BECAUSE SO
MUCH HAS BEEN WRITTEN.
>> I THINK TWO THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, THE MAN WHO KILLED BIN LADEN, WAS A NAVY SEAL, SEAL
TEAM 6, ROB O'NEILL.
HE.
THE ONE WHO WENT UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, GOES INTO THE ROOM.
BIN LADEN TAKES ONE OF HIS THREE WIVES WHO WERE IN THE HOUSE--
THAT IS AN INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP RIGHT THERE-- HOLDS
HER IN FRONT OF HIM, AND HE SHOOT THREE TIMES IN THE HEAD.
AND I SAID TO HIM, "HOW DANGEROUS DID YOU THINK THIS
MISSION WAS?" AND HE SAID, "ONE-WAY TICKET."
AND I SAID, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN?" "SUICIDE MISSION.
THERE IS NO WAY IF BIN LADEN IS IN THE COMPOUND, IT ISN'T BOOBY
TRAPPED BY THE TIME WE GO IN THERE.
WE'LL BE BLOWN UP.
IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN BY THE TIME WE GO UP IN THIS
THREE-STORY VILLA, IF BIN LADEN IS THERE, THEY'LL HAVE BODY
GUARDS.
THEY'LL COME AT US AND ATTACK US.
WE MAY GET BIN LADEN BUT WE AREN'T GETTING BACK HOME."
THAT WAS THE ONE THING.
THE SECOND THING IS WHEN OBAMA MADE THE DECISION ON FRIDAY
APRIL 29, IT IS NO MORE THAN A 50-50 PROPOSITION THAT BIN LADEN
IS EVEN THERE.
WELL, THAT WAS -- >> Stephen: THAT WAS 10 YEARS
AGO.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: THAT'S 2011, IN THE SPRING OF 2011.
IT'S 10 YEARS BEFORE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MAKES THE
AGREEMENT WITH THE TALIBAN, AND THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FOLLOWS
UP ON THAT AND PULLS US OUT OF AFGHANISTAN.
WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT OR THE
ADMINISTRATION, BUT HOW-- WHAT WILL DETERMINE THE U.S.
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TALIBAN NOW?
BECAUSE THEY'VE PUT IN PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE ON THE F.B.I.'S
MOST-WANTED LIST.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
ONE OF THE GUYS WHO I THINK IS THE HEAD OF THE SECURITY HAS A
$10 MILLION BOUNTY FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE'S ALL THIS TALK ABOUT --
>> Stephen: DO YOU INVITE HIM TO A STATE DINNER AND JUST LOCK
THE DOOR WHEN HE COMES IN?
>> YOU CERTAINLY DON'T BRENG OUT THE GOOD SILVER.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A GREAT WORKING
RELATIONSHIP, BUT WE KIND OF NEED THEM BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AT
LEAST 100 AMERICANS STILL THERE.
WE'VE GOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AFGHAN ALLIES, THE DRIVERS, THE
TRANSLATORS, THE COOKS WHO STOOD UP FOR US AND NOW THEIR LIVES
ARE IN RISK.
I THINK IT WILL BE A KIND OF "ARE YOU GOING TO COME THROUGH
OR NOT?" I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN
WASHINGTON TRUSTS THEM.
AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ESPECIALLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT
THIS.
BUT IF THEY -- >> Stephen: WE DO HAVE A
COMMON ENEMY.
>> PARDON.
>> Stephen: WE DO HAVE A COMMON ENEMY, WHICH IS ISIS.
THE TALIBAN HATES ISIS.
AND ISIS JUST EXECUTED THAT ATTACK AGAINST THE PEOPLE AT THE
AIRPORT 10, 12 DAYS AGO.
>> RIGHT.
>> Stephen: DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE ANY COOPERATION BETWEEN
THE UNITED STATES AND THE TALIBAN, WHERE WE SAY, "HEY, YOU
HELP US GET THE REST OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU HELP US
KILL ISIS?" HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING LIKE,
THAT OR AM I JUST COOKING UP A PLAN RIGHT NOW?
( LAUGHTER ).
>> I MEAN, THERE'S TALK ABOUT IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND I DON'T THINK-- IF YOU WERE TO ASK SECRETARY OF STATE
BLINKEN IF HE WERE SITTING HERE HE WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHO THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO BE.
THERE IS TALK OF THE KINDER, GENTLER TALIBAN.
WE HAVE FROZEN BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THEIR ASSETS.
WE NEED THEM TO GET THE AMERICANS OUT.
WE CERTAINLY WANT THEM TO HELP US FIGHT TERRORISM.
THEY WOULD LIKE MONEY FROM US.
IN A RATIONAL WORLD, YOU CAN MAKE A DEAL.
THIS IS THE TALIBAN.
>> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
STICK AROUND.
WHEN WE COME BACK, I'M GOING TO ASK CHRIS HOW HE FEELS ABOUT HIS
SHOW AND SHOWS LIKE HIS HAVING ON PEOPLE WHO DENY BIDEN WAS
DULY ELECTED.
HE HAS A GOOD ANSWER.
YOU HAVE A GOOD ANSWER.
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